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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:15 am


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Hey I always liked the Hiru/Masanori team and the system looks more and more like it's goig to be awesome! Would you be open to have them defect to Konoha together to keep doing missions here while on the hunt from bounty hunters or do bizzaro world versions of them that were always in Konoha?
Oooooo! I definitely throw my vote for the missing-nin scenario!


*Cough* You know how the rest of us are having to make new characters? How about you guys be team players and join in that party. Those characters will still be in Kiri if you ever want to pick them up again, but make two new characters for a new team for Konoha.

Also, Move the Aburame clan to the approvals forum so that it can be critiqued when it is finished.


Oh don't be a spoilsport, it's a possibility that's open to everyone! Priority is getting people active! Of course stats have to be rerolled to comply with the unifomized stat calculation from the presentation thread so they'll be nerfed quite a bit...

Speaking of which, you can start posting profiles in the shinobi scroll, after I've finished the slums I'll focus on posting missions for people to pick up!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:59 am


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Oh don't be a spoilsport, it's a possibility that's open to everyone! Priority is getting people active! Of course stats have to be rerolled to comply with the unifomized stat calculation from the presentation thread so they'll be nerfed quite a bit...

Speaking of which, you can start posting profiles in the shinobi scroll, after I've finished the slums I'll focus on posting missions for people to pick up!


And the Hoshigaki clan would be oh so happy to have you abandon their village with their most sacred item.

And what do you mean presentation thread?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:00 am


Hoshigaki Hiru
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Hey I always liked the Hiru/Masanori team and the system looks more and more like it's goig to be awesome! Would you be open to have them defect to Konoha together to keep doing missions here while on the hunt from bounty hunters or do bizzaro world versions of them that were always in Konoha?
Oooooo! I definitely throw my vote for the missing-nin scenario!


*Cough* You know how the rest of us are having to make new characters? How about you guys be team players and join in that party. Those characters will still be in Kiri if you ever want to pick them up again, but make two new characters for a new team for Konoha.

Also, Move the Aburame clan to the approvals forum so that it can be critiqued when it is finished.


Oh don't be a spoilsport, it's a possibility that's open to everyone! Priority is getting people active! Of course stats have to be rerolled to comply with the unifomized stat calculation from the presentation thread so they'll be nerfed quite a bit...

Speaking of which, you can start posting profiles in the shinobi scroll, after I've finished the slums I'll focus on posting missions for people to pick up!
Cool! So should we begin in Kirigakure and travel from there or start here in Konoha?

Oh and yeah, as Pup said, if you could move it that would be great. I don't belong in the Directory crying
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:04 am


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Oh don't be a spoilsport, it's a possibility that's open to everyone! Priority is getting people active! Of course stats have to be rerolled to comply with the unifomized stat calculation from the presentation thread so they'll be nerfed quite a bit...

Speaking of which, you can start posting profiles in the shinobi scroll, after I've finished the slums I'll focus on posting missions for people to pick up!


And the Hoshigaki clan would be oh so happy to have you abandon their village with their most sacred item.

And what do you mean presentation thread?


I think he means this part from here.

[BETA] Start of the tour of the new Konohagakure

6. Aleternative method of creating and managing characters

1. Unique methode of calculation for starting stat and skill points for all characters

Creating a jounin from scratch now won't put you leagues away from other characters that levelled up to that point. The formulas will be pretty simple:

Stats: 6 base points + (Level x 3) to distribute.
Skills: (Level x 10) + 10, all to distribute.

2. Stats and skills cannot be trained

Your character is the way he or she is and will remain as is until he or she levels up. Jutsus still have to be trained in the same manner as in any other villages but will not grant additional stats or skills.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:35 am


Thats what i feared. While I am all about weakening the people who just made a level 20 jonin in comparison to those that trained their stats, I have spent nearly four years clawing my way from level 1 to 16. And while i support the combat based exp, stat and skill training need to continue to be options, otherwise we need to reformat EVERY SINGLE JUTSU in this ENTIRE guild. Not fun.

Id rather stay in kiri and just keep the 7 of us around then flush four years of work for noobs to be happy.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:17 am


Maybe we don't have to change the jutsus that much? I think if we put our beautiful, nerdy minds together, anything is possible! *Sprinkles glitter over Pupsage*

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:36 am


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Maybe we don't have to change the jutsus that much? I think if we put our beautiful, nerdy minds together, anything is possible! *Sprinkles glitter over Pupsage*

wink

Or we can just keep skill and stat training around.

Otherwise we will have a bunch of one trick ponies. The only possible way to branch out is if you make a purely weapon/taijutsu character, then you can be good at one other thing. But ninjutsu and genjutsu users have to spend most of their skill points on Chakra control and their primary skill, and god forbid you learn any technique with an under utilized skill as a prerequisite.
Chakra sensor? Are you sure you want to blow 15 points on concentration?
Rope Binding? Sleight of hand doesn't come up often.
Dokugiri? What the hell are you going to do with that many points in alchemy, not to mention that INT score.
What do you mean the medic nin only had enough points to get chakra control, medic jutsu, and some taijutsu? You mean that he has no ranks in Treat Injury? Well once he runs out of chakra he will be useless.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:37 am


Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:03 pm


Dimi Deiod
Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin


And he can coax/manipulate his not always so bright partner to dive into the fights he picks xd
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:58 pm


Dimi Deiod
Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin


Nay, what I am saying that I want is what I have now, a character who is great at a few things and mediocre at a few others. Jutsu users will have to waste 2/5 of their points (I did the math) just to keep abreast of the requirements. And that is just the chakra control and other related skill.
You can have 4 skills maxed out at my level and 1 about 2/3 maxed out. Thats it ... That is all I can get on this new system, but I still have 54 skill points that I toiled and worked for. Why should somebody that just waltzed into the guild yesterday be able to make a character that is the exact same as mine? Its a simple concept, come to our roleplaying guild and roleplay, work your but off and be stronger than the others, you earned it.

