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Robin the elusive

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:44 am


*waits to see if Aona has an opinion on this one*
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:41 am


I've sat and pondered over this matchup for a short bit and I've come to one simple conclusion. The Tallgeese would fall against the Strike. At the time that Zech's piloted the Tallgeese, he was less skilled than he was with the Epyon, not to mention that he ceased to be Zechs far before he piloted the Eypon.

I find the Strike a far superior mobile suit than the Tallgeese, no matter the speed. It would be a fun matchup to watch, but the Tallgeese would fail to land a substantial enough attack to do too much damage to the strike.

Once more, I base this matchup little on the pilots and more on the Mobile suits. Aona might have more of an outlook on the character lineup.

XKazumaXD
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Aona

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:01 pm


Heh... I agree on the mobile suit analysis. Both are damn good MS, but Strike is a bit better. Location could also matter, though I'm not sure how the two MS' aerial vs. space capabilities match up.

Pilot wise... wow. This is a toughie. If we take Zechs as he was when he owned the Tallgeese, he's probably slightly better than all of the Gundam pilots - quite possibly the best in the series. If we take him at his peak... well, by then Heero may have surpassed him, but by then Zechs is absolutely amazing, as shown by his performance in Endless Waltz.

Mu, on the other hand, is overshadowed by all of the Coordinators in SEED like Athrun, Rau, and Kira. However, he still posesses highly advanced levels of spatial awareness, as shown by his expertise with the Moebius ZERO. And while the ZERO is a good MA, the fact that he routinely beats MS when outnumbered in such an inferior machine proves that he is also a pilot of immense skill, with spatial awareness as his one probable advantage over Zechs.

Ultimately... this is more machine than pilot, due to similarity in skill level. Given this similarity, I'd also give it to Mu in the Strike.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:57 pm


...
Okay, I need 2 watch the series about 20 more times.
Does anyone know if there are any web sites that show Gundam Wing episodes for free?

LolitaNevermore


XKazumaXD
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:38 pm


LolitaNevermore
...
Okay, I need 2 watch the series about 20 more times.
Does anyone know if there are any web sites that show Gundam Wing episodes for free?


I personaly suggest going out and buying the comlpete Box set of GW (Which I proudly own) and reveiwing the episodes like that. The discs also hold information reguarding each character as you go through the special fetures and such.

As for WATCHING them freely, try Youtube.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:57 am


I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

Robin the elusive


Aona

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:31 pm


Robin the elusive
I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

Oh yeah, he was just a modified clone. Same basic concept, sorry about that.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:02 pm


Robin the elusive
I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

His genetic type is indeed unconfirmed: it's generally assumed that Rau Le Creuset is a Coordinator, though, for a number of good reasons.

NowhereManXP


Robin the elusive

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:35 pm


NowhereManXP
Robin the elusive
I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

His genetic type is indeed unconfirmed: it's generally assumed that Rau Le Creuset is a Coordinator, though, for a number of good reasons.
Considering his father Al De Flagga and Mu La Flagga his son both aren't co-ordinators tend to just show they just have good talents and genetics naturally.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:02 am


Robin the elusive
NowhereManXP
Robin the elusive
I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

His genetic type is indeed unconfirmed: it's generally assumed that Rau Le Creuset is a Coordinator, though, for a number of good reasons.
Considering his father Al De Flagga and Mu La Flagga his son both aren't co-ordinators tend to just show they just have good talents and genetics naturally.

But Mu La Flaga can't pilot a Mobile Suit without a Natural-compatible Mobile Suit Operating System. Rau Le Creuset can. That's one difference. wink

Oh, and just in case, don't try bringing up Rena Imelia. I had that conversation some time ago with Mark Simmons on GOUF, and we came to conclusion that, though she is stated to have excellent hand-eye coordination, nothing indicates that she can use a Mobile Suit without a Natural-compatible OS.

NowhereManXP


Robin the elusive

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:43 am


NowhereManXP
Robin the elusive
NowhereManXP
Robin the elusive
I'm lacking on ideas now, Rau wasn't a co-ordinator Aona xp

His genetic type is indeed unconfirmed: it's generally assumed that Rau Le Creuset is a Coordinator, though, for a number of good reasons.
Considering his father Al De Flagga and Mu La Flagga his son both aren't co-ordinators tend to just show they just have good talents and genetics naturally.

But Mu La Flaga can't pilot a Mobile Suit without a Natural-compatible Mobile Suit Operating System. Rau Le Creuset can. That's one difference. wink

Oh, and just in case, don't try bringing up Rena Imelia. I had that conversation some time ago with Mark Simmons on GOUF, and we came to conclusion that, though she is stated to have excellent hand-eye coordination, nothing indicates that she can use a Mobile Suit without a Natural-compatible OS.
True but both Mu and Rau had spatial awareness and Mu wasn't a co-ordinator so that must've come genetically.
Still one has to wonder IF Rau has to use such a system to operate his suits or perhaps he has been slightly altered though not to the exact same degree as co-ordinators are.

Aona

Oh yeah, he was just a modified clone. Same basic concept, sorry about that.
Aona summed it up best.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:46 am


Hmmm... New matchup. I'm going to post a variably easy one.

Considering on how we've seen both pilot this mobile suit in our dearly beloved Gundam Wing, I thought this might be a fun one.

Treize ( Ground Type Leo ) V. Heero ( Ground Type Leo )

XKazumaXD
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NowhereManXP

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:29 pm


Quote:
Still one has to wonder IF Rau has to use such a system to operate his suits or perhaps he has been slightly altered though not to the exact same degree as co-ordinators are.

We have no idea if all Coordinators are modified to the same extent, or to what extent they're modified in the first place. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, if Rau Le Creuset was genetically modified in any such way that enhanced his natural abilities, he might be considered a Coordinator by default. wink

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Treize ( Ground Type Leo ) V. Heero ( Ground Type Leo )

Some things before I begin speculating: where, when, and with what weapons?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:09 am


Hmm,.. in the Leo Battle between Heero and Treize... .. Okies! Here is the setting.

Terrain = Forrest
Weapons = Basic Leo Rifle
Melee = Beam Saber

o_o.. Basicly, just an everyday, basic leo.. ;D!

XKazumaXD
Crew

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