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Kain Wynd

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:27 pm


James sama

I have read all of your statements and would like you to know this hoodoo and voodoo are the same thing with few differencses voodoo is the pureest form of this majik and is used for maney reasons that is why it is nuetral majik practiced by whitchdocters and shamans hoodoo is voodoo of the americas which we added god and religion to it Now as for zombies andy time in which a soul has left its body the still living boidy becomes a zombie now if you read laurel K. hamilton's Anita Blake novels you would know that also the ways of killing zombies are different as well majikal zombies are animater by just that majik and cant be killed except by fire aka the clenseing funeral pyre but the zombies in certain movies are animated by some viruss can be killed usualy by decapitation or destruction fo the brainnow as for the voodoo zombies they have a weak heartbeat and dont have to eat any more their strength be comes slightly greater and a lot o f brain functions cese like creative thought and some times even speech a good movie to watch on voodoo would be the rainbow and the serpent in the movie the main character be comes a zombie and is forced to live as the cursers slave till the curser decides to let him free now if you reed the books as mention earlier then you would be led to beleave that zombies are the direct effect of a necromancer reanimateing a dead person and that the way to keep a zombie cognate is to feed them blood not exactly humans blood but it needs to be blood also note that zombies also disslike light and only eat humans when the reanimated corpse is that of a necromancer.


Okay, dear, above is your post. Now, let's just fix a few things with spelling and punctuation so that you are communicating in a manner befitting the higher individual that we know you are (you wouldn't be using such an intricate and complex human language to communicate if you were a lesser being, as common as our mongrel language is), and we get the following:

James sama should have

I have read all of your statements and would like you to know that hoodoo and voodoo are the same thing, with a few differences: voodoo is the purest form of this magic and is used for many reasons; that is why it is neutral magic practiced by witchdoctors and shamans. Hoodoo is voodoo of the Americas to which we've added god and religion. Now as for zombies: any time in which a soul has left its body, the still living body becomes a zombie. Now if you read Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake novels, you would know also that the ways of killing zombies are different as well. Magical zombies are animated by just that, magic, and can't be killed except by fire; aka the cleansing funeral pyre. But the zombies in certain movies are animated by some virus can be killed usually by decapitation or destruction of the brain. Now as for the voodoo zombies, they have a weak heartbeat and don't have to eat any more. Their strength becomes slightly greater and a lot of brain functions cease, like creative thought and, sometimes even speech. A good movie to watch on voodoo would be The Rainbow and the Serpent. In the movie, the main character becomes a zombie and is forced to live as the “cursers” slave till the “curser” decides to let him free. Now if you read the books that I mentioned earlier, then you would be led to believe that zombies are the direct effect of a necromancer reanimating a dead person and that the way to keep a zombie cognate is to feed them blood; not exactly humans blood, but it needs to be blood. Also note that zombies dislike light and only eat humans when the reanimated corpse is that of a necromancer.


Now, I understand that you wrote your message directly into the window and had no recourse to the use of a spell checker, or grammar checker in a word processing program, but there are linguistic rules to follow, particularly when dealing with the word Magic.

Furthermore, it has come to my attention that, while I was making your message palatable to the general populace of our wonderful world, you use a selection of stories and novels from the fiction section of your local Barnes & Noble or Borders Bookstore. While such sources are truly endearing and do seem to speak to the greater wealth of knowledge held in general in the field of the occult, they are not now, nor should they ever be used in the future of your career, or anyone else's for that matter, as a reputable source of information. After all, they are merely fiction novels with fictional content, and thusly the information held within is fictionalized to create a more exciting story.

Now don't get me wrong, I do happen to enjoy Laurell K. Hamilton's work, however, I would no sooner use her books as a source of occult lore of any kind than I would use a backscratcher for a douche.

As for linguistics, magic in its common spelling comes from the Latin magica, which is based with the Latin magis, which means to a higher degree. Now let us not get into definitions here and focus on the meat of our current predicament: you spelled magic in such a way that it offends the eyes to read it, and the soul to have it spoken. Please, for future reference, refrain from that horrendous spelling and opt for something of more substance. In all of your endeavors.

