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PoeticVengeance

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:29 am


The title of this thread is misleading.

People do not chose their orientation. It is biologically caused. You are stuck with it no matter what you may want.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:06 am


PoeticVengeance
The title of this thread is misleading.

People do not chose their orientation. It is biologically caused. You are stuck with it no matter what you may want.


While you cannot choose your orientation, you can choose your actions. i.e. you can choose to ignore that and pretend to be straight.

Which is what I presume those people who are "cured" through the "power of the lord" are doing.

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HarmonicaDePameli

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:26 am


I really think that being gay is just part of who someone is, and should not be discriminated against. Curse Bush for not recognising this!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:47 am


I don't know. . . My friend chose to be bi, but she is nice and didn't ask for any trouble--it's not her that's the problem, it's the rest of the world who doesn't realize she's still human. It doesn't matter what the bible says, it's still interpretted wrong no matter where you go.

D_Marx


PoeticVengeance

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:42 pm


redem
PoeticVengeance
The title of this thread is misleading.

People do not chose their orientation. It is biologically caused. You are stuck with it no matter what you may want.


While you cannot choose your orientation, you can choose your actions. i.e. you can choose to ignore that and pretend to be straight.

Which is what I presume those people who are "cured" through the "power of the lord" are doing.


Essentially yes.

However, the title of this thread is vague enough that it could mean either one.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:38 am


PoeticVengeance
redem
PoeticVengeance
The title of this thread is misleading.

People do not chose their orientation. It is biologically caused. You are stuck with it no matter what you may want.


While you cannot choose your orientation, you can choose your actions. i.e. you can choose to ignore that and pretend to be straight.

Which is what I presume those people who are "cured" through the "power of the lord" are doing.


Essentially yes.

However, the title of this thread is vague enough that it could mean either one.


I'm sorry my title has caused you so much heart ache...*cough*
I think the point is when we get over your dislikes is the fact you know what the topic aims to discuss and that it would be nice to discuss the actual topic. I can't make everyone happy all the time but I can direct a conversation in the direction I feel I want to discuss.
Thanks nevertheless for your concern.

Lime Green Snail


PoeticVengeance

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:09 pm


Lime Green Snail
PoeticVengeance
redem
PoeticVengeance
The title of this thread is misleading.

People do not chose their orientation. It is biologically caused. You are stuck with it no matter what you may want.


While you cannot choose your orientation, you can choose your actions. i.e. you can choose to ignore that and pretend to be straight.

Which is what I presume those people who are "cured" through the "power of the lord" are doing.


Essentially yes.

However, the title of this thread is vague enough that it could mean either one.


I'm sorry my title has caused you so much heart ache...*cough*


oh, I'm not upset or anything.

I'm sure the mistake wasn't on purpose.

I just felt it needed to be clarified.

Quote:

I think the point is when we get over your dislikes is the fact you know what the topic aims to discuss and that it would be nice to discuss the actual topic.


Wow, a little touchy aren't we?

I didn't mean to cause you heart ache with my clarification either.

But I'm quite willing to discuss the topic itself, now that the title's problems have been called into view.

^^

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I can't make everyone happy all the time but I can direct a conversation in the direction I feel I want to discuss.


Never said you could or that you should.

Quote:

Thanks nevertheless for your concern.


You're welcome.


Now, on to the actual topic itself:

Lime Green Snail
I'm a little appauled at the amount of protesting that goes on about gay people in the united states, or what I've seen in the media (which can only be taken with a grain of truth), what is everyone's opinion on this.
I'm also very interested in the christian view of what is going on, and do you think this is a bad image for your religion.


The fact is while America has it better then a lot of places (the Middle East for instance, where homosexuals are executed) it is still appalling how hypocritical this country is.

We claim we support freedom and the rights of the individual and then go and take away rights, as well as poke our noses into the business of others.

The only time such an action is justified is when it protects others, and ganking homosexuals does nothing of the sort.

