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JVCA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:24 pm


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:19 pm


WitchyBoy have you even read the christian bible. It has more of love and freindship than strictness or commandment. Plus according to the bible god came down and shown himself as Jesus. I am not saying these are my belifes but I know more because I came from a christian back ground. And it is true that he is over his head part. Urishima Kazama you have to understan the laws and the power of spells. Or you will end up in $#!T you dont want to know. It takes more than just reading a book and saying a few chants it study study study.
God has shown himself in many ways. A bush, thunder, Jesus. I want to know spells to help others and benefit my own power. I guess you could compare my to Light, the main character of DeathNote.

yes god shown himself to them but what about people today has he shown himself. what they are saying is you can't just learn spells you have to know other things. like what is allowed and what is not. helping people is good but it can back fire on you as well. ohhh sorry if no one agrees with me but this is how i see things.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:53 pm


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:04 pm


[ No one is worth your tears, my precious one... ]


I have read enough to know what I need to say.

1. If you believe that the Christian Bible is true page by page, then no matter what spells you do [be it for the good or for the bad] you will go to "Hell". There is no spell that is of any leeway to that.

2. Do not join Wicca unless you know all you think you should know. It is good to come into our faith, should you choose to, with an open mind and a thist for knowledge. However, we do not suggest that you come in uneducated about the subject. Pick up books about the subject, search up things, learn everything you can. It is highly suggested that you study a year and a day before you decide whether or not the faith is for you. Not everyone does this though and that is fine.

3. Wicca is NOT about personal gain. Wicca is about learning, understanding, accepting, helping others, and doing that which is good. It is also good to gain strength in your wisdom and "power" as a witch, but not for personal gain. If you wish to mess with the "dark arts" and "black magick" then I do not believe you can be considered a Wiccan. An harm it none, do what ye will. The "dark" is simply a color and name to label spells that are meant to curse, hex, harm, or do things that may cause trouble to others. I my opinion there is no color to magick. It's how you use it and the intention you use it with that counts.

4. All Wiccans are Witches, not all Witches are Wiccans. Ponder that.

5.Not all "miracles" are miracles. Sometimes they are things that just are.


6. I respect what you believe, even if I don't believe them. I honestly do not think that you should become a Wiccan if you desire at all to. It would be firmly against your religion. But if you decide to then I suggest you check into Christian Wicca. It is a highly controversial branch of Wicca but it may be something you would fit into. Coming here for questions was wise, but we all believe in different things so the answers you may seek might not be here.


[ If they were, then you wouldn't be crying in the first place... ]

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:12 pm


1. Explain what Wiccan is
2. How do I do "spells" that won't send a Christian to Hell
3. I am pestimistic, does this affect anything. Seeing that I tried a "lonely person" spell, so they wouldn't be lonely, and I could only see an isolated, sobbing person in an empty dark room.
4. Explain more aobut Magick.
5. How do I do this!!!???!!!

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1) Wiccan is someone who practices Wicca. Wicca has various origins but, generally.. Wicca is a Neopagan religion and a religious movement found in various countries throughout the world. It was first popularised in 1954 by a British civil servant named Gerald Gardner after the British Witchcraft Act was repealed. He claimed that the religion, of which he was an initiate, was a modern survival of an old witchcraft religion, which had existed in secret for hundreds of years, originating in the pre-Christian Paganism of Europe. Wiccan generally believe in two "higher entities". The Lord and the Lady. There are various other spirits and in fact you can believe in an entire pantheon, but generally it is the Lord and Lady.

2) Well, first you need to understand that Wicca isn't all about the spells and creapy hoodoo in dark caves. Spells are another form of prayer. It just is a little bit more complicated prayer with steps and tools and fancy rhymes. Now, from what I now of Christianity, you are not suppost to take the Lord's work into your own hands. Please correct me if I'm wrong. So, doing a spell and creating a change for the better using the energies of the world, then that is against the Christian law. And if you go to confession as a Christian and say you practiced Witchcraft, then you will be saved but also saying that Witchcraft is bad. So, you need to figure out which one you believe in.

3) So are you asking that does being a gloomy or lonly person affect your skills? With your spell, you probaby failed because you don't know a lot about Wicca. Being a solitary person doesn't affect your skills. Many, in fact most, witches are solitary witches. But I still don't think I understand the question.

