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| HousexCameron (Totally hxc) |
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| HousexCuddy (Step into my office, baby) |
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| HousexWilson (Best friends and...more?) |
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| Anything involving Chase (Those Aussie men~) |
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| Foreman x ?? (Do I need a reason?) |
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 Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:48 pm
The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal I really don't agree with the last part. I mean, it's about business, you want to keep the good doctors you have, as much as it'll be nice for them to move on and everything, they'll still want to keep him, and I think that's what House was doing. I mean, that happened to my dad, he's a great civil engineer and the minute he quit his boss kept begging him to come back, but that doesn't mean my dad's boss was in love with him.
And he didn't look like he was in tears, he looked angry and if you were disappointed in a person I don't think you would look them in the eye. It looked more like House was angry on loosing one of his duckies at the end, not just Cameron. He did try very hard to keep all of them, he was willing to do anything to keep him together, it's his team, and he finally does find a way to keep them together just as one of them quits.
And he even looked Cameron in the eye and said he didn't like her, if he did like her I don't think he would look straight at her in the eye. That means he was lying, he was telling the truth that he really didn't like her. *sigh* sad i'm really not great with debates by the way xd But "It all about business"? Sure, but It's not Vogler we're talking about, it's House. And House isn't the typical person who'd just swallow his pride and show up at someone's doorsteps, 'begging' them back. He could have simply done it over the phone. I'm sure if it was Foreman, he would have. But he knew that Cameron wasn't going to come back that easy, so he had to do it face to face. Again with the pride, i don't think he'd agree to take her on a DATE real date just to get her back to work. Surely he would have thought of Wilson and everyone else's reaction. But he wwent with it anyways. All that can be simply done in one word though. Corsage. If it was just a date to get her back to work, you think he'd prepare a corsage??? and then ask Wilson if it's lame??? You know what, David Shore said it himself. Go check out the new interview that's up at http://www.fox.com/house/ 3nodding (btw, i hope i'm not sounding rude it's just my obsession xd . no hard feelings right? wink )
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:53 pm
Alright, I'm not going to venture into whether or not House like likes Camerons today, because we all have our own thoughts on that and I can't convince anybody of that, but I do want to talk about his "assessment" of her.
I, along with most of the world, applauded him for "shooting straight," on my first viewing of the scene (and we all know how devoutly I ship House/Cam, so that's saying something). But I thought about it, and thought about it, and I read some other people's thoughts about it, including the posts in these threads, and really, how accurate were his words?
Actually, I already figured that most of what he said was colored by his bitterness and depression. Anybody in here ever been depressed? Okay, then you know that if someone is showing interest in you, a depressed person, you make all these excuses in your head about how they must just pity you or see you as a "project," and that something must be wrong with them. We don't know anything about Cameron's first marriage, other than that he had cancer, and we heard that from House, a noted cynic, to say the least. He never considered that maybe Cameron and her husband had been, say, high school sweethearts, or that maybe she loved him so much that she wanted to spend the last months of his life with him, to make it more bearable. He certainly never commended the strength that it takes to be with someone who you love, and who you know is going to die. He, House, automatically assumed that she, Cameron, had some kind of attraction to tragedy. So he, House, is using that assumption to make himself feel better about rejecting her, because if he does like her, then he doesn't want to open himself up to and be with a person who just sees him as a "project."
It's kind of a dysfunctional defense mechanism. He disparages her, he disparages himself, he's driving a wedge between them.
I mean, I look at it that way. People already were knowing that what House said about himself was a result of self-pity, so why not look at what he said about Cameron as well? It was all a product of his huge emotional baggage.
/passes out from so many words!
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:03 pm
Mist of Veracity The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal I really don't agree with the last part. I mean, it's about business, you want to keep the good doctors you have, as much as it'll be nice for them to move on and everything, they'll still want to keep him, and I think that's what House was doing. I mean, that happened to my dad, he's a great civil engineer and the minute he quit his boss kept begging him to come back, but that doesn't mean my dad's boss was in love with him.
And he didn't look like he was in tears, he looked angry and if you were disappointed in a person I don't think you would look them in the eye. It looked more like House was angry on loosing one of his duckies at the end, not just Cameron. He did try very hard to keep all of them, he was willing to do anything to keep him together, it's his team, and he finally does find a way to keep them together just as one of them quits.
