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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:26 pm
IncandescentShadowRose Someone had the interesting opinion that they don't want equality, they want privileges. (I don't necessarily agree with that) kill the Killed;; save the Saved;;
Agreed! I don't want to just get privileges, I want the rights of a full citizen. Well, I am citizen, (excluding the fact I'm a minor), But I don't want to grow up and know I can't get married to the one I love just because I'm not like everybody else!
three in Line;; took all Nine;;
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:25 pm
Yes, Humans are humans and denying them rights such as marriage is as bad as racisim was not 50 years ago.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:40 pm
I think it was some woman on an episode of "Wife Swap" that said being born gay is a birth defect.
Since the poll in this thread already shows 100% of us believe gay marriage should be legalized, I have to say, I like you all. whee Such logical and awesome people in this guild. 3nodding
But back to the issue. It really doesn't matter how logical it is, there's going to be someone who is against gay marriage for a long, long time. If it's just one person then the debate is still going to continue.
And as much as I try to change people's minds about gay marriage (the one's who think it shouldn't be legalized) they're too stubborn and close-minded to let it affect their opinion about it.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:22 am
The_Wicked_Man As much as the gay marriage debate is a civil rights issue, there is a lot more to the entire debate. Every single time I hear someone (politician, talking head pundit on a news program, or my father) defend the ban on gay marriage, they always mention that this new bill is necessary to preserve the sanctity (holiness) of marriage and how homosexual unions are not recognized in the eyes of God. Now, this is where things get sketchy because there are pleanty of heterosexual atheist, hindu, buddhist, muslim, jewish, etc. couples which are legally married but not in the eyes of the christian God (because they do not worship/belive in Him). The way I see it, if the government succeeds at preventing homosexuals from marrying just because the concept goes against their religion, what is to stop them from deciding that all non-Christians cannot get married? And from there, what is to stop them from discarding the US Constitution for the Bible? And just to be fair, let me just say that I have no problem with a devout Christian believing that his or her personal marriage (or future marriage) carries spiritual value. If you believe that God plays a a significant role in your relationship, that is wonderful, and I'm not going to try to change your mind. However, when a person shows a strong desire to make his or her religious beliefs common law and ultimately force an entire society to practice and live by a single religion (to any degree), that is crossing the line. Not to make bad analogies or anything but, if you will, think of theology as the roulette table at Las Vegas, and at some point during the course of every man and woman's life, he or she places all of his or her chips on the religion which that person believes is the one which leads to eternal salvation. Now, there are many, many religions to choose from, just like the red and black squares on the casino table and corresponding wheel, and all of them have one thing in common: Nobody can be absolutely, positively certain which religion is the correct one (the one which leads to salvation). But everyone takes an educated guess at some point and decides which creed they feel is the right one to follow. "Feel" is the most important word in that last sentence. Of all the talk about religion, nobody can actually vouch for God's or Jesus' existance or prove that there is indeed a Heaven, and at the same time, no one can prove that there is no God, Jesus, or Heaven; people only have feelings about the existance or non-existance of a guiding spiritual force and a spiritual kingdom. And because nobody can really claim that their religious belief is more than a feeling, a government has no authority to govern a society on the basis of religion because they may not even be practicing the right religion! All people need to come to their own, personal decision concerning spirituality; after all, if a government forces everyone to bet on red at the "theologian roulette table" (and that basically is what they're trying to do with the ban on gay marriage), and the little ball lands on black, then that means hundreds of millions of people are instantly sentenced to eternal damnation. they are not that simpleminded. you are just really mad or something. religon never damns people. [for God--bible believers] it says that it is wrong to be gay, but it never damns you. having gay feelings is not necessarily a sin. sodomy is; and when you're gay- you usually sodomize, lust and sodomy is related to homosexuality. cause -_- sticks don't go with other sticks. *shudders* <-- don't even think about highlighting that if you are under 16!!!! now christian peeps for oppose homosexuality because it is bound to lead to lust and sodomy, which by the way is also commited even if you fantasize of it..
btww i don't hate gay people~ i just like disagreeing. heart gays ^^
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:39 am
mexigirl5000 Yes you are right the world is overpopulated,
whaaa? it's not overcrowded... if it was; why are parts all over the wolrd uninhabited? sure.. some of them are uninhabitable. but a lot of them are. people choose to be in places where there are other people because the more the merrier heart there is no way we are full. nu-uh.
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:28 pm
clipclop mexigirl5000 Yes you are right the world is overpopulated,
whaaa? it's not overcrowded... if it was; why are parts all over the wolrd uninhabited? sure.. some of them are uninhabitable. but a lot of them are. people choose to be in places where there are other people because the more the merrier heart there is no way we are full. nu-uh. Have you not seen that Nickelback music video? People in other countries are starving because there's too many people and not enough food. I'd say that's over population. neutral
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:32 pm
If people are not forced to believe in one religion or another the churches of the U.S. should not be able to decide.
I fully support it. It is not a choice but a gene variation that makes one attracted to the same sex and, even if it were banned, we could not stop gays from being together.
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