AND I want you guys to stick to your word. Don't go recruiting us all to abandon our characters and chicken out last second its bull and doesn't make since with cannon. You think that its an option for everyone? No its not, all of these "transfer students" and stuff is just to accommodate people, but realistically speaking a ninja village isn't going to be all like "Yeah, come into our village and see our secret jutsu" any more than the Hoshigaki clan would be fine with Hiru going missing-nin with their prized sword. Realistically you would have the entirity of the ANBU and Hoshigaki clan hunting him down to get that sword back because without the original they can't make the copies.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:31 pm


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Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin


Nay, what I am saying that I want is what I have now, a character who is great at a few things and mediocre at a few others. Jutsu users will have to waste 2/5 of their points (I did the math) just to keep abreast of the requirements. And that is just the chakra control and other related skill.
You can have 4 skills maxed out at my level and 1 about 2/3 maxed out. Thats it ... That is all I can get on this new system, but I still have 54 skill points that I toiled and worked for. Why should somebody that just waltzed into the guild yesterday be able to make a character that is the exact same as mine? Its a simple concept, come to our roleplaying guild and roleplay, work your but off and be stronger than the others, you earned it.

AND I want you guys to stick to your word. Don't go recruiting us all to abandon our characters and chicken out last second its bull and doesn't make since with cannon. You think that its an option for everyone? No its not, all of these "transfer students" and stuff is just to accommodate people, but realistically speaking a ninja village isn't going to be all like "Yeah, come into our village and see our secret jutsu" any more than the Hoshigaki clan would be fine with Hiru going missing-nin with their prized sword. Realistically you would have the entirity of the ANBU and Hoshigaki clan hunting him down to get that sword back because without the original they can't make the copies.
I think Hiru mentioned in the Question/Suggestion thread, when he asked for help from all of us, that it is an option to magically transport your characters from other villages. We didn't chicken out! gonk
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:40 pm


Dimi Deiod
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Dimi Deiod
Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin


Nay, what I am saying that I want is what I have now, a character who is great at a few things and mediocre at a few others. Jutsu users will have to waste 2/5 of their points (I did the math) just to keep abreast of the requirements. And that is just the chakra control and other related skill.
You can have 4 skills maxed out at my level and 1 about 2/3 maxed out. Thats it ... That is all I can get on this new system, but I still have 54 skill points that I toiled and worked for. Why should somebody that just waltzed into the guild yesterday be able to make a character that is the exact same as mine? Its a simple concept, come to our roleplaying guild and roleplay, work your but off and be stronger than the others, you earned it.

AND I want you guys to stick to your word. Don't go recruiting us all to abandon our characters and chicken out last second its bull and doesn't make since with cannon. You think that its an option for everyone? No its not, all of these "transfer students" and stuff is just to accommodate people, but realistically speaking a ninja village isn't going to be all like "Yeah, come into our village and see our secret jutsu" any more than the Hoshigaki clan would be fine with Hiru going missing-nin with their prized sword. Realistically you would have the entirity of the ANBU and Hoshigaki clan hunting him down to get that sword back because without the original they can't make the copies.
I think Hiru mentioned in the Question/Suggestion thread, when he asked for help from all of us, that it is an option to magically transport your characters from other villages. We didn't chicken out! gonk


He said to make an alternate reality version of your character. Hoshigaki in Konoha is not what I gathered from that statement.

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Hoshigaki Hiru
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:17 pm


Quite honestly, I understand why canon wise it might not be something we'd see in the manga, but RP wise I don't think people will care so much; or at all for that matter... If anything it'll give us an opportunity to test out the "bounty" aspect of the system since it's clear our dynamic duo would have an incredible bounty on their heads!

If it ruins the experience for people I don't mind not doing it; but having made a summoning contract, custom jutsus, custom weapon, limit, and etc for a character, I don't feel the best use of anyone's time right now is doing the whole thing again anew with another character..

Then again maybe I'm just projecting here because I really wouldn't care at all that people bring in characters from other villages...
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:48 am


Hoshigaki Hiru
Dimi Deiod
Well.. As I am understanding your argument, it sounds like you want to create a character that is good in both support and fighting. I think that is unreasonable. I mean.. If my character, as a highly developed Cha character, would ever get into confrontation with a opponent who had a high Wis and high Dex and Str - he would be toast and that is fine! Masanori needs people to protect him until he reaches a social situation where he can shine. biggrin


And he can coax/manipulate his not always so bright partner to dive into the fights he picks xd
Exactly!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:52 pm


crying This is crap.

Right now I have 152 stat points. In the new system I get 90
And I have 204 skill points now, but new system gives me 170.

Skill points I can get over, but my entire concept is based on having one jutsu, and its requirements would leave me with 4 stats at the base of 6, giving me three negative stats. Everyone is voting down just because they don't like doing stat training, but what they don't realize is that even the newbies who just made characters yesterday are losing 20 stat points on Hiru's proposed rules for the Beta system. If you don't like doing training, don't do it. Simple as that. It should still be an option for people to do though because as often as this guild washes in and out on activity it would be nice to be able to do something by yourself.
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