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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:14 pm
ms.celestial i don't think that it is right... this is because animals may be in pain or suffer due to a human wanting sexual pleasure... it just isn't right. I don't think this has anything to do with sexual pleasure. I think it has to do with the natural urge that some how ended up in humans. I believe there is a reason for it. As during the intercourse the animals do not attack. Sometimes also the animals are the ones on the humans and not humans on the animals. I believe nature has its own way of doing things reguardless what people think because it won't change the flow of life.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:15 pm
Celestial Raven ms.celestial i don't think that it is right... this is because animals may be in pain or suffer due to a human wanting sexual pleasure... it just isn't right. I don't think this has anything to do with sexual pleasure. I think it has to do with the natural urge that some how ended up in humans. I believe there is a reason for it. As during the intercourse the animals do not attack. Sometimes also the animals are the ones on the humans and not humans on the animals. I believe nature has its own way of doing things reguardless what people think because it won't change the flow of life. No. I don't see earthworms getting the "natural urge" to mate with butterflies, or the "natural urge" of chimps to screw pandas. The fact that even chimps don't mate incestually in the wild must suggest something: cross species mating is not a biological program.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:34 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Celestial Raven ms.celestial i don't think that it is right... this is because animals may be in pain or suffer due to a human wanting sexual pleasure... it just isn't right. I don't think this has anything to do with sexual pleasure. I think it has to do with the natural urge that some how ended up in humans. I believe there is a reason for it. As during the intercourse the animals do not attack. Sometimes also the animals are the ones on the humans and not humans on the animals. I believe nature has its own way of doing things reguardless what people think because it won't change the flow of life. No. I don't see earthworms getting the "natural urge" to mate with butterflies, or the "natural urge" of chimps to screw pandas. The fact that even chimps don't mate incestually in the wild must suggest something: cross species mating is not a biological program. Some forms of life are different. You think its just in everything. There are cats who have done it with their own relitives before. The group of cats that I have once had incest, we caught one of them on top of the other. Not only that but we caught two male cats on top of one another before in the same family. I have seen gay dogs before as well. I have also been in a house with a person who his sister had sexual intercourse with their dog and parshally seen it. The dog did nothing he just stood there and let her do it. When that happened you can bet I said it was gross but I didn't down upon them because they did something different. The point in this thread is to show you no matter how much you disagree there is no way you can stop the flow of life. Its eternal, and to those forces out there, there is no right or wrong just simply the balance of things. This thread isn't for proving who is right or wrong but to give you my point of view of life. Because no matter how you disagree you will never control the way of life. So in one way you either accept that and be part of life or don't and just be a stragler. All this isn't my way of doing things, arguing with you isn't my thing its showing you how I see it. You can learn from that if you just listen. I have listened to you but the constant trying to prove me wrong just doesn't attract my attention. You can't say you weren't trying to do that because you keep voicing your opinion when I already know about your opinion. Just stop and think and see what I have said and actually read it as I have read yours. You might find something out of all this.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:41 am
Celestial Raven Some forms of life are different. You think its just in everything. There are cats who have done it with their own relitives before. The group of cats that I have once had incest, we caught one of them on top of the other. Not only that but we caught two male cats on top of one another before in the same family. I have seen gay dogs before as well. I have also been in a house with a person who his sister had sexual intercourse with their dog and parshally seen it. The dog did nothing he just stood there and let her do it. When that happened you can bet I said it was gross but I didn't down upon them because they did something different. The point in this thread is to show you no matter how much you disagree there is no way you can stop the flow of life. Its eternal, and to those forces out there, there is no right or wrong just simply the balance of things. This thread isn't for proving who is right or wrong but to give you my point of view of life. Because no matter how you disagree you will never control the way of life. So in one way you either accept that and be part of life or don't and just be a stragler. All this isn't my way of doing things, arguing with you isn't my thing its showing you how I see it. You can learn from that if you just listen. I have listened to you but the constant trying to prove me wrong just doesn't attract my attention. You can't say you weren't trying to do that because you keep voicing your opinion when I already know about your opinion. Just stop and think and see what I have said and actually read it as I have read yours. You might find something out of all this. Cats aren't advanced as humans. But the fact that even CHIMPS can see the downside to incest means that there are biological FACTS regarding sexuality. And one of them is that some taboos exist due to biology. Cross species breeding is one of them. As it has been noted before, if any offspring do result, they are sterile. How the ******** is this a biological urge? We have a biological urge to create sterile, useless offspring? rolleyes Right. So because you have some gay cats, it's natural for people to ******** animals? NO. Are we cats? NO. We are HUMANS, and even CHIMPS know things about sex. And there's your sympathy for the subject. Because you are FRIENDS with that person. You've also just made my stomach sick, as well. Because, as you said, the dog just stood there. Meaning it was animal abuse as well as perversion. That's not the point at all. The point is the "flow of life" has nothing to do with mental perversion on behalf of humans. The fact that very few animals cross species mate without biological confusion or a very close link between the two (donkies and horses, tigers and lions) suggests there is no "program" within our biology to try and create a new species. Yes, life is eternal. ******** animals is not part of life, it is part of perversion. I can learn that you accept people abusing animals, and I can learn your flawed theory. I do not have to accept it, because it's WRONG. Both in theory and practice. There is no biological evidence for your theory. Yet you insist upon it. How sad of you to keep this argument up in the face of overwhelming evidence. I wish I could say I admire you. But, instead, I can't stop thinking about your friend's sister and how she should be put down like the dog she abused.