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 Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:19 pm
ryokomayuka I agree the important thing to do is to lessen the need for abortion not necessarily making it illegal. Absolutely. It is one of my fondest hopes to see the day where abortion is only used rarely to save the lives of pregnant women, because it is no longer needed for anything else. I hope to see a fool-proof, 100% accurate birth control and successful fetal transplant surgery sometime soon. The abortion rate was falling, along with the teen and general pregnancy rate, at the end of the 90s. I think that it is either leveling out, or just falling slower at this point -- but am unsure. I know that good sex education, either from parents or other sources, is important to keep people from getting pregnant unexpectedly to begin with. I'd like to see better Sex Ed in the schools -- with the ability to opt out easily for parents who want to teach their own children about it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:56 am
I have no experience with pregnancy. >.< No one I know has had a pregnancy recently, at least no one close to me. There was my aunt a couple of years ago, but she lives a few hundred miles away and I haven't seen her since she married my uncle about seven years ago. >.< I suppose it's different for everything but I don't think it should be forced on everyone it happens to.
Although I agree with Waters - the reasons women give for abortion should be lessened. Financial support and stigmatisation need to leave, and for that to happen we first need to get rid of this "virginal" society that teaches abstinence only. It's a leftover from the days when women who divorced or were pregnant out of wedlock were shunned, and that needs to stop. I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees on that point.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:39 am
Rinaqa I have no experience with pregnancy. >.< No one I know has had a pregnancy recently, at least no one close to me. There was my aunt a couple of years ago, but she lives a few hundred miles away and I haven't seen her since she married my uncle about seven years ago. >.< I suppose it's different for everything but I don't think it should be forced on everyone it happens to. Although I agree with Waters - the reasons women give for abortion should be lessened. Financial support and stigmatisation need to leave, and for that to happen we first need to get rid of this "virginal" society that teaches abstinence only. It's a leftover from the days when women who divorced or were pregnant out of wedlock were shunned, and that needs to stop. I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees on that point. Yeah especially since the divorce rate is so high anyways and a majority of the US actually isn't married anymore. People need to stop clinging to that. Teens are going to have sex anyways, they always do. (You'd think people would have figured that out back in the late 60s to 70s rolleyes ) So isn't it better to teach our sons to always use condoms and get our daughters on the pill or some other contraception? I guess that's when that whole punishment mentality comes in and it seems like parents go, "Oh, oops, too bad you got preggers. Now you'll learn to not have sex anymore. biggrin " And then there's that desperate attempt to get an abortion so she doesn't have to quit school and get a job to raise a kid. xp If we teach teens to use contraceptives properly that will eliminate a lot of the teen abortion percentage. (Although I don't know how much that is.) I certainly hope they come out with a fool proof 100% perfect contraception though, that would be nice.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:58 am
SterileNeedles Rinaqa I have no experience with pregnancy. >.< No one I know has had a pregnancy recently, at least no one close to me. There was my aunt a couple of years ago, but she lives a few hundred miles away and I haven't seen her since she married my uncle about seven years ago. >.< I suppose it's different for everything but I don't think it should be forced on everyone it happens to. Although I agree with Waters - the reasons women give for abortion should be lessened. Financial support and stigmatisation need to leave, and for that to happen we first need to get rid of this "virginal" society that teaches abstinence only. It's a leftover from the days when women who divorced or were pregnant out of wedlock were shunned, and that needs to stop. I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees on that point. Yeah especially since the divorce rate is so high anyways and a majority of the US actually isn't married anymore. People need to stop clinging to that. Teens are going to have sex anyways, they always do. (You'd think people would have figured that out back in the late 60s to 70s rolleyes ) So isn't it better to teach our sons to always use condoms and get our daughters on the pill or some other contraception? I guess that's when that whole punishment mentality comes in and it seems like parents go, "Oh, oops, too bad you got preggers. Now you'll learn to not have sex anymore. biggrin " And then there's that desperate attempt to get an abortion so she doesn't have to quit school and get a job to raise a kid. xp If we teach teens to use contraceptives properly that will eliminate a lot of the teen abortion percentage. (Although I don't know how much that is.) I certainly hope they come out with a fool proof 100% perfect contraception though, that would be nice. Teens are not always going to have sex some do and some don't. I doubt that they will ever have 100% perfect contraception unless you have your tubes tried or pratice abstance. We probably need better education but I think parents and not the school should be the ones who teach their child about sex.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:10 am
There's another topic that got into a debate about sex ed, too. Basically about how much schools should teach and how much parents should.
