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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:17 pm
I don't mind running campaigns of mixed alignments, partly because I believe God can bring good out of any situation... my only issue with it is, normally my campaigns are the players know each other before the game. Or at very least, know enough of the others to be a semi-functional team and are not likely to kill each other. Maybe run out and leave one of the members to face the dragon alone... but not directly kill...
Some of my favorite campaigns, are where one of the players were evil.
Any how..back to topic. I think my biggest things against sex and pornography is one of jealousy. Despite my best efforts, I haven't had that kind of relationship. I don't mean just a sexual one, but even boyfriend/girlfriend one. Everyone seems to blow off my own attempts to ask them out. Leaving only the second...
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:35 pm
Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it?
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:05 pm
MurrieGee Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it? I've never understood the very real hatred towards homosexuality. There are plenty of arguments against religious prejudice against homosexuality. The topic has been done to death. Most importantly, I wonder why so many Christians act as if Homosexuality was the only thing Christ cared about. Sexuality in generally I find to be fantastic, but must be kept between consenting, monogamous couples. It's a fine line between a healthy sex life and sexual immorality, but the line is determined mostly by common sense.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:02 pm
MurrieGee Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it? Matt pretty much said what I was going to say. The "Adam and Steve" argument is really doesn't hold water with me since I don't take Genesis as literal. Adam and Eve are the archetypal person representing two fundamental parts of the mind working in synergy. I don't believe homosexuality or any sexual orientation to be a sin nor do I believe sex between consenting adults to be a sin.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:35 pm
Southern_cross_nemesis Any how..back to topic. I think my biggest things against sex and pornography is one of jealousy. Despite my best efforts, I haven't had that kind of relationship. I don't mean just a sexual one, but even boyfriend/girlfriend one. Everyone seems to blow off my own attempts to ask them out. Leaving only the second... I think I relate with you on this. I'll share with you some advice a dear friend shared with me I wish I had taken a bit more seriously. Don't look for a boy/girlfriend. Look for a friend and work from there. If you are inviting someone out because you want them to be your boy/girlfriend then what different is it then paying someone for sex? The trick though that will at least get you respect points if nothing else is to just be yourself around the person you are trying to attract. I know it sound cheesy but in reality most people where masks and try to bullshit each other. Just think how refreshing it must be too see someone actually being genuine and think about how nice it'd be to be around someone that you can be yourself around. You can't do that if you impressed them with bullshit, masks, and lies and any sort of relationship built on a lie will not last long. You might want to focus your single time on figuring out who you are and what you want out of life. Talk with strangers and get to know them as friends. Another helpful idea is to put yourself in the selector position. Instead of thinking "what do I have to do to impress them or to accept me", try "What do they have to do to impress me, or for me to accept them?"
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:35 pm
rmcdra I think I relate with you on this. I'll share with you some advice a dear friend shared with me I wish I had taken a bit more seriously. Don't look for a boy/girlfriend. Look for a friend and work from there. If you are inviting someone out because you want them to be your boy/girlfriend then what different is it then paying someone for sex? The trick though that will at least get you respect points if nothing else is to just be yourself around the person you are trying to attract. I know it sound cheesy but in reality most people where masks and try to bullshit each other. Just think how refreshing it must be too see someone actually being genuine and think about how nice it'd be to be around someone that you can be yourself around. You can't do that if you impressed them with bullshit, masks, and lies and any sort of relationship built on a lie will not last long. I have destroyed almost every mask I held. I lost so many of my best friends, because of lies. I will not make that mistake again. Eh... When I said out, I was more meaning just hang out. It was never intended to be more than friends. Out of everyone, I asked, only one group of people said yes... sadly, I had to say no, because of standing issues at the time. Since then, there has been an anti get-to-know field around me. Quote: You might want to focus your single time on figuring out who you are and what you want out of life. Talk with strangers and get to know them as friends. Easier said than done for me, I write far better than I speak. I am normally the quiet guy in the back of the classroom, or crowd. That people only talk to when they have a question about homework or the like. And when I try to talk to them, the conversation normally flows that way any how... Quote: Another helpful idea is to put yourself in the selector position. Instead of thinking "what do I have to do to impress them or to accept me", try "What do they have to do to impress me, or for me to accept them?" I will try, this one... Though, I am starting to wonder if God, intended for me to be alone.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:17 am