This is the action of a self righteous, evil minority fooling a large portion of a mainstream religion that homosexuality is sinful, and fooling a large portion of the secular mainstream population that homosexuality is gross and dangerous to children.

Its not a good thing, this line of events in America, and it does not reflect well on Christianity.

Conversion rates for Christianity are getting virtually raped by this bad press and this bigotry on the part of the church.

Quite a few Christians are actually leaving the Catholic Church (and other sects too) because they won't put up with the hatred and vitriol.

So I assert that this is hurting Christianity a lot too, and could eventually lead to a notable degradation of the entire religion.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:14 am


D_Marx
I don't know. . . My friend chose to be bi, but she is nice and didn't ask for any trouble--it's not her that's the problem, it's the rest of the world who doesn't realize she's still human. It doesn't matter what the bible says, it's still interpretted wrong no matter where you go.


Actually, I had a chance to think about this a bit more and my friend didn't Choose to be bi, just chose to live with the lifestyle and be true to herself. I think this response is better than the last statement I made. <3

D_Marx


PoeticVengeance

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:34 pm


D_Marx
D_Marx
I don't know. . . My friend chose to be bi, but she is nice and didn't ask for any trouble--it's not her that's the problem, it's the rest of the world who doesn't realize she's still human. It doesn't matter what the bible says, it's still interpretted wrong no matter where you go.


Actually, I had a chance to think about this a bit more and my friend didn't Choose to be bi, just chose to live with the lifestyle and be true to herself. I think this response is better than the last statement I made. <3


3nodding

^_^
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:16 pm


OMG there is this new study were the ..uhaudda...uhhmm well they are xpermimenting on a bunch of poor little gay sheep and they are trying to "cure" gay ness!!!!!!thats just messedup

shadowpunk360


Lime Green Snail

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:15 pm


There are gay sheep?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:59 am


It's just retarded how much s**t we get just for being gay I just don't understand why the hell they think they have the right to say how I live my life why can't they just leave us alone and stop thier constant bitching about stuff that doesn't affect them.

Dr. Chocolate Pants


randomfuzzy

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:13 pm


LadyInTheRose
"Man shall not lay with Man." Well, may I ask all you strait fellows out there, have you ever laid in the same bed with which a woman on her period has laid? Because the bible says that's a no-no, too. Point being, the bible says a lot of silly nonsense and all of it is contridicting within' itself.

And, I beleive someone took these words right out of my mouth...

NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE GAY. Why would ANYONE choose to be gay in a society like this, and go through the MASSIVE amount of torment they face on a constant basis. People KILL themselves because they are so ashamed of who they are, because society jabbs it in their heads that they are different and that it is wrong.
I wish those fundamentalist ******** would stop waving their Jesus fingers into everyones face, or I might be tempted to chop them off evil .

One day I hope I can live in a society where homosexuals can wed.

heart to all of you who are accepting.


The Bible also says that you shouldn't wear two kinds of cloth woven together and that anyone who is even slightly disabled should not be a priest. That doesn't mean that we have ot do as it says! A lot of the rules in the Bible apply to stuff that happened thousands of years ago. It's just not relevant. Plus, a lot of it contradicts itself.

I say gay marriage is fine by me. Chop off the Jesus fingers!
smile
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:35 pm


I think everyone should be able to lead the lives they want without being bothered, unless of course their actions are physically enabling someone else to live.

Just a little diversion though, didn't want to start a new topic as it fits in here, if you're gay and want to get married is it the service you want (which is christian and says you shouldn't get married) or is it just the meaning of getting married and pledging you life to someone?

Lime Green Snail


Redem
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:31 am


Lime Green Snail
I think everyone should be able to lead the lives they want without being bothered, unless of course their actions are physically enabling someone else to live.

Just a little diversion though, didn't want to start a new topic as it fits in here, if you're gay and want to get married is it the service you want (which is christian and says you shouldn't get married) or is it just the meaning of getting married and pledging you life to someone?

I would guess that it's a combination of the legal priveledges and social acceptance of married couples. Along with the desire to publicly declare their devotion in the accepted manner.
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