And he even looked Cameron in the eye and said he didn't like her, if he did like her I don't think he would look straight at her in the eye. That means he was lying, he was telling the truth that he really didn't like her. *sigh* sad i'm really not great with debates by the way xd But "It all about business"? Sure, but It's not Vogler we're talking about, it's House. And House isn't the typical person who'd just swallow his pride and show up at someone's doorsteps, 'begging' them back. He could have simply done it over the phone. I'm sure if it was Foreman, he would have. But he knew that Cameron wasn't going to come back that easy, so he had to do it face to face. Again with the pride, i don't think he'd agree to take her on a DATE real date just to get her back to work. Surely he would have thought of Wilson and everyone else's reaction. But he wwent with it anyways. All that can be simply done in one word though. Corsage. If it was just a date to get her back to work, you think he'd prepare a corsage??? and then ask Wilson if it's lame??? You know what, David Shore said it himself. Go check out the new interview that's up at http://www.fox.com/house/ 3nodding (btw, i hope i'm not sounding rude it's just my obsession xd . no hard feelings right? wink )
And, really, House is willing to do anything to keep his team together, getting lower pay, and I wouldn't be surprised if he agreed to a date at that. I mean, he doesn't really have self-esteem or any pride, we know that for a fact, so he doesn't really have any pride to loose.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 3:41 pm
I want to admit something I have been coming to terms with: I have a small crush on Chase. redface Is it the whole dominatrix thing.. I don't know, but he intrigues me. Yes his personality sucks sometimes, but I really want to know more about his character. That and he's sexy.
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Eloquent Conversationalist
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:54 pm
faeriebell I want to admit something I have been coming to terms with: I have a small crush on Chase. redface Is it the whole dominatrix thing.. I don't know, but he intrigues me. Yes his personality sucks sometimes, but I really want to know more about his character. That and he's sexy. The sexy part doesn't hurt. I'm glad old Chase (pre-Vogler and alcoholic Dad Chase) is coming back. He's a cutie.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:29 am
Agreed. Complete and utterly. The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal The corsage isn't very much, that's a tradition that they did on dates when House was growing up, so it wont be surprised he did it, it doesn't mean he likes her. I mean, my friend bought me a corsage when we went out on a double date, but that doesn't mean he liked me.
Okay. I'm not sure what is with that. But just because your friend brought you a corsage but he doesn't like you in that way, does not mean the same applies for House and Cameron. And just because your dad's boss begged for him to come back but she didn't like him in that way, does not mean the same applies for House and Cameron. I thought David Shore made that quite clear in his interview...unless you haven't seen it yet. faeriebell I want to admit something I have been coming to terms with: I have a small crush on Chase. Is it the whole dominatrix thing.. I don't know, but he intrigues me. Yes his personality sucks sometimes, but I really want to know more about his character. That and he's sexy. Yeah i like him when it's just him standing there, with his cropped sandy hair waving in the wind xd but not when his personality takes over. His history does intrigue me. The he and his dad interaction episode was really great i loved that. And it's weird somehow i always see him as a 'goodboy' whee guess he's not surprised
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:18 pm
Mist of Veracity Agreed. Complete and utterly. I actually spent about 3 minutes trying to figure out where I said "A lot of spot ons" and in what context. I am dumb. Hahahahaha. It will be interesting to see if Stacy throws a wrench into the House/Cameron dynamic or if the writers are backing off of a House/Cam angle until next season. The date did seem to effectively put a damper on the whole thing, no matter how it actually went, there wasn't much interaction between the two afterwards. I see the whole relationship progressing much more slowly from here on out. If it continues, and her "crush" doesn't simply peter out. (As sad as that would make me.)
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:41 pm
Mist of Veracity The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal The corsage isn't very much, that's a tradition that they did on dates when House was growing up, so it wont be surprised he did it, it doesn't mean he likes her. I mean, my friend bought me a corsage when we went out on a double date, but that doesn't mean he liked me.
Okay. I'm not sure what is with that. But just because your friend brought you a corsage but he doesn't like you in that way, does not mean the same applies for House and Cameron. And just because your dad's boss begged for him to come back but she didn't like him in that way, does not mean the same applies for House and Cameron. I thought David Shore made that quite clear in his interview...unless you haven't seen it yet.
I mean, really, he did look her straight in the eye and said 'no', that mean he was no lying and was letting her know he's not lying either.
Besides, I even believe Cameron's feelings for House was make-believe, she just got over a death of her husband or whatever, she's just looking for some security and saw House being vulnerable.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:53 pm
The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal I'm just pointing out that it doesn't always mean they like eachother. I thought House made it utterly clear he had no feelings ever for her in the last episode.
I mean, really, he did look her straight in the eye and said 'no', that mean he was no lying and was letting her know he's not lying either.
Besides, I even believe Cameron's feelings for House was make-believe, she just got over a death of her husband or whatever, she's just looking for some security and saw House being vulnerable. And just because you say something, doesn't mean you mean it. Like Odalisque said before(well, something similar), it's House's own insecurity and low self-esteem that's making him jump to conclusions to what really makes Cameron -quote House- *tick*. Odalisque I actually spent about 3 minutes trying to figure out where I said "A lot of spot ons" and in what context. I am dumb. Hahahahaha. It will be interesting to see if Stacy throws a wrench into the House/Cameron dynamic or if the writers are backing off of a House/Cam angle until next season. The date did seem to effectively put a damper on the whole thing, no matter how it actually went, there wasn't much interaction between the two afterwards. I see the whole relationship progressing much more slowly from here on out. If it continues, and her "crush" doesn't simply peter out. (As sad as that would make me.) On one side, the date was disastrous and very depressing for both of them. But on the other hand, the writers won't be pushing this realtionship. at least no anytime soon. If they made everything progress so fast, there'll be nothing left in later seasons. crying I'm intersted as to the Stacy/House/Cameron thing. like i said over in my quest thread, i hope Cam gets tangled in all this somehow xd which isn't exactly a good idea...