That is all.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:36 am


Eric Wolfborn
James sama
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no no, im pretty sure im right, i thopught it was the other way too, until a girl in my class did a project on it.
hoo doo was just thought of as voo doo because people dint understand either one and asumed voo doo was evil, hoo doo is the dark part of the religion, the part that is the dolls


It should be noted that it's not all dark. Voodoo dolls are just like poppets in early European magical practice...they can be, and usually are, used for healing. It's only sometimes they're used for messing up your enemies.

I have read all of your statements and would like you to know this hoodoo and voodoo are the same thing with few differencses voodoo is the pureest form of this majik and is used for maney reasons that is why it is nuetral majik practiced by whitchdocters and shamans hoodoo is voodoo of the americas which we added god and religion to it Now as for zombies andy time in which a soul has left its body the still living boidy becomes a zombie now if you read laurel K. hamilton's Anita Blake novels you would know that also the ways of killing zombies are different as well majikal zombies are animater by just that majik and cant be killed except by fire aka the clenseing funeral pyre but the zombies in certain movies are animated by some viruss can be killed usualy by decapitation or destruction fo the brainnow as for the voodoo zombies they have a weak heartbeat and dont have to eat any more their strength be comes slightly greater and a lot o f brain functions cese like creative thought and some times even speech a good movie to watch on voodoo would be the rainbow and the serpent in the movie the main character be comes a zombie and is forced to live as the cursers slave till the curser decides to let him free now if you reed the books as mention earlier then you would be led to beleave that zombies are the direct effect of a necromancer reanimateing a dead person and that the way to keep a zombie cognate is to feed them blood not exactly humans blood but it needs to be blood also note that zombies also disslike light and only eat humans when the reanimated corpse is that of a necromancer.


If you find a book in the 'fiction' section, that means that it isn't meant to be taken seriously. Neither is the sci-fi or fantasy section of your local blockbuster. Word to the wise, that.

Firstly, it's magic. Screwing with the spelling doesn't change what it is. There is no 'pure form' of magic. It's a personal art.

As for Houdou and Voudun, they are indeed two different things. Voudun , or voodoo as it's commonly called, is the religion that emphasizes prayer and piety, whereas Houdou is the shamanistic craft practiced by traditional 'witchdoctors,' or whatever it is you choose to call them.

Magical zombies can be killed in a number of ways, depending on the means of their creation. Zombies raised with Greek necromantic rites must be killed by nailing them to their funeral bed. Houdou zombies must have their mouths filled with salt, and then sewn shut. Strigan, a ghoul from the middle east, must be slain via bodily dismemberment. Demonic (to be read: Christian) zombies can be slain in many ways similar to that of demons, with consecrated iron or silver weapons, or, for our purposes, bullets. Russian undead must be burned after having their heads cut off...and even then, the being may return for a day or two afterword.
Some zombies can be tied to a particular object, and can only be killed by destroying the philactriate, much like a liche. Then there are the plague dancers, known for their famous 'Danse Macabre.' There is no way to kill these beings...you just have to wait out the plague that spawned them. They will not persue you, but if you stumble across them while they're dancing, you will immediately be infected with what killed them.

...and as a side note, what on Earth could the english language have ever done to you to warrant you butchering it so badly? Why must you hurt it so? In the future, please use some kind of punctuation...and you might want to run your posts through a spell checker. You spelled every other word wrong. Really wrong.


first of all the way I spelled Magic I dont know I just like spelling it that way but if you read more, you would know that others spell it the same way as I did. Now as fo the purest form you took it out of context with what I was saying I would also like you to know that zonbies on the whole coud not exsist in a chemical sense those would be your plauge dancers from occult movies like dawn of the dead, and yes I'll admit that LKHamilton is not the best way of giving out pointers on zombie or vampiers but it does hold relevence to the topic on hand wether it is fiction al based or not. the necromancer theroy from it could come from some crazey wicca voodoo book that she read and as for my spelling though it is horrible, and it is I know, I just dont spell well now I would like to know where you get your information from because the book "What to do in case of a Zombie attack" is also listed under ficton as well, and no I dont use punctuation but my gramer is not what is the topic of descusion pluse I have a sucky computer so dont blame me. domokun

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:14 am


Read books in the paranormal section of your library. It's a good source of information. And the logistics of actual undead zombies are very chancy for the existence of said critter.

