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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:36 pm
Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter MomoSakouyo-chan Atomisk prime Blue Jewel Atomisk prime I find it has alot to do with the segment of the post about how people discredit things they don't belive. Look dude, I don't have a problem with what you beleive in, in fact, I say all the power to you. However, I do find you a complete idiot with an infuriority complex who is trying to over compensate with not having a life by claiming he alone has special knowledge. Usually, people like this get a huge list of non-english/non-american insults from me so as to entertain myself and others, but you just get a cookie, and try again never. ~hands you a fortune cookie with a fortune reading "We give antidote. $3.95"~ And you being able to detemine this when I cannot makes you.....more inteligent? Or it seems to me that you just feel threatened so you resort to name calling. I am not here to start any arguements. But when I was recomended to this guild, I had the impression that it would be full of open minded people. But it's full of people who are seperate from the comunity. Who belive what they belive in and mabe something on the side. But when something is handed to them that mabe contradicts what they belive, they discredit it's source. But back to the point, you call me an idiot for thinking that i'm above most people in terms of comprehension. But to be honest with you, i'm telling the truth (in my oun opinion.) But mabe thats to hard for your mind to comprehend? That someone out there is more observent, and more knowledgeable then you? Or just on a higher plain of thinking. And what if I did hold this "specail knowledge"? Would you be willing to learn from it? Or would you discredit it because the person who told you, you did not understand. Therefore you hate him. But you see, calling me dumb, or an idiot because you can't understand me is just like going to a city council meeting in the middle of parlomentry procedure and calling the chairman an idiot because you can't understand what he is saying. There for in my opinion, you are ignorent. whoa. eek Hold up there. I seriously think everyone just needs to take a breath, and get off the defensive. ... I'm not gonna point fingers or call out names. But I think everyone (including myself) could do with being a little more open minded Example: Someone thinks that they have a higher level of comprehension, or a certain power, or a special ability. So they say so. Even if you think that's total Bull Sh*t, be openminded. Think on it, look it up. I you still think it's bull sh*t, don't say "That's total Bull Sh*t". try "I don't really believe that, because: ". Then the other peoples think about that, and do their polite replies. It makes things a little less "ZOMGOSH jump down each others throats kill people with other opinions" type of thing. biggrin Agreed, this is getting borderline flaming. And don't think I havent been doing my job, I've been watching this thread, and didn't feel the need to step in yet. Read some of Dras' posts, there you have a good role model. Constructive critisism is much more accepted than demeaning critizism. As well, if your ideas are attacked and degraded, please don't retaliate with more arguing. ignore it, refute it in a calm and logical manner, or if you feel the need, contact a moderator. Remember, I can hit all of you with the banhammer... Don't worry, I'll use the flat side, so you won't be banned... you'll just feel the iron sting of shame. <3Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:38 pm
DrasBrisingr Sorry, Joshua, but I'm hardly a role model. I just prefer intelligent conversation to screaming matches (for the most part). But I do agree that this has gotten a bit out-of-hand. Yes, we all do need to be open-minded. But I think that definition has gotten a bit clouded. It is simply being unprejudiced, or having pre-formed opinions of things (ususally based on falsified information). And while you may have a pre-formed opinion of something, it dosen't mean that it can't change. People don't often change. So the same people that are screaming at each other right now will always be screaming to defend themselves. Opinions are easier to change than people, though. I didn't mean to attack the credibility of anyone. Honestly, and you can cite this in my post, all I said was that I found that instance to be "hardly believable." It was my opinion. I'm sorry I'm opinionated, but it's just the way I am. And damn, people, before you go off screaming about how other people needed to be open-minded, there's plenty of blame to go around. Yes, I mean, you. You could be a bit respectful of people who don't believe in everything you do. It's the classic religion vs. atheism argument again. While the atheist should respect the religious, the religious should also respect the athiest. So, in conclusion, everyone shut the ******** up, take a deep breath, and discuss these things with a bit of civility. I hope to god that you don't mean me by "You" And also, I guss it was my mistake to talk to two different people in one post without clarifying it. WHen I said that poeple should not discredit what they don't belive, I did not mean you. Also, I have givin respect, alot. I did not asume anything of my oponents until twords the end of the arguement. Unlike you, who assumes that I am religious. I AM atheist. Assume makes and "a**" out of "u" and "me".