your still young, you still have tons of time to find someone. my fiance was 26 when we met, and plenty of people meet someone when they're much older than that
@MurrieGee
god loves us all. personally i dont believe any orientation is a sin, but if it is thats between me and god and no one on earth has the authority to tell me wether or not im going to hell for it. live and let live, let god sort out the gays and straights
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:17 am
Southern_cross_nemesis I have destroyed almost every mask I held. I lost so many of my best friends, because of lies. I will not make that mistake again. Eh... When I said out, I was more meaning just hang out. It was never intended to be more than friends. Out of everyone, I asked, only one group of people said yes... sadly, I had to say no, because of standing issues at the time. Since then, there has been an anti get-to-know field around me. An idea for meeting new people would be trying some volunteer work in your local are or find a common interest club, like an anime or book discussion group for example. Any sort of market setting is an area where you can start a conversation and discussion "props" are easy to come by. Back when I was in Louisiana, the easiest way to start a conversation was to talk about cooking. Don't put yourself in situations you aren't normally going to enjoy either. I don't like night clubs, so I'm not going to a club to pick up girls. It's not my interest. Quote: Easier said than done for me, I write far better than I speak. I am normally the quiet guy in the back of the classroom, or crowd. That people only talk to when they have a question about homework or the like. And when I try to talk to them, the conversation normally flows that way any how... Try starting a conversation about an interest, either something you like or they like. If a conversation about that can't be held then it's probably not a relationship you'd want. Jokes can be a nice icebreaker. The idea is that you are comfortable with yourself and a comfortable conversation should reflect that. If they don't want to talk with you about something you are comfortable about then you probably aren't going to get along with them. Again markets and libraries are an easy area to set up conversation since there is always a prop of some kind. Quote: I will try, this one... Though, I am starting to wonder if God, intended for me to be alone. I'd give it a shot at least. Maybe, maybe not, that's not my call and personally it sounds like a "sour grapes" argument right now. As Shanna66 said you still have tons of time so going to that stance right now at this point in your life is kinda selling yourself short. If you don't mind me asking, why are you wanting a deeper relationship with someone, particularly a romantic one? This is not an attack but more of a self-reflection question so you don't have to share the answer here and I don't expect you to. What is so important about hooking up with someone? Are they going to provide something that you don't think you have? These are some questions to think about. Back when I was first dating it was initially because I was insecure and because I wanted someone to validate me. This caused me lots of problems in dating. I had to let go of this idea that someone has to validate me to feel special and needed because I was being so self-centered and neglected getting to know the person I was trying to date. Now I'm not saying that you are doing this by any means, I'm just sharing something about myself where I ran into snags in my life and if anyone reading this is in that boat, they don't make the same mistake.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:34 am
I didn't take it as an attack, and I don't mind answering your first question. Quote: why are you wanting a deeper relationship with someone, particularly a romantic one? It is more that, I want the deeper relationship, not so much of the romantic one. I want to experience that, I have always been distant with people. And well, I just want to know how having that kind of relationship feels likem and know that it is shared with another human being. I know how it feels with God, or so I think, I do. So, simply put, curiosity...
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:32 am
Southern_cross_nemesis I didn't take it as an attack, and I don't mind answering your first question. Quote: why are you wanting a deeper relationship with someone, particularly a romantic one? It is more that, I want the deeper relationship, not so much of the romantic one. I want to experience that, I have always been distant with people. And well, I just want to know how having that kind of relationship feels likem and know that it is shared with another human being. I know how it feels with God, or so I think, I do. So, simply put, curiosity... Then put yourself on the line and be yourself. Think about the things you enjoy doing and go where others are doing those things you enjoy. Make friends with those people. A deeper relationship will come in time and takes practice, have patience. You can't force it to happen. It takes trust building and you may get burned but that is the risk of having a deeper relationship because it requires you to open yourself up to others. Learning body language signals might be helpful too. Someone may be trying to open up to you but unable to put it into words themselves.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:52 am
MurrieGee Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it?