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:07 am
Mist of Veracity The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal I'm just pointing out that it doesn't always mean they like eachother. I thought House made it utterly clear he had no feelings ever for her in the last episode.
I mean, really, he did look her straight in the eye and said 'no', that mean he was no lying and was letting her know he's not lying either.
Besides, I even believe Cameron's feelings for House was make-believe, she just got over a death of her husband or whatever, she's just looking for some security and saw House being vulnerable. And just because you say something, doesn't mean you mean it. Like Odalisque said before(well, something similar), it's House's own insecurity and low self-esteem that's making him jump to conclusions to what really makes Cameron -quote House- *tick*.
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:48 am
The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal Yea, but all of that was 100% true, besides, you haven't said anything about him looking her straight in the eye and saying 'no', if House was lying about that he wouldn't be able to look at her, but he did. Okay. Two can play at that game. And you haven't said anything about that inverview by David Shore. I thought the whole point of our debate was whether House LIKES Cameron or not. I really don't want to reason anymore, because Shore CLEARLY said that House LIKES Cameron himself. And i don't think the creator could be wrong about HIS creation... http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:36 am
Mist of Veracity The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal Yea, but all of that was 100% true, besides, you haven't said anything about him looking her straight in the eye and saying 'no', if House was lying about that he wouldn't be able to look at her, but he did. Okay. Two can play at that game. And you haven't said anything about that inverview by David Shore. I thought the whole point of our debate was whether House LIKES Cameron or not. I really don't want to reason anymore, because Shore CLEARLY said that House LIKES Cameron himself. And i don't think the creator could be wrong about HIS creation... http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ Now, honey, let's not get mean here 3nodding According to David Shore, sure, House likes Cameron. Whether he's romantically interested or just attracted is up for debate, and anyway, what David Shore thinks and how it comes across on screen are two different animals. So civil debate is very nice! I enjoy a good discussion. But it seems to be gettign a bit fiery and personal, and hurt feelings over fictional characters are bad. (Trust me, I played that game with the X-Files. It's not worth it.)
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:02 pm
Odalisque Now, honey, let's not get mean here 3nodding According to David Shore, sure, House likes Cameron. Whether he's romantically interested or just attracted is up for debate, and anyway, what David Shore thinks and how it comes across on screen are two different animals. So civil debate is very nice! I enjoy a good discussion. But it seems to be gettign a bit fiery and personal, and hurt feelings over fictional characters are bad. (Trust me, I played that game with the X-Files. It's not worth it.) Ship wars are fun xd and yeah, i'll stop rambling with my stupidity xp But with the ships, i think we can probably add House/Stacy ( stare ) to the list. I do think there'll be some followers soon, if not already. She does seem like a nice person that i'd like to see House with, but you can't undo the past, and what's over is over. Still...i have to give props for the producers, they made Stacy such a great character i don't even hate her domokun
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:09 pm
Mist of Veracity The.Evil.Mermaid.Sal Yea, but all of that was 100% true, besides, you haven't said anything about him looking her straight in the eye and saying 'no', if House was lying about that he wouldn't be able to look at her, but he did. Okay. Two can play at that game. And you haven't said anything about that inverview by David Shore. I thought the whole point of our debate was whether House LIKES Cameron or not. I really don't want to reason anymore, because Shore CLEARLY said that House LIKES Cameron himself. And i don't think the creator could be wrong about HIS creation... http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/ http://www.fox.com/house/
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:11 pm
Mist of Veracity Ship wars are fun xd and yeah, i'll stop rambling with my stupidity xp Ship wars are not fun! Ship wars engender bad feelings all around, and are not really productive as far as the fandom goes. All they do is divide people, when what we want to do is come together and share the love. Really, do you want this place to start looking like the Harry Potter subforum? I can't even... mention a fanon pairing I like without being attacked by someone taking it personally, and attacking me, when it would have been just as easy to leave me alone :/ That kind of stuff keeps happening, and it drives a lot of fans out of the fandom (any fandom, not just Potter [Star Wars/LotR/what have you]). I mean, in conclusion, ship wars and the nastiness that follows are bad. All of that unpleasantness aside, I actually think that more than anything, Tuesday kind of made me a House/Cuddy fan. I still like House/Cameron, but... I think Cuddy is kind of similar to Stacy, personality wise, so she should theoretically be really good for House (despite the fact that it already hasn't worked out...).
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