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:41 pm
Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter MomoSakouyo-chan Atomisk prime And you being able to detemine this when I cannot makes you.....more inteligent? Or it seems to me that you just feel threatened so you resort to name calling. I am not here to start any arguements. But when I was recomended to this guild, I had the impression that it would be full of open minded people. But it's full of people who are seperate from the comunity. Who belive what they belive in and mabe something on the side. But when something is handed to them that mabe contradicts what they belive, they discredit it's source. But back to the point, you call me an idiot for thinking that i'm above most people in terms of comprehension. But to be honest with you, i'm telling the truth (in my oun opinion.) But mabe thats to hard for your mind to comprehend? That someone out there is more observent, and more knowledgeable then you? Or just on a higher plain of thinking. And what if I did hold this "specail knowledge"? Would you be willing to learn from it? Or would you discredit it because the person who told you, you did not understand. Therefore you hate him. But you see, calling me dumb, or an idiot because you can't understand me is just like going to a city council meeting in the middle of parlomentry procedure and calling the chairman an idiot because you can't understand what he is saying. There for in my opinion, you are ignorent. whoa. eek Hold up there. I seriously think everyone just needs to take a breath, and get off the defensive. ... I'm not gonna point fingers or call out names. But I think everyone (including myself) could do with being a little more open minded Example: Someone thinks that they have a higher level of comprehension, or a certain power, or a special ability. So they say so. Even if you think that's total Bull Sh*t, be openminded. Think on it, look it up. I you still think it's bull sh*t, don't say "That's total Bull Sh*t". try "I don't really believe that, because: ". Then the other peoples think about that, and do their polite replies. It makes things a little less "ZOMGOSH jump down each others throats kill people with other opinions" type of thing. biggrin Agreed, this is getting borderline flaming. And don't think I havent been doing my job, I've been watching this thread, and didn't feel the need to step in yet. Read some of Dras' posts, there you have a good role model. Constructive critisism is much more accepted than demeaning critizism. As well, if your ideas are attacked and degraded, please don't retaliate with more arguing. ignore it, refute it in a calm and logical manner, or if you feel the need, contact a moderator. Remember, I can hit all of you with the banhammer... Don't worry, I'll use the flat side, so you won't be banned... you'll just feel the iron sting of shame. <3Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way.Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:45 pm
Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter MomoSakouyo-chan Atomisk prime And you being able to detemine this when I cannot makes you.....more inteligent? Or it seems to me that you just feel threatened so you resort to name calling. I am not here to start any arguements. But when I was recomended to this guild, I had the impression that it would be full of open minded people. But it's full of people who are seperate from the comunity. Who belive what they belive in and mabe something on the side. But when something is handed to them that mabe contradicts what they belive, they discredit it's source. But back to the point, you call me an idiot for thinking that i'm above most people in terms of comprehension. But to be honest with you, i'm telling the truth (in my oun opinion.) But mabe thats to hard for your mind to comprehend? That someone out there is more observent, and more knowledgeable then you? Or just on a higher plain of thinking. And what if I did hold this "specail knowledge"? Would you be willing to learn from it? Or would you discredit it because the person who told you, you did not understand. Therefore you hate him. But you see, calling me dumb, or an idiot because you can't understand me is just like going to a city council meeting in the middle of parlomentry procedure and calling the chairman an idiot because you can't understand what he is saying. There for in my opinion, you are ignorent. whoa. eek Hold up there. I seriously think everyone just needs to take a breath, and get off the defensive. ... I'm not gonna point fingers or call out names. But I think everyone (including myself) could do with being a little more open minded Example: Someone thinks that they have a higher level of comprehension, or a certain power, or a special ability. So they say so. Even if you think that's total Bull Sh*t, be openminded. Think on it, look it up. I you still think it's bull sh*t, don't say "That's total Bull Sh*t". try "I don't really believe that, because: ". Then the other peoples think about that, and do their polite replies. It makes things a little less "ZOMGOSH jump down each others throats kill people with other opinions" type of thing. biggrin Agreed, this is getting borderline flaming. And don't think I havent been doing my job, I've been watching this thread, and didn't feel the need to step in yet. Read some of Dras' posts, there you have a good role model. Constructive critisism is much more accepted than demeaning critizism. As well, if your ideas are attacked and degraded, please don't retaliate with more arguing. ignore it, refute it in a calm and logical manner, or if you feel the need, contact a moderator. Remember, I can hit all of you with the banhammer... Don't worry, I'll use the flat side, so you won't be banned... you'll just feel the iron sting of shame. <3Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way.Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it. Don't...? Why on Earth would you tell me not to learn something?