Maybe that should be turned into a separate topic?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:51 pm
lymelady There's another topic that got into a debate about sex ed, too. Basically about how much schools should teach and how much parents should. Maybe that should be turned into a separate topic? Probably because this is getting very off topic. I'll leave it up to someone who's had more experience with sex-ed than me though. >> I didn't even go to sex-ed in school and I haven't researched it enough...
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:09 pm
 For me I did have morning sickness, I did have mood swings, I did have all of the things normally hear about. My experience was still amazing and well worth every moment. I actually miss feeling my baby move inside me. I miss knowing I am carrying her with me everywhere I go. It's a very tender feeling.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:57 am
It's all a matter of opinion.
I never want to get pregnant, because that amazing feeling you felt scares me to death.
I don't want to feel something moving around inside of me. I don't want to know something's growing and moving and living inside of me. Even if it's a baby, and my baby. It terrifies me to no end. Just thinking about it makes me want to cry.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:26 am
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:51 pm
I have no idea.
It's a really irrational fear, I know.
But I can't help fearing it.
Like, if you weren't pregnant and you felt something inside of you "kick", you'd be scared shitless, wouldn't you?
Well, that's how I am about any foreign, living thing inside me. Including a fetus.
I'm terrified to death of getting any kind of parasite too.
I take tons of herbal cures for parasites regularly, just in case I somehow get one.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:45 am
Tyshia2 I have no idea.
It's a really irrational fear, I know.
But I can't help fearing it.
Like, if you weren't pregnant and you felt something inside of you "kick", you'd be scared shitless, wouldn't you?
Well, that's how I am about any foreign, living thing inside me. Including a fetus.
I'm terrified to death of getting any kind of parasite too.
I take tons of herbal cures for parasites regularly, just in case I somehow get one. I don't know, it doesn't seem so irrational. I know someone who's scared of carrots. Now that's irrational. If/when I get pregnant I don't think I'd have the same fear or discomfort, but I could understand people who did. It must feel strange, something moving inside you, that you have no control over, that is growing every day and will one day be born. I can see why it's a good feeling too, but also why someone might be . . . creeped out, shall we say?
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:56 am
Tyshia2 I have no idea.
It's a really irrational fear, I know.
But I can't help fearing it.
Like, if you weren't pregnant and you felt something inside of you "kick", you'd be scared shitless, wouldn't you?
Well, that's how I am about any foreign, living thing inside me. Including a fetus.
I'm terrified to death of getting any kind of parasite too.
I take tons of herbal cures for parasites regularly, just in case I somehow get one. but a fetus is kind of meant to be there... not neccesarily meant to be there, but biologically, it's been going on for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years. (A joke, a joke)
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:21 am
divineseraph Tyshia2 I have no idea.
It's a really irrational fear, I know.
But I can't help fearing it.
Like, if you weren't pregnant and you felt something inside of you "kick", you'd be scared shitless, wouldn't you?
Well, that's how I am about any foreign, living thing inside me. Including a fetus.
I'm terrified to death of getting any kind of parasite too.
I take tons of herbal cures for parasites regularly, just in case I somehow get one. but a fetus is kind of meant to be there... not neccesarily meant to be there, but biologically, it's been going on for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years. (A joke, a joke) That's why I feel like it's irrational. But I can't help it.
@ Scribblemouse :: Carrots?
Thanks for understanding. Most people I explain this to just give me a blank stare. Goes right over their heads, and I don't know why. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:46 pm
Could it be possible that you are pro-choice primarily due to your irrational fear?
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:22 pm
divineseraph Could it be possible that you are pro-choice primarily due to your irrational fear? I don't think primarily, because I knew how I felt about abortion before I realized how much pregnancy scared me.
My father explained the issue to me when I was about 11 because I asked a question about something in the paper on abortion. He summed up both sides alright, (pro-choice: it's the woman's right to decide when she has a baby; pro-life: the baby deserves to live) and I liked the pro-choice idea more even then. (Even as a teeny kid, I was super into politics and pretty avidly for individual rights. I blame my dad. 3nodding )
Anyway, I didn't realize I was scared of pregnancy until a little after my first "time of the month" a year or so later, because I realized I could get pregnant then and I started thinking about what it meant.
Yeah, the fear probably makes me more pro-choice than I would probably be otherwise just because I know in that situation and for other women with my same fears in that situation, an unwanted pregnancy isn't just an annoyance or at a bad time. But overall, I don't think that's a major reason why I am.
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