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There aren't two different creation stories in the Bible, they're just two accounts of the same event. The first one is a brief telling, "then this happened, this happened, this happened, and this happened." The second is an elaboration on the first. "This happened in this amount of detail, and then this happened in this amount of detail."

I believe that the entire Bible is true, that everything happened in one way or another (whether literally or figuratively).

That makes no sense. He is outside of time. He outside of the universe. You can't say where did he come from, he was always there. You can't apply human impossibilities to God, he is not human. You can't limit him to are understanding because we are dumb compared to him. We can have a debate about this over pm's if you want, this isn't really what the thread is about.

Also, there is no second creation in the Bible.

i think a lotta people misunderstand that the bible is not one book.. its many. the bible is full of different writings and letters, passages, verses, and stories. To call it one book is ridiculous. the writins span thousands of years from before Jesus's birth to after. saying christians depend on one book is silly...

i love God. i love the bible. i try and read it everyday. it gives me strength and encouragement to be the person Jesus wanted all of us to be.

have u ever seen the wind? u've seen what it can do... you can see it in motion. but have u ever actually seen it? no

have you ever seen a sound wave? no.

to quote someone earlier... have u ever seen an atom? no.

we know all these things exist... we can see there work we can see there results. but do we actually ever see them? no

just like all of these... i know God is there. i dont need to see him to see what he does for me... for everyone. i believe with my whole heart that Jesus was and is real today.

How do we know that something can't come from nothing?

The differance between God and, say, wind is that we can directly see the affect of wind on things. God is most certainly not having as a direct affect on our senses. Also, we cannot see it, but we can feel it and see things moving because of it. It also possible to scientifically measure wind. god conforms to none of these. God is not something you can see, as are all of the things you stated above, but God is not something you can feel with your fingers or hear with your ears. God exists in your head. He is in your mind, proving his fake existance to himself.

Jesus, on the other hand, is not purely in your imagination. He was a clearly documented person of history, with... magical powers? I refuse to believe a book (or many books, it doesn't matter right now) with minimal historical backing is completely true. Jesus was a prophet and philosopher, nothing more. Other than of course a nice guy with fascinating ideas.

Please, do tell. 3nodding


Take Biology 101 before you try to take on Evolution, buddy. You obviously have yet to learn about these things called "amino acids".


Prove it. That's not even a number, so you'll have a tough time with this one. wink


Oh, so you DO know how to copy/paste the words "amino acids" out of a website. Good job!

Amino Acid groups have a single Nitrogen atom for every 5+ hydrogens, 2+ carbons, and 2+ oxygens, and God knows what else. See those "+" signs? These acids can get pretty big. Please, do explain to me how this constitutes as "highly nitrogenous".


Darwin's tree of life does not apply to modern biology.


So the man who created the term "infinity" was also God, no?

Dude, have you ever even read the Old Testament? There's plenty of killing and adultery in there.


By that logic that the oldest is the best, you should be Zoroastrian, or at least Jewish.

Eh...The Big Bang is sort of complicated. The honest answer is that we really don't know what there was before the Big Bang.

However, the widely accepted...I think it's still a hypothesis since it could never be tested...Is that the universe was at one point reduced to a singularity (It took up no space), but the Big Bang caused it to expand and take up a lot of space.

So really, matter and energy were never "created", they simply acquired volume. At least according to that particular hypothesis.

Stephen Hawking proposed a different idea involving "bubble universes", but I honestly do not know enough to be able to truly grasp the concept.