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:49 pm
Atomisk prime DrasBrisingr Sorry, Joshua, but I'm hardly a role model. I just prefer intelligent conversation to screaming matches (for the most part). But I do agree that this has gotten a bit out-of-hand. Yes, we all do need to be open-minded. But I think that definition has gotten a bit clouded. It is simply being unprejudiced, or having pre-formed opinions of things (ususally based on falsified information). And while you may have a pre-formed opinion of something, it dosen't mean that it can't change. People don't often change. So the same people that are screaming at each other right now will always be screaming to defend themselves. Opinions are easier to change than people, though. I didn't mean to attack the credibility of anyone. Honestly, and you can cite this in my post, all I said was that I found that instance to be "hardly believable." It was my opinion. I'm sorry I'm opinionated, but it's just the way I am. And damn, people, before you go off screaming about how other people needed to be open-minded, there's plenty of blame to go around. Yes, I mean, you. You could be a bit respectful of people who don't believe in everything you do. It's the classic religion vs. atheism argument again. While the atheist should respect the religious, the religious should also respect the athiest. So, in conclusion, everyone shut the ******** up, take a deep breath, and discuss these things with a bit of civility. I hope to god that you don't mean me by "You" And also, I guss it was my mistake to talk to two different people in one post without clarifying it. WHen I said that poeple should not discredit what they don't belive, I did not mean you. Also, I have givin respect, alot. I did not asume anything of my oponents until twords the end of the arguement. Unlike you, who assumes that I am religious. I AM atheist. Assume makes and "a**" out of "u" and "me". No, I didn't mean you. I meant it as a collective pronoun. The whole group. But honestly, you didn't seem to be respecting my beliefs much. Or at least me as a fellow human being. Also, you said before that I was trying to discredit the "boy from Mars" thing. And by the way, the whole "atheism vs. religion" thing was a ******** analogy. I wasn't calling you an atheist nor a religious person. I'm sorry you assumed I was talking about you specifically. And that whole "it makes an 'a**' of..." really pisses me off. It's not witty, it's not clever, it's retarded. And no, for clarification, I'm not calling you retarded, damnit.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:52 pm
Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Agreed, this is getting borderline flaming. And don't think I havent been doing my job, I've been watching this thread, and didn't feel the need to step in yet. Read some of Dras' posts, there you have a good role model. Constructive critisism is much more accepted than demeaning critizism. As well, if your ideas are attacked and degraded, please don't retaliate with more arguing. ignore it, refute it in a calm and logical manner, or if you feel the need, contact a moderator. Remember, I can hit all of you with the banhammer... Don't worry, I'll use the flat side, so you won't be banned... you'll just feel the iron sting of shame. <3 Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way.Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it. Don't...? Why on Earth would you tell me not to learn something?Go somewhere else. It's just that some of the things that woman says.....it's kinda crazy.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:57 pm
DrasBrisingr Atomisk prime DrasBrisingr Sorry, Joshua, but I'm hardly a role model. I just prefer intelligent conversation to screaming matches (for the most part). But I do agree that this has gotten a bit out-of-hand. Yes, we all do need to be open-minded. But I think that definition has gotten a bit clouded. It is simply being unprejudiced, or having pre-formed opinions of things (ususally based on falsified information). And while you may have a pre-formed opinion of something, it dosen't mean that it can't change. People don't often change. So the same people that are screaming at each other right now will always be screaming to defend themselves. Opinions are easier to change than people, though. I didn't mean to attack the credibility of anyone. Honestly, and you can cite this in my post, all I said was that I found that instance to be "hardly believable." It was my opinion. I'm sorry I'm opinionated, but it's just the way I am. And damn, people, before you go off screaming about how other people needed to be open-minded, there's plenty of blame to go around. Yes, I mean, you. You could be a bit respectful of people who don't believe in everything you do. It's the classic religion vs. atheism argument again. While the atheist should respect the religious, the religious should also respect the athiest. So, in conclusion, everyone shut the ******** up, take a deep breath, and discuss these things with a bit of civility. I hope to god that you don't mean me by "You" And also, I guss it was my mistake to talk to two different people in one post without clarifying it. WHen