However, one of my most trusted friends was in Haiti recently and saw voudoun zombies. So those I will say are real without exception. The others I want proof on.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:42 pm


James sama
Eric Wolfborn
James sama
Eric Wolfborn
Shanna66
no no, im pretty sure im right, i thopught it was the other way too, until a girl in my class did a project on it.
hoo doo was just thought of as voo doo because people dint understand either one and asumed voo doo was evil, hoo doo is the dark part of the religion, the part that is the dolls


It should be noted that it's not all dark. Voodoo dolls are just like poppets in early European magical practice...they can be, and usually are, used for healing. It's only sometimes they're used for messing up your enemies.

I have read all of your statements and would like you to know this hoodoo and voodoo are the same thing with few differencses voodoo is the pureest form of this majik and is used for maney reasons that is why it is nuetral majik practiced by whitchdocters and shamans hoodoo is voodoo of the americas which we added god and religion to it Now as for zombies andy time in which a soul has left its body the still living boidy becomes a zombie now if you read laurel K. hamilton's Anita Blake novels you would know that also the ways of killing zombies are different as well majikal zombies are animater by just that majik and cant be killed except by fire aka the clenseing funeral pyre but the zombies in certain movies are animated by some viruss can be killed usualy by decapitation or destruction fo the brainnow as for the voodoo zombies they have a weak heartbeat and dont have to eat any more their strength be comes slightly greater and a lot o f brain functions cese like creative thought and some times even speech a good movie to watch on voodoo would be the rainbow and the serpent in the movie the main character be comes a zombie and is forced to live as the cursers slave till the curser decides to let him free now if you reed the books as mention earlier then you would be led to beleave that zombies are the direct effect of a necromancer reanimateing a dead person and that the way to keep a zombie cognate is to feed them blood not exactly humans blood but it needs to be blood also note that zombies also disslike light and only eat humans when the reanimated corpse is that of a necromancer.


If you find a book in the 'fiction' section, that means that it isn't meant to be taken seriously. Neither is the sci-fi or fantasy section of your local blockbuster. Word to the wise, that.

Firstly, it's magic. Screwing with the spelling doesn't change what it is. There is no 'pure form' of magic. It's a personal art.

As for Houdou and Voudun, they are indeed two different things. Voudun , or voodoo as it's commonly called, is the religion that emphasizes prayer and piety, whereas Houdou is the shamanistic craft practiced by traditional 'witchdoctors,' or whatever it is you choose to call them.

Magical zombies can be killed in a number of ways, depending on the means of their creation. Zombies raised with Greek necromantic rites must be killed by nailing them to their funeral bed. Houdou zombies must have their mouths filled with salt, and then sewn shut. Strigan, a ghoul from the middle east, must be slain via bodily dismemberment. Demonic (to be read: Christian) zombies can be slain in many ways similar to that of demons, with consecrated iron or silver weapons, or, for our purposes, bullets. Russian undead must be burned after having their heads cut off...and even then, the being may return for a day or two afterword.
Some zombies can be tied to a particular object, and can only be killed by destroying the philactriate, much like a liche. Then there are the plague dancers, known for their famous 'Danse Macabre.' There is no way to kill these beings...you just have to wait out the plague that spawned them. They will not persue you, but if you stumble across them while they're dancing, you will immediately be infected with what killed them.

...and as a side note, what on Earth could the english language have ever done to you to warrant you butchering it so badly? Why must you hurt it so? In the future, please use some kind of punctuation...and you might want to run your posts through a spell checker. You spelled every other word wrong. Really wrong.


first of all the way I spelled Magic I dont know I just like spelling it that way but if you read more, you would know that others spell it the same way as I did. Now as fo the purest form you took it out of context with what I was saying I would also like you to know that zonbies on the whole coud not exsist in a chemical sense those would be your plauge dancers from occult movies like dawn of the dead, and yes I'll admit that LKHamilton is not the best way of giving out pointers on zombie or vampiers but it does hold relevence to the topic on hand wether it is fiction al based or not. the necromancer theroy from it could come from some crazey wicca voodoo book that she read and as for my spelling though it is horrible, and it is I know, I just dont spell well now I would like to know where you get your information from because the book "What to do in case of a Zombie attack" is also listed under ficton as well, and no I dont use punctuation but my gramer is not what is the topic of descusion pluse I have a sucky computer so dont blame me. domokun


No, I will blame you for your failures.

