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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:41 pm


I've noticed a lot of times that techies get frustrated with the actors because when the actors try to do tech, they think it's really easy and they end up screwing things up. Actors get frustrated with techies because they think that techies think they're the only ones that know what's going on behind the scenes. It's kind of a vicious cycle. Nobody really talks about it and it's not really that intense, but yes, it exists.

As for "This set", some of the lyrics:

This set is your set
This set is my set
From the depths of Boxland,*
To the backstage paintroom,
Up in the soundbooth,
To the toolcart caravan,
This set was made for you and me.

That's verse one. I can't seem to find verse 2 or 3 anywhere. Hope this is enjoyed.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:09 pm


sad_loved_girl
I've noticed a lot of times that techies get frustrated with the actors because when the actors try to do tech, they think it's really easy and they end up screwing things up. Actors get frustrated with techies because they think that techies think they're the only ones that know what's going on behind the scenes. It's kind of a vicious cycle. Nobody really talks about it and it's not really that intense, but yes, it exists.

As for "This set", some of the lyrics:

This set is your set
This set is my set
From the depths of Boxland,*
To the backstage paintroom,
Up in the soundbooth,
To the toolcart caravan,
This set was made for you and me.

That's verse one. I can't seem to find verse 2 or 3 anywhere. Hope this is enjoyed.

Haha! That's awesome! Love it! (and so true!!)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:08 am


we ocassionaly but heads but we always have respect for each other. They do as hard a job as anyone else working on a show. I do know some actors however theat hate the techies. I dont get it, personally. They're their to do a job just like you.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:28 pm


There's this one techie at my school and he drives me nuts. Before one of our shows our director told the actors to set their props and my friend set her laundry basket and finger symbols for where she enters at the top of the show.

Well, sometime between that and curtain this techie moved her cymbals back to the prop table. She said when she got to her basket and realized they weren't in there, she thought she'd have to make the dinging noise herself.

Fortunetly she saw them on the prop table and garbbed them before she went on stage.

Other than that, he's done a lot of other stupid stuff and a lot of people don't like him xo;

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:03 am


On a side note, I love commenting in these older dead threads, any ways onto tohe subject at hand. In reality we are one big happy family with cultish exercises. But when it comes time for hel week with cue to cue, at least at my school we begin to realize who the smartest group is. ANd that would be the techies, with exceptions on both sides of course. I understand that actors have a lot to rember lines entrances, and what not. BUt is it too hard ot rember to not talk when you go off stage. Because during a dress rehersal, one of the actors went off stage and his mic was still on because he was entering again in a few moments. WEll he starts talking, and doestn't relize we can all hear him. Also is it hard to rember don't touch the cyke, and don't run inbetween the cyke and the set. because the cyke starts waving, and all of light crew starts cursing. But really the rivalry is just fun and games. every once ina while we will argue whos job is harder who has more stress, and whos job is more dangerous, that really should be a given. but I'm goignt o end my long post now.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:55 pm


I have a great respect for techies

There's no way I could do what they do

Everyone in theater is just as important

If it were just the lead actors and no one else, it would suck

Everyone is needed to make a show good

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:37 am


I've done acting AND tech work, so I know the abuse and hatred that can be emitted from BOTH sides. But I believe that shows can be twice as good if EVERYONE gets along, so I make a point of being friendly and respectful to everyone, regardless if they are on stage or off.


thelovelyLIZ
Well, sometime between that and curtain this techie moved her cymbals back to the prop table. She said when she got to her basket and realized they weren't in there, she thought she'd have to make the dinging noise herself.


Did she let the techs know? Cuz if she did, that's just jerkism in the techie's part, but if she didn't, then it was probably a harmless mistake. Part of his job is to make sure everything is in it's proper place and if he didn't know that she needed it at her entrance then it wasn't really his fault.


EDIT: PS, I just re-read that and I didn't mean to sound like I was doubting your techie know-how... lol I'm just wondering cuz I've seen a lot of techies get blamed and yelled at by actors for moving props back to the prop table cuz they didn't know they were needed in the wings for quick access. blaugh
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:15 pm


OOOOOH, the actor and the techie should be friends
Oh, the actor and the techie should be friends
One that likes to take a bow,
the other likes to tell them how,
but that's no reason why they can't be friends.


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we actually never had any real problems because the actors were the techies and the techies were the actors. The only thing was our tech director asking people ominously if they were trying out for the next show or running sound, but it was all in good fun.

I think the problem is that they both want to be respected and apriciated and most importantly enabled to do what they are here to do.

The techie is building a set with four doors, 500 light cues, and trying to keep actors from killing themselvs on the equipment, and moving a chord so that some stupid person dosn't trip is the least of their worrys.

