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 Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:34 pm
Catch-22 I've been twitching over the lack of a neutral gender in English for a long time. In Spanish, you've got "usted(es)", which is used in place of he/she. In English, I've seen the abuse of "them" to try to fulifill the same purpose. I was always taught that words like everyone and someone are considered singular nouns, and that singular pronouns must be used when referring to those words. So saying something like Quote: Everyone has their own place should be incorrect. Does anyone here have knowledge of that rule changing, or has the word them/they become our neutral gender by force of habit? It is still incorrect. The populus has grown more tollerable of laziness.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:58 pm
haruki_jitsunin Catch-22 I've been twitching over the lack of a neutral gender in English for a long time. In Spanish, you've got "usted(es)", which is used in place of he/she. In English, I've seen the abuse of "them" to try to fulifill the same purpose. I was always taught that words like everyone and someone are considered singular nouns, and that singular pronouns must be used when referring to those words. So saying something like Quote: Everyone has their own place should be incorrect. Does anyone here have knowledge of that rule changing, or has the word them/they become our neutral gender by force of habit? It is still incorrect. The popul ace has grown more tolerant of laziness. I really should stop doing this, but what's your excuse?
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:57 pm
Oh-mi-kaze haruki_jitsunin Catch-22 I've been twitching over the lack of a neutral gender in English for a long time. In Spanish, you've got "usted(es)", which is used in place of he/she. In English, I've seen the abuse of "them" to try to fulifill the same purpose. I was always taught that words like everyone and someone are considered singular nouns, and that singular pronouns must be used when referring to those words. So saying something like Quote: Everyone has their own place should be incorrect. Does anyone here have knowledge of that rule changing, or has the word them/they become our neutral gender by force of habit? It is still incorrect. The popul ace has grown more tolerant of laziness. I really should stop doing this, but what's your excuse?
I have seen more than three posts where there are quite a few errors. If he continually ******** up his posts, I say you kick him. If by some otherworldly circumstance, he fixes his messed up posts it should bring his chances of staying a little higher, if any. That, however, requires effort and he has shown us so far that he has none of that.
So I vote that you should banninate his a**.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:29 pm
Catch-22 I've been twitching over the lack of a neutral gender in English for a long time. In Spanish, you've got "usted(es)", which is used in place of he/she. In English, I've seen the abuse of "them" to try to fulifill the same purpose.
I thought you were better than to let something that small slip.Catch-22 I was always taught that words like everyone and someone are considered singular nouns[...]
Back on subject:Some site NOTE: Many people find the construction "his or her" wordy, so if it is possible to use a plural noun as your antecedent so that you can use "they" as your pronoun, it may be wise to do so. If you do use a singular noun and the context makes the gender clear, then it is permissible to use just "his" or "her" rather than "his or her."
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:40 pm
Everyone and someone can be thought of as "every one" and "some one." Nobody would say "one has their place." This is the same issue as "none of them have it." "None" is a contraction of "not one," so the correct sentence would be "none of them has it." Everyone, someone, and none are all singular. People are just lazy. sad
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:13 pm
Katsumi~Vampyre So I vote that you should banninate his a**. While I do appreciate the advice, and you're showing some promise, you do remember that "low profile," "prove your worth" reproach I gave you, right? It still applies. And while I know that such travesties besmirch our glorious forum, I first give benefit of doubt before "bannination." Hell, that's one of the reasons why a couple of the more respected bans asked to leave the guild. We were too trigger-happy.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:35 am
Esmoth Everyone and someone can be thought of as "every one" and "some one." Nobody would say "one has their place." This is the same issue as "none of them have it." "None" is a contraction of "not one," so the correct sentence would be "none of them has it." Everyone, someone, and none are all singular. People are just lazy. sad That was usually what I used to help me remember those rules. They're not difficult (in my opinion), so what gives? People are lazy and stupid. Thank you.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:44 am
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:52 pm
Ambiguity sucks. "Used to" (pronounced as yooost too) can mean that at one point, that's was the usage in the past. When you say "yooz'd to," it refers to the method of usage for a thing. ninja ninja ninja
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:00 pm
Catch-22 Ambiguity sucks. "Used to" (pronounced as yooost too) can mean that at one point, that's was the usage in the past. When you say "yooz'd to," it refers to the method of usage for a thing. ninja ninja ninja I'd like to know where that came from. Dictionary.com doesn't have an etymology, and it requires a special entry to have that meaning.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:14 pm
 I'm hoping that the thing is using the second definition, which means that that's how it was used in the past. Sexist pigs. stressed
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:00 am
D!no Quote: Everyone has their own place should be incorrect. It should be everyone has his own place. Or, possibly, everyone has his or her own place. I think that's also acceptable.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:40 am
I don't see why "one" can't be used in place of "their" in that context.
Case:
Everyone is entitled to one's own opinion.
Sure, it's two characters longer than "his" or "her," but it allows for gender ambiguity, and it's still shorter than "his or her," keeping gender equality in mind.
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