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:47 am
freelance lover MurrieGee Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it? Alright, My two cents time... Don't hate me for them... they are not shiny... razz Alright, the books of Bible was written by men, where their was women followers of Jesus, who wrote, but the monks that put all the books together, back in the Roman empire, decided to leave those books out. Which in my option, wasn't the smartest idea. But because the books that did make it in was those that was written by men, they was on the fears and concerns of men at the time of their scribe. Homosexuality, was one of those fears. How can you trust the guy next to you if he is eying you? There is also, the fear of being raped/sodomized. Eh... Those are my thoughts, take them... leave them... shoot them with a cheese shredder... I don't care.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:51 pm
Southern_cross_nemesis freelance lover MurrieGee Since we're talking about sex, I want to ask you guys view on sexuality. I was raised up that I didn't hear about Bi's or lesbian until I came to the United States. I could never imagine Adam with another Adam or Eve with another Eve. But now I have alot of gay friends. Christ says not to judge and I don't at all. But my bestfriend is bi and I've seen pastors on tv that are gay. Is it wrong.? What do you guys think about it? Alright, My two cents time... Don't hate me for them... they are not shiny... razz Alright, the books of Bible was written by men, where their was women followers of Jesus, who wrote, but the monks that put all the books together, back in the Roman empire, decided to leave those books out. Which in my option, wasn't the smartest idea. But because the books that did make it in was those that was written by men, they was on the fears and concerns of men at the time of their scribe. Homosexuality, was one of those fears. How can you trust the guy next to you if he is eying you? There is also, the fear of being raped/sodomized. Eh... Those are my thoughts, take them... leave them... shoot them with a cheese shredder... I don't care. Not exactly. Homosexual sex in Hebrew thought was seen as ritually unclean and a perversion of the gift of God's creative power given to humans (procreation). Next homosexual sex back then was regarded as a power play. Nobles/Kings could use sex as a way to demonstrate dominance. In Roman thought, homosexual sex was viewed as a lack of self-control and those on the receiving end were viewed and less than men. The Hebrew's view on homosexual just added fuel to the fire and reinforced this view that the Romans held. It should be mentioned that the Bible in it's entirety only addresses homosexual sex like 0.00001%, or something like that. I think it's only like 11 verses or something like that. Some of the heretical scriptures address the topic of homosexual sex but more of to reinforce the Sethian view that sex was a creation of an evil false god bent on keeping us enslaved to him and sexual pleasure was one of his trappings. Homosexual was viewed the same as heterosexual acts though I would think homosexual sex might have been seen as the lesser of two evils since it didn't produce babies. Most of the sexual language used in the heretical scriptures were metaphorical and allegorical, kinda like the Song of Solomon.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:35 pm
Sorry, not much to contribute with the scripture bit. Just figured I'd give my two cents all the same.
I never have much trouble making friends or developing relationships. The problem I have is when I'm in a relationship, or even some friendships, and the person/people I'm with start taking me for granted. Simple things like respect sometimes go out the window and people can be very expectant of a lot of things.
And I'm kind of in with what Southern_cross was saying about fear in the writings. Even if I can buy that God's word is actually in there somewhere, I can't seem to bring myself to believe that without accepting that people also had their way with it. If I believe that all of the Bible is purely God's word in its entirety, then I feel I'm also subjecting God to the diminutive mindset of man, and thus feel as if I'd be insulting him at the same time. Maybe out of place, but it's just a feeling anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:03 pm
In my eyes the bible is a tool, to get to understand him first. ... in a way. But to limit him to the pages of that book, is like limiting the earth to a pamphlet. You can get an idea, but you will never get a full understanding of Earth if all you read is that pamphlet.
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