Now, as for my information: Transcriptions of classical Grecian and Roman necromantic Papyri have provided me with my backing in that area. The Egyptian book of the dead, Tibetan book of the dead, Necronomicon, the writings of several witch-finder generals, detailed records from military commanders encountering paranormal entities in the field...well, the list goes on.

Dawn of the dead zombies are not plague dancers. Take a few minutes to read what I wrote, mull it over, and come back.

Also, associating Wicca and Voudun is a little like associating a rock with a moose.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:22 am


Erm, I hate to tell you but the Necronomicon is not a valid source. It was written shortly after H.P. Lovecraft released his books that included the Cthulu mythos in the 1930's. It is purely a work of fiction, and as such, cannot be used as a valid source.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:28 pm


okay the well I need to look up your plauge dancers but as for associating wica and voodun being as different as arock and a moose I think not atmiiedly the association is a bad one the term should have been wrote like this "the necromancer theroy from it could come from some crazey wicca-voodoo book" sorta like a combination of the two not saying that wicca and voodoo are the same also since they both take thier magic from the earth andf nature they arent that different more like the difference between dogs and cats not between a moose and a rock

James sama


Eric Wolfborn

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:11 pm


Skrae
Erm, I hate to tell you but the Necronomicon is not a valid source. It was written shortly after H.P. Lovecraft released his books that included the Cthulu mythos in the 1930's. It is purely a work of fiction, and as such, cannot be used as a valid source.


It does, however, have it's own zombie mythos, which is distinctly seperate from other lore on the creatures, making it unique in it's interpretations of the beings. A one of a kind, as it were, making it at least somewhat noteworthy, as it's permeated our culture to some degree.

Citing a book written last year that adds nothing to zombie mythos, however, is a waste of breath.

...and James: I have no ******** clue what language you're speaking.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:28 pm


Spelling magic majik is the most asinine thing I have ever seen. As a witch, I take personal offense to it, and I would thank you to spell it right for future reference.

If you are any kind of a magical person, you should respect yourself enough to spell that most prime element of the Art correctly, in a way that it is exalted and doesn't offend the eyes of others and make you look like a complete tool and/or idiot.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:00 am


Kain Wynd
Spelling magic majik is the most asinine thing I have ever seen. As a witch, I take personal offense to it, and I would thank you to spell it right for future reference.

If you are any kind of a magical person, you should respect yourself enough to spell that most prime element of the Art correctly, in a way that it is exalted and doesn't offend the eyes of others and make you look like a complete tool and/or idiot.

i think that spelling it different ways may mean different things, not sure though, but i know alot of pagan, wiccan, and all the other books ive read on it they have spelled magic both ways, sometimes even in the same book. but i dont really get it too much. so dont hold it against me
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:21 pm


I've seen it spelled at least 4 ways...it depends on who you're talking to I suppose..

James, you're spelling makes my eyes hurt. And I'm not even kidding... I would appreciate it greatly if you made an attempt to spell a few things right off and on...I have difficulties reading your posts, and therefore cannot contribute or help you.

And Eric, thanks for pointing that out about the Necronomicon. I was mainly concerned with those that believe blindly in it and are convinced that it is pure thruth.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:26 am


i really should look up the reason for the spelling
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:31 pm


Skrae
I've seen it spelled at least 4 ways...it depends on who you're talking to I suppose..

James, you're spelling makes my eyes hurt. And I'm not even kidding... I would appreciate it greatly if you made an attempt to spell a few things right off and on...I have difficulties reading your posts, and therefore cannot contribute or help you.

And Eric, thanks for pointing that out about the Necronomicon. I was mainly concerned with those that believe blindly in it and are convinced that it is pure thruth.


As a good friend of mine likes to say, 'there's truth in all things,' you just need to look at it objectively. The Necronomicon is unique enough that it offers a different perspective, so it's at least worth taking a glance at.

Eric Wolfborn


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:17 am


Zombies I could deal with. A little depressing but yah.

None of that flesh eating business though. D:

I can think of nothing worse than looking from my bedroom window and seeing one staggering towards my house.
I actually fear them above all other supernatural (not really sure whether to class them as that but eh) beings.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:51 pm


I'm scared of zombies the most. Worst fear. I can't see myself not shooting myself. I wouldn't be able to deal with zombies. Thank god they're impossible. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:27 am


http://www.fvza.org/index.html

Site talking about government study on vampires/werewolves/zombies.
Apparently, there used to be a section of the government for this. o.O
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