I said that poeple should not discredit what they don't belive, I did not mean you. Also, I have givin respect, alot. I did not asume anything of my oponents until twords the end of the arguement. Unlike you, who assumes that I am religious. I AM atheist. Assume makes and "a**" out of "u" and "me". No, I didn't mean you. I meant it as a collective pronoun. The whole group. But honestly, you didn't seem to be respecting my beliefs much. Or at least me as a fellow human being. Also, you said before that I was trying to discredit the "boy from Mars" thing. And by the way, the whole "atheism vs. religion" thing was a ******** analogy. I wasn't calling you an atheist nor a religious person. I'm sorry you assumed I was talking about you specifically. And that whole "it makes an 'a**' of..." really pisses me off. It's not witty, it's not clever, it's retarded. And no, for clarification, I'm not calling you retarded, damnit. Aw, you beat me to it. Atomisk, this is not ok. Dras was making a point on how some things should be rejected on their merits, not everything accepted in a sugar-coated, Teletubby world. Atomisk prime I hope to god that you don't mean me by "You"
And this is totally not ok. No veiled threats, not against those I respect and admire, and not when I am in a bad mood. Take a break, and come back and post with a new perspective. But you won't do anything else like this.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:00 pm
Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Agreed, this is getting borderline flaming. And don't think I havent been doing my job, I've been watching this thread, and didn't feel the need to step in yet. Read some of Dras' posts, there you have a good role model. Constructive critisism is much more accepted than demeaning critizism. As well, if your ideas are attacked and degraded, please don't retaliate with more arguing. ignore it, refute it in a calm and logical manner, or if you feel the need, contact a moderator. Remember, I can hit all of you with the banhammer... Don't worry, I'll use the flat side, so you won't be banned... you'll just feel the iron sting of shame. <3 Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way.Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it. Don't...? Why on Earth would you tell me not to learn something?Go somewhere else. It's just that some of the things that woman says.....it's kinda crazy. There, thats a little more civil. If you can post what you know on seeds, the tree of life, and crystal skulls, or provide good links, we can get down to a real discussion.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:20 am
Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter Atomisk prime Joshua_Ritter You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way. Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it. Don't...? Why on Earth would you tell me not to learn something?Go somewhere else. It's just that some of the things that woman says.....it's kinda crazy. There, thats a little more civil. If you can post what you know on seeds, the tree of life, and crystal skulls, or provide good links, we can get down to a real discussion.I don't think I should in this guild. I think that some of it's citazins are not ready for what I have to say. But by all means, I invite you the my guild to disscus it. And by no means did I mean that to be a threat of any kind.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:24 am
Atomisk prime I don't think I should in this guild. I think that some of it's citazins are not ready for what I have to say. But by all means, I invite you the my guild to disscus it. And by no means did I mean that to be a threat of any kind. That's it, no. Shut up and listen to me. I am going to teach you something. I think I misread, but you might've said you think it's not right to think yourself above others. What I'm gathering now is that this topic is all controversy to advertise your guild from that statement. Every person is the same. Flesh, blood, guts, brain. In no way should you elevate yourself over anyone else, honestly. That's enlightenment. That's nowhere near where I am. Either way, if we're "not ready for what you have to say," honestly, from my view, you're far less than ready for it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:34 am
Oh yay! Blue gets to play Extended Debate! This is the part of the show where Blue goes through all the posts that Atomisk has made, and tears them apart! Disclaimer:throughout this post, Blue is perfectly calm, blunt, and having a bit of fun, as he has been throughout all of his posts. Atomisk prime And you being able to detemine this when I cannot makes you.....more inteligent? I never said that, now did I? If I did, please, show me. Atomisk prime Or it seems to me that you just feel threatened so you resort to name calling. Nor did I resort to name calling. I did as you do. I made an observation, evaluated it, and then stated the observation. Atomisk prime I am not here to start any arguements. But when I was recomended to this guild, I had the impression that it would be full of open minded people. But it's full of people who are seperate from the comunity. Who belive what they belive in and mabe