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:02 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Celestial Raven Some forms of life are different. You think its just in everything. There are cats who have done it with their own relitives before. The group of cats that I have once had incest, we caught one of them on top of the other. Not only that but we caught two male cats on top of one another before in the same family. I have seen gay dogs before as well. I have also been in a house with a person who his sister had sexual intercourse with their dog and parshally seen it. The dog did nothing he just stood there and let her do it. When that happened you can bet I said it was gross but I didn't down upon them because they did something different. The point in this thread is to show you no matter how much you disagree there is no way you can stop the flow of life. Its eternal, and to those forces out there, there is no right or wrong just simply the balance of things. This thread isn't for proving who is right or wrong but to give you my point of view of life. Because no matter how you disagree you will never control the way of life. So in one way you either accept that and be part of life or don't and just be a stragler. All this isn't my way of doing things, arguing with you isn't my thing its showing you how I see it. You can learn from that if you just listen. I have listened to you but the constant trying to prove me wrong just doesn't attract my attention. You can't say you weren't trying to do that because you keep voicing your opinion when I already know about your opinion. Just stop and think and see what I have said and actually read it as I have read yours. You might find something out of all this. Cats aren't advanced as humans. But the fact that even CHIMPS can see the downside to incest means that there are biological FACTS regarding sexuality. And one of them is that some taboos exist due to biology. Cross species breeding is one of them. As it has been noted before, if any offspring do result, they are sterile. How the ******** is this a biological urge? We have a biological urge to create sterile, useless offspring? rolleyes Right. So because you have some gay cats, it's natural for people to ******** animals? NO. Are we cats? NO. We are HUMANS, and even CHIMPS know things about sex. And there's your sympathy for the subject. Because you are FRIENDS with that person. You've also just made my stomach sick, as well. Because, as you said, the dog just stood there. Meaning it was animal abuse as well as perversion. That's not the point at all. The point is the "flow of life" has nothing to do with mental perversion on behalf of humans. The fact that very few animals cross species mate without biological confusion or a very close link between the two (donkies and horses, tigers and lions) suggests there is no "program" within our biology to try and create a new species. Yes, life is eternal. ******** animals is not part of life, it is part of perversion. I can learn that you accept people abusing animals, and I can learn your flawed theory. I do not have to accept it, because it's WRONG. Both in theory and practice. There is no biological evidence for your theory. Yet you insist upon it. How sad of you to keep this argument up in the face of overwhelming evidence. I wish I could say I admire you. But, instead, I can't stop thinking about your friend's sister and how she should be put down like the dog she abused. You do realize that I don't read your long messages because you continue to make it seem that I am in the wrong when I happen to be of the same opinion as yours only I accept the way things are. I don't see it as a good thing just as you don't. I merly see life as life. Yes it is perverted at times but isn't that life? Personally my opinion on life is to simply live it not worry what others maybe doing to break the law of "unnatural" behavior. Just forget everything you think you know for a second and look at the world with new eyes. See things as you have never seen them. Further continuation of trying to argue with me if foolish because I don't listen to those who down upon me like you are doing saying my opinion on life is wrong. However I never did that to you, so if you want to be taken seriously then stop doing it. Other wise I won't continue to read through your full responces.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:06 am
I think that when one has a sexual relationship with an animal that it is their own choice. (a.k.a. No one else should tell them that it's wrong, because that's their choice, not ours...)
Of course, when you think about it, it is kind of strange for a human to be sexually attracted to an animal, but there are such things, no matter how strange, or logical (you can choose) it is...
There's always something that appears to be illogical to the "normal" human eye.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:02 pm
It isn't right for a human to do it with an animal. The animal is a lower class of species and does not have the ability to give consent. It would be like a regular person taking advantage of somebody who was disabled mentally. It would not be right and it would be unethical.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:09 am
hootenanny I think that when one has a sexual relationship with an animal that it is their own choice. (a.k.a. No one else should tell them that it's wrong, because that's their choice, not ours...) Of course, when you think about it, it is kind of strange for a human to be sexually attracted to an animal, but there are such things, no matter how strange, or logical (you can choose) it is... There's always something that appears to be illogical to the "normal" human eye. I totally agree. biggrin
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