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 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:22 pm
Not really, you'll naturally be inclined to learn and use techniques that use what you allready know. I do TKD so I have good leg control, this helped me learn arm bars from the bottom before I could learn key locks. Depending on your style you'll naturally lean towards certain things.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:16 am
coolness, duce. thanks for the insight.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:25 pm
DarklingGlory Nephilim Blade Its basically anywhere from a light to heavy side kick to the side or back of the knee joint which causes it to collapes depending on balance or stance..... A heavy blow in this manner is often times devasting... Ouch, I take it its particularly effective on the standing leg if they r trying to kick you? Especially so...
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:03 am
One technique I learnt in kungfu that I particularly like is when someone throws a turning/roundhouse kick at you, block it with the opposite legs shin (ie if they kick with their right leg you block with your right shin) then drop the same foot into their standing knee. Snap...
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:05 pm
DarklingGlory One technique I learnt in kungfu that I particularly like is when someone throws a turning/roundhouse kick at you, block it with the opposite legs shin (ie if they kick with their right leg you block with your right shin) then drop the same foot into their standing knee. Snap... that sounds very similar to the leg blocks I employ in kickboxing. it's taken directly from Muay Thai but we use it against all circular kicks that are stomach high or lower.. two things of note. 1. after training with these leg blocks for a while, the nevers in your shins start to deaden. meaning the longer you use these blocks, the harder a hit you can take without hurting/bruising. 2. here's how we're taught it. say someone throws a low round kick with their left leg. you'd raise your left leg and meet the round kick with your left shin at a 45 degree angle. plus, after you become proficient with this type of block, you're encouraged to thrust your hip out and meet the incoming kick instead of just blocking it. that way it becomes a destruction instead of a plain block. I actually saw a video once of the kicking guy's shin bone literally breaking in half because of this technique..and I'm not exaggerating one bit.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:58 am
Yups I knew shin blocking was a kickboxing characteristic, I really like the additional side kick to the standing leg after, it flows really nicely. You know when you try a technique and it just feels right? Thats what I get with this one.
I've seen the video you're talking about, its the one where the guy swings his broken leg back and tries to stand on it but it just flops in half? Ouch...
We aren't taught to block with our shins much in TKD but I use it all the time for circular kicks below a certain level, the number of times I've crunched thumbs and things trying to use my arms, and it leaves your head well open, its far too easy for them to dummy low then kick you in the face (I know I like to do that, and when someone drops their hands its like christmas...)
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:01 am
xd I know exactly whatcha mean. you see them drop their guard and it's headhunting time. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:38 am
Exactly. Quite a few people in TKD like to use a guard where they keep the rear hand up to cover the head and the front hand down to cover against kicks. I really dont like this guard, I used to till I went to comp and got smacked in the face so many times it was unfunny. I much prefer to keep both hands up and block lower kicks with my shins, I also like to give it a bit of a kali/escrima twist by either kneeing the attacking leg or dropping my elbow into it, not strictly allowed in TKD sparring but a damn effective method of deadening their legs xd
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:03 am
my instructor says dat hopping while sparring will enable u 2 react faster and confuse da opponent. it rele has worked...4 others
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:53 am
it also lets people get your timing really easilly... we're told to refrain from bouncing, or if you do only so you can suddenly change rhythm to catch your opponent out
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:42 pm
DarklingGlory Exactly. Quite a few people in TKD like to use a guard where they keep the rear hand up to cover the head and the front hand down to cover against kicks. I really dont like this guard, I used to till I went to comp and got smacked in the face so many times it was unfunny. I much prefer to keep both hands up and block lower kicks with my shins, I also like to give it a bit of a kali/escrima twist by either kneeing the attacking leg or dropping my elbow into it, not strictly allowed in TKD sparring but a damn effective method of deadening their legs xd For me its mostly shins and elbows for blocking the low kicks. Unless I can spot a full force kick comming in, at which point its Interception and ground rape time....
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:09 am
Lol, whatever turns you on... wink
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:18 am
DarklingGlory it also lets people get your timing really easilly... we're told to refrain from bouncing, or if you do only so you can suddenly change rhythm to catch your opponent out we usually don't do any sort of bouncing. as most of our punch/kick power comes from the torque of twisting the body, we usually plant our feet so we can explode into the kicks. we are taught to bounce our front leg for two reasons. the first being quicker reaction to incoming low kicks. the second is the screw up the opponent's sense of timing. when your body is moving at one speed, but your front leg is bouncing at double time, your opponent is like "wtf?!"
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:22 am
Mythic DarklingGlory it also lets people get your timing really easilly... we're told to refrain from bouncing, or if you do only so you can suddenly change rhythm to catch your opponent out we usually don't do any sort of bouncing. as most of our punch/kick power comes from the torque of twisting the body, we usually plant our feet so we can explode into the kicks. we are taught to bounce our front leg for two reasons. the first being quicker reaction to incoming low kicks. the second is the screw up the opponent's sense of timing. when your body is moving at one speed, but your front leg is bouncing at double time, your opponent is like "wtf?!" Its very easy in TKD to fall into bouncing because it makes kicking, especially jump kicking a lot easier but as I posted before the timing makes you very vulnerable. The basic fighting stance in kick boxing/muai thai is very rear orientated isn't it? To a certain extent so is TKD, however there are schools/clubs (like mine) that prefer a 50/50 or even forward biased stance. The reasoning behind this is that all you have to do to move forward or sideways (we're taught not to move backwards too much) is pick up your foot. To move in a rear foot biased stance you have to pick up your foot then step, but if your weight is further forward as soon as you pick the foot up you're already moving, if you see what I mean. But it does make front leg kicks a fraction slower
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:09 am
you're right in that kickboxing/muay thai has an emphasis on the rear leg. the weight distribution is closer to 65% rear 35% forward I'd think. chances are, this has something to do with the different mindset between muay thai and TKD. in muay thai, when you throw a round kick, you commit fully to the kick. you spin totally around if you whiff it. TKD, I'd always thought was more about control and landing multiple kicks in succession.
one thing though, we've been learning a couple different stepping techniques so it's not like my school's kickboxers are only good at moving forward. I can sidestep with my sliding footwork just as fast as someone can hop to the side.
and my push step can cover forward distance just about as fast as lunging forward.
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