4) Magick... well magick is everywhere. It can be found in any living breathing thing. It is the desired change you make when you do a spell. When you call upon the Lord and Lady for help in a spell. It's the energy that is produced and manipulated by the earth and living things. That's the best I can do right now.

5) Start by reading. Read read read. Read websites, books, articles. Read as much as you can and learn as much as you can. Wicca is very diverse and in fact Wicca may not be the right path. Perhaps a variation like Druid or Shamanism might be your calling. Read anything and everything you can about Wicca & Witchcraft. Read and learn. Knowledge is power.

I hope this helps
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:21 am


Urishima Kazama
dark_angel_32189
Wiccans aren't the only ones who believe in reincarnation. And just because you believe in reincarnation, doesn't mean that you're Wiccan. Wicca is a religion. And just like Christianity, well sorta, it has to be the chosen path by the person. And, unlike Christianity, you can't just pick up one book and say I believe in the God and Goddess and be Wiccan.... at least not in my opinion and in the opinion of many others (so I've heard).

I think in my belief, all religions are truly one. Up until the invention of Aethism, everyone beleived in a god of a sort, a heavan of a sort, and a hell of a sort. Why? Because either everyone is correct in atleast one way, or there is a True Religion that fell and broke into the various religions of today. This would of happened probably shortly after Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden, and once we can reenter the Garded, we will once again be unified in the True Religion.

PS-Don't think about infinity and whatnot. I have been cursed with the burden of thinking about it all, against my will. At Church Camp, a counsleour "healed" me for up to probably the beginning of December. Now I am cursed again.
God "said" after Adam and Eve were kicked out od the garden "that man would never again enter edan" somple as that we're never getting back in there!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:58 pm


Well, according to the bible, any magickal act is considered evil... though jesus had powers himself... but if you want to practice and do not care what the bible says about magick anymore, then we can talk... i would like to add that anything about magick was added by a mere human by the name of king james, and none of it is in the original manuscripts.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:27 pm


TheMessageBehindTheWall
Well, according to the bible, any magickal act is considered evil... though jesus had powers himself... but if you want to practice and do not care what the bible says about magick anymore, then we can talk... i would like to add that anything about magick was added by a mere human by the name of king james, and none of it is in the original manuscripts.

Ugh! I hated him to begin with, but! Even if it is 'bad', Jesus came to save Humanity and any sin can be forgiven. It isn't even in the 10 Commandments, so it is okayish. But, a sin is a sin. But it isn't worshipping Satan, or going on a raping/robbing/murdering spree either.

Violent Rain


The Wiccan One

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:24 pm


Urishima Kazama
baluk15
Okay I think I can help you in this little situation. I was born in a christan family, went to church since childhood. But last year that all changed, when I saw a talismin on a girls neck. I found out what it was and I was interested. At first I was sacred. But I found comfert. But still I was skeptical. I am still skeptical, because I am agnostic. I belive not only in the wiccan gods, but the hindu, and the taoist. But still Witchcraft is nothing the Bible sais it is. The only reason it states that witches will go to hell is because they get there power from the devil. But hell we dont belive in the devil so what the #@#$. rofl . But yes we do belive in reincarnation. And Karma is real. But dont get put off by christianity. Dont.
Plus the bible was malipulated and changed over the years that it is in no way the same as the original text. So yes it was a good thing you joined this guild. We will help you and teach you and celabrate. And may the gods bless you.

Blessed be.

I believe God has made it so the Bible has stayed the same [messages]. I always say to my self "I will sell all to the devil but my soul." This is pretty much to gain power and all and to fool the evil inside me, but it doesn't work. I am still just an Insomniac Weak unpopular kid. But yes, if there is any way that you all could teach me some spells and all that wouldn't prevent me from going to heavan.

I am always going to speak as if (as in my belief) all I say is real, just as I hope you speak as your beliefs are the truth.
my/our(my firend and I) would like to add this note: there are many forms of wicca and many diffrent ways to practice it. I/we are practicing it together and alone and with the easy stuff. if you need more, PM me.
blessed be,
mr cigarette man
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