something on the side. Well, that was your fault for assuming then, wasn't it? Which, might I add, you're doing again as how you really do not know anyone in here, and you are grouping every member of the guild together, and saying something bout the group. Atomisk prime But when something is handed to them that mabe contradicts what they belive, they discredit it's source. I cannot speak for everyone, but personally, I never once say any information that contratdicts what I beleive, nor did I see anyone discredit anything. Atomisk prime But back to the point, you call me an idiot for thinking that i'm above most people in terms of comprehension. Yes, I did. Thank you for reading part of my post. I find you an idiot because you seem to have an infuriority complex. Atomisk prime But to be honest with you, i'm telling the truth (in my oun opinion.) But mabe thats to hard for your mind to comprehend? That someone out there is more observent, and more knowledgeable then you? Or just on a higher plain of thinking. What would make you beleive that? You do not know me. In fact, I can safely say that you know nothing of me other than the fact that I openly share my oppinions, I am blunt, and I support anyones veiws and am willing to listen to them IF and WHEN they share them. Atomisk prime And what if I did hold this "specail knowledge"? Would you be willing to learn from it? Or would you discredit it because the person who told you, you did not understand. Therefore you hate him. But you see, calling me dumb, or an idiot because you can't understand me is just like going to a city council meeting in the middle of parlomentry procedure and calling the chairman an idiot because you can't understand what he is saying. I understood all that you said perfectly. I even looked at it as if I was in your shoes typing it, however, you never once shared your special knowledge, and I beleive you never inteded to. Atomisk prime There for in my opinion, you are ignorent. I think I might go cry now. You think I am iggnorant. So sad, but I honestly do not care what you think of me. Atomisk prime Although I may not agree with two of the things you said, I still think that if no one argued for what they thought was true, or right, then we would live in a totaly different world. We do live in that world. It's called a society. No matter how hard we try, society will always disagree and frown upon something different. I have a friend who people avoid on the street because he is an Albino. Atomisk prime Although one side of this arguement resorted to name calling, I still think this arguement is important. I think that if it were to stop now, then some people would not understand where I was coming from when I said that I was more inteligent then most people I didn't resort to name calling. Name calling would be saying you're a dumbass and leave it at that. I stated my veiw on you, then backed it up. Atomisk prime (Note: I never said that I was smarter then anyone here. If you feel that you are of the lower half, and you chose to take offence. Then I cannot do anything about that other the apologise.) I beleive you did. In the post above, you said you more intelligent then most people. That means that 51% or more of the people you will come across at random, your IQ will be higher than theirs. Atomisk prime Also on another note, I have no idea what tone people thought my posts were in. But I assure you, they were in the calmest way possible. As are mine. Atomisk prime That may have been what escalated the situaition. They were getting angery, and I was not. Or they thought that I was getting angry as well. So now the fault lays with everyone and anyone except yourself? I am sorry, but from a psycological standpoint, in any situation, No matter what happens, the fault lies evenly with each person, and yes, I am qualified to make that statement. Atomisk prime I hope to god that you don't mean me by "You" That right there is an agressive comment. Agressive comments are not needed in here. Atomisk prime And also, I guss it was my mistake to talk to two different people in one post without clarifying it. WHen I said that poeple should not discredit what they don't belive, I did not mean you. Do you want to know what that Looks like to me? It looks as if you are making an assumption that we cannot tell who you are talking to. Atomisk prime Also, I have givin respect, alot. I did not asume anything of my oponents until twords the end of the arguement. Unlike you, who assumes that I am religious. I AM atheist. Assume makes and "a**" out of "u" and "me". I'm sorry, I did not see a place where he had said you were religous. Atomisk prime Yes I do see that. But I meant to keep it vauge, for the reason that mabe people would find what I found. And the ansure is "Lemuria" The crystal sculls, seeds, tree of life and everything. It is the origin of man. And by the way, don't go on crystal links to reseach it. Now here, I see you giving information as to what you meant. When you come in a guild for discussion, wait, scratch that, any place of discussion, in your opening statement, you state your thoughts or a small amount of your thoughts so that you may steer the discussion to go where you want it to