The actor is trying to remember lines, perform quick costume changes, keep track of props, so they can't understand why someone can't just fix a latch on one of the doors so that it will close properly and not make them look like an idiot.

so bottom line...
try to understand one another.
heart heart I love you both. heart heart

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:25 pm


thelovelyLIZ
There's this one techie at my school and he drives me nuts. Before one of our shows our director told the actors to set their props and my friend set her laundry basket and finger symbols for where she enters at the top of the show.

Well, sometime between that and curtain this techie moved her cymbals back to the prop table. She said when she got to her basket and realized they weren't in there, she thought she'd have to make the dinging noise herself.

Fortunetly she saw them on the prop table and garbbed them before she went on stage.

Other than that, he's done a lot of other stupid stuff and a lot of people don't like him xo;



Yeah. And he liked to watch me change. 'Do you need any help?'

Excuse me? I need you to not gawk as I flit around onstage in practically nothing, thank you.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:36 pm


Generally, our school district is good for actor-techie relations.

In middle school, techies always got the food first. And my mom and I designed the sets all three years I was there.

And in high school, there were so few of us on any given day that we all did everything. I teched both competition One-Acts, designing lights on a thirty-year-old light board. (And won an award, thank ye very muchly)

But in senior high, there's not a whole lot of opprotunity for a person to do both. I love lights, but thelovelyLIZ knows the board better, so I'll basically never get a chance with it (mostly because the technology actually isn't older than me for once. In middle school, all we had was breakers to flip for the lights. I am not even joking.)


My mom likes to say: 'Without techies, all us actors would be naked in the dark on an empty stage with nothing to say and no one to tell us how to do it."


But really, the only way to get anywhere in the real theatre world (i.e. making a living without going straight on Broadway [sorry kids, it's not going to happen].) is to be willing and able to do both.

And everyone needs to listen to everybody else. Director says set props. Actors set props. It is not ASM's job to set props. ASM moves props. Heads roll. If a techie tells an actor to do something, it's probably for their own good. But techies need to remember that a good actor will know what they're doing.

That's why I was so angry when obnoxious techie moved my finger cymbals in Metamorphoses. It wasn't his place to do so. Then he had the gall to tell me that I don't know his responsibilities better than him even though I've had five times as much experience backstage.



But generally, I've never had a problem distinctly as an actor with a techie. There are just people that I don't like. It's not discrimination.

And I'll stop before I go on another rant.

Denoument


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:37 pm


Wow, you guys, I talk too much. I'm so sorry.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:12 pm


I wish so much that I could do tech

But I have no experience, since good theater companies are hard to come by and my middle school had NOTHING

And I love performing too much!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:49 pm


I've usually had problems with actors when I'm acting or porblems with techies while I'm teching.

Yeah, there've been a few people who got on my nerves but... no one likes them.

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But in senior high, there's not a whole lot of opprotunity for a person to do both. I love lights, but thelovelyLIZ knows the board better, so I'll basically never get a chance with it (mostly because the technology actually isn't older than me for once. In middle school, all we had was breakers to flip for the lights. I am not even joking.)


Hooray newer technology, right? I'll teach you the light board if I get a chance this year =D

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That's why I was so angry when obnoxious techie moved my finger cymbals in Metamorphoses. It wasn't his place to do so. Then he had the gall to tell me that I don't know his responsibilities better than him even though I've had five times as much experience backstage.


Exhibit A of someone no one liked.... hahaha.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:49 am


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I appreciate techies a lot. I actually plan to work as a techie once I started doing more shows in school. However, when I was doing Fiddler on the Roof (Junior Edition) some of the techies were very rude. One of the problem techies was very hyper, didn't do his jobs and during rehearsals would scream at us if we were trying to tell him to do his jobs- or, god forbid- doing them for him. We got in trouble because he did everything except what he was supposed to do.

That's the only conflict with a techie as an actor that I ever had.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:29 am


Even in more professional theatre companies I've seen it. Actors, and Musicians and stuff, sending even first ASM's to fetch them water and food which I might add is not covered under the contracts at all!

It bothers me when actors act stupid. For instance, when they stand in front of shin busters with lights on them like they think they're transparent or something and the light will shine through them onto the stage. Dancers that use booms in the wings as warm up bars. Actors who are talking with their mics still on, even after two run throughs with sound. Performers who move set pieces off of their spike marks once the technical crew has placed them on stage during live performances.

Actors are a dime a dozen. Don't believe me? Just take a trip to any restaurant in New York City sometime. Technical Crews, Design Staff, Stage Managemers, are a dying breed and can be extremely difficult to replace especially once the production is in full swing.

Sorry I just had to get that out of my system. Most of the actors I've worked with are lovely people who are respectful and intelligent. I just don't appreciate being made to do slave labor. That is not what I signed on for. When I've asked an actor forty some odd times to do something which is generally for their own health, safety, or the overall quality of the performance, I appreciate having it done. Is that so much to ask?
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