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Ombrophobia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:20 pm


Evolutoin is a proven fact. To say it doesn't exist means you don't get flu shots ever.

What I mean is that the flu bug evolves, so every year you need a new shot. Otherwise you would only need one shot till like 12 years.

But thats not the way biology works. Organisms (i.e. Monkeys) don't just decide to evolve to other organisms (i.e. Humans).

As for spontaneous generation, that's totally not possible... It's just not.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:31 am


Sorry, this comment answers question on page 1 - I came into the discussion late.

Cross breeding between similar species does occur - a mule is the offspring of a horse and a donkey - BUT mules are sterile - they cannot have babies themselves. This is also the case with ligers (lion/tiger mix) and zorses (zebra/horse).

Personally I think this is one of the biggest hurdles for an evolutionist (with out bringing in 'intelligent design'). For a new species to develop you would need a breeding pair - 2 successful mutations at the same place and time! Probabilities for this occuring would be nearly impossible!

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Rick Dawkins

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:46 pm


Iveris
Imotoku
...does the Bible allow evolution?


...Even Darwin made the claim that the fossil record should be full of transitional fossils. There are none to be found.

Also, the theory of evolution states that life began from spontaneous generation. In other words, life just sprouted, spontaneously, from non-life. This is impossible...Spontaneous generation has been disproven time and again...


Who made you an expert on biochemistry? Look up Tektaalik, a clear transitional fossil. We've found hundreds upon hundreds of transitional fossils, but people who are ignorant of the elegance of evolution look at every transitional fossil as creating another gap on each side for other fossils to be found.

As for spontaneous generation, a.k.a. "Abiogenesis," it's technical term (look it up), there have been a number of experiments proving it is possible. It's been done: taking two chemicals (cyanide and amonia) which are inorganic and freezing them. The drop in temperature increases the rate of reaction (some reactions are sped up by low temperatures while others are nearly stopped completely), the cyaniide and ammonia began creating base structures and RNA chains. It took 20 years to reach that stage but organic life from inorganic life has been done, it's not that hard. That said, evolution is free to run it's course.

We don't need the fossil record to prove evolution, tracing back DNA to it's roots gives us proof that everything organic came from a single ancestor. Not just animals, but plants as well. We don't just share a common ancestor with apes (we didn't evolve FROM monkeys and apes), we share a common ancestor with venus fly traps and the common cold. In fact, around 10% of our DNA is carried through retroviruses much like the flu and without them we couldn't pass on our DNA to our children. If you want to throw out evolution then you can forget about the new discoveries of recently evolved proteins in humans that are beginning to combat the HIV virus. If you don't believe in the science behind medical progress then you shouldn't get to enjoy it's benefits.

I can't be nice about this. I swear if you pull out Micheal Behe I'm going to shoot myself in the face.
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:20 pm


I don't know if anyone has heard about this, but I think it would be a good idea to watch shows like "Creatures that Defy Evolution" or even "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" with Ben Stein.

All are pretty good arguments for Intelligent Design. There's also books such as Creation vs. Evolution and Dismantling Evolution by Ralph O. Muncaster, and The Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel. And Searching for the Truth on Origins by Roger Oakland.

Research, folks!! Though I'm a Christian, I am also fascinated with historic and scientific findings. Knowledge is power.

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flyingemublue

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:58 am


Evolution=Millions of years filled with the deaths of lesser creatures, so stronger creatures can evolve into lesser and stronger creatures, only for more death to occur.

Evolution is based on the death of weeker cretures.



DEATH entered the world when two HUMANS ate an apple, not millions of years before.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:05 pm


It all depends on how litterally you take the bible to be
But to my personal belifes they do and can co-exist
But to some it is impossible

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