go. Ok, Blue is now done with Atomisk. He will now move on to someone else. Dras, I like you. You get a bag of cookies! I have nothing to say to you other than to ask good job. biggrin Joshua_Ritter You make one good arguement. Debate, disagreement, those are the things intellectual rigor is made of. Arguing is not. Arguing is a pointless fight of words, and if there is anything I cannot stand, it is a pointless action. To adress you purposely, the deliberately vague way your post was phrased could be construed to mean you claim higher or more special knowledge, and therefore you are a more special person. I hope you can see it can look that way. I really dont have anything to say to you other than I disagree. Debate is synonmous to argue. KarAniyuki, You get a bag of cookies as well. ~hands Drag and KarAniyuki each a bag of cookies~
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:38 am
KarAniyuki Atomisk prime I don't think I should in this guild. I think that some of it's citazins are not ready for what I have to say. But by all means, I invite you the my guild to disscus it. And by no means did I mean that to be a threat of any kind. That's it, no. Shut up and listen to me. I am going to teach you something. I think I misread, but you might've said you think it's not right to think yourself above others. What I'm gathering now is that this topic is all controversy to advertise your guild from that statement. Every person is the same. Flesh, blood, guts, brain. In no way should you elevate yourself over anyone else, honestly. That's enlightenment. That's nowhere near where I am. Either way, if we're "not ready for what you have to say," honestly, from my view, you're far less than ready for it. You must have miss-read. Because if you do not strive to be smarter then others, or more openminded. Or a "Higher level" Then whats the use of living? Though you may have a different point f veiw on life then me, I emplore you not to force what you belive on me. You may suggest it, but please don't state that as fact.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:41 am
Atomisk prime KarAniyuki Atomisk prime I don't think I should in this guild. I think that some of it's citazins are not ready for what I have to say. But by all means, I invite you the my guild to disscus it. And by no means did I mean that to be a threat of any kind. That's it, no. Shut up and listen to me. I am going to teach you something. I think I misread, but you might've said you think it's not right to think yourself above others. What I'm gathering now is that this topic is all controversy to advertise your guild from that statement. Every person is the same. Flesh, blood, guts, brain. In no way should you elevate yourself over anyone else, honestly. That's enlightenment. That's nowhere near where I am. Either way, if we're "not ready for what you have to say," honestly, from my view, you're far less than ready for it. You must have miss-read. Because if you do not strive to be smarter then others, or more openminded. Or a "Higher level" Then whats the use of living? Though you may have a different point f veiw on life then me, I emplore you not to force what you belive on me. You may suggest it, but please don't state that as fact. Alright, well, then, the ideal I'll suggest is you're an uppity child with an inferiority complex who's advertising his guild. That's all this topic is.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:43 am
I have to say blue, I read the first two quotes. And by no means do I think that you are "tearing them apart" And after reading thoes two, I have to say in no means of disrespect, that I cannot finish it. In my opinion. I think that it is......untrue. And I think that you are making it worse by completly deneying what you have done.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:44 am
KarAniyuki Atomisk prime KarAniyuki Atomisk prime I don't think I should in this guild. I think that some of it's citazins are not ready for what I have to say. But by all means, I invite you the my guild to disscus it. And by no means did I mean that to be a threat of any kind. That's it, no. Shut up and listen to me. I am going to teach you something. I think I misread, but you might've said you think it's not right to think yourself above others. What I'm gathering now is that this topic is all controversy to advertise your guild from that statement. Every person is the same. Flesh, blood, guts, brain. In no way should you elevate yourself over anyone else, honestly. That's enlightenment. That's nowhere near where I am. Either way, if we're "not ready for what you have to say," honestly, from my view, you're far less than ready for it. You must have miss-read. Because if you do not strive to be smarter then others, or more openminded. Or a "Higher level" Then whats the use of living? Though you may have a different point f veiw on life then me, I emplore you not to force what you belive on me. You may suggest it, but please don't state that as fact. Alright, well, then, the ideal I'll suggest is you're an uppity child with an inferiority complex who's advertising his guild. That's all this topic is. ~high fives~
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