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Alrenn

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:40 pm


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I also dated someone who I had become friends with who was born male, but was transgender (right term?).
Transgendered is the most widely accepted term. To me it usually seems more polite to address someone as a trans woman or a trans man because what sex they're born with isn't as important as their identity.
Individual trans people may have a preference so it's always best to ask the person you're talking to how they feel about labels.

I'm FTM, and I'd much rather have people call me a trans man than make it more complicated than it really is. I've met one or two people who get really finicky about labels, but I prefer to keep my public identity as simple as possible.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:46 pm


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I don't really consider myself bi since my attraction to men seems to be more infrequent than common, but I acknowledge that I do have these feelings.


When it comes to bisexuality, there are a couple things that are used in sexual psychology that might help:

The classic is the Kinsey Scale and then there is more than one kind of "bisexual".

This this the Kinsey Scale-
0– Completely straight
1 – Mainly straight, very little gay behaviour/interest (curious)
2 – Mostly straight, more than incidentally homosexual
3 – interested in both sexes equally or relatively equally
4 – Mostly gay, more than incidentally heterosexual
5 – Mainly gay, very little straight behaviour/interest
6 – Completely Gay

These are some different commonly accepted types of bisexuality:

Alternating Bisexuals – Monogamous people who switch between the men and women in their serial monogamy.

Balanced Bisexuals – This is what most people think of when they think of bisexuals- people who can have romantic and sexual relationships with people who are either men or women. This always struck me more like an unbrella term because it can be applied to people in other groups because some of these kinds of bisexuals deal with relationship models.

Concurrent relationship bisexuals – Poly people who have relationships with men and women at the same time.

Conditional Bisexuals – People who wouldn't normally be bi- but their situation makes them bi, (think prision, same sex boarding schools, that dessert island after a 3 hour tour and stuff)

Emotional bisexuals – People who fall in love with men and women but only have sex with one.

Motivational bisexuals – People who have sex with men and women for personal gain- like someone who is gay or lesbian who marries someone of the opposite sex to protect themselves or get medical benefits, a celebrity who wants to increase their LGBT base, Barsexuals and people like that.

Sex-Only Bisexuals – This is the opposite of Emotional Bisexuals- they can have sex with men and women- but only form relationships with one.

Transitional Bisexuals – People who are Bi while exploring their identity as someone who is gay/lesbian.

Bicanthrope runs the Bisexual guild and this was in one of her posts.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:55 pm


I'd say I'm a 1 or 2 but as to which type of bisexual. I think I'd be an alternating bisexual or a conditional bisexual. I'm not really sure, these labels are kinda new to me so I don't want to describe myself falsely.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:34 pm


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I'd say I'm a 1 or 2 but as to which type of bisexual. I think I'd be an alternating bisexual or a conditional bisexual. I'm not really sure, these labels are kinda new to me so I don't want to describe myself falsely.
I don't think there's any need to rush. 3nodding
I posted it because it's kind of interesting and besides- I think people can change over the course of their life.

Alrenn

I'm FTM, and I'd much rather have people call me a trans man than make it more complicated than it really is. I've met one or two people who get really finicky about labels, but I prefer to keep my public identity as simple as possible.

I've met a few who are really finicky- some of it I can understand, some of it has devolved into being complete jerks. Most trans people I know aren't finicky though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:04 pm


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I'd say I'm a 1 or 2 but as to which type of bisexual. I think I'd be an alternating bisexual or a conditional bisexual. I'm not really sure, these labels are kinda new to me so I don't want to describe myself falsely.
I don't think there's any need to rush. 3nodding
I posted it because it's kind of interesting and besides- I think people can change over the course of their life.
Ah okay. And thank you for sharing that info.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:09 pm


The Kinsey report says that one in five men in Alabama has had sex with a chicken.

The Kinsey report is awesome. Also I loved that movie. Liam Neeson. heart

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:31 pm


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Ah okay. And thank you for sharing that info.
Glad it was interesting.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:00 pm


You know, I've heard a fair bit about the Kinsey report but I've never read it. I think I might like to.

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Alrenn

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:23 pm


Yeah, I second CalledTheRaven on the Kinsey report. I've never read it, although I've heard it mentioned several times. It sounds like it would be a really interesting and useful read.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:44 pm


I think of it as one of those "basic must reads at one point" kind of things- some of it's outdated, some of it wasn't accurate because a lot of it used report interviews- and people aren't always honest.

The sample was also pretty small. It's interesting- and it laid the groundwork for parts of the sexual revolution. 3nodding
But if people wanted to be taken seriously today- the research methods would have to change I think.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:45 pm


I was born female, and I am genderqueer (meaning I flow between masculinity and femininity) and I'm bisexual. I was on my way to indentifying myself as a transman and planning to undergo correctional chest surgury at one point. I was very confused and felt I needed to chose between one or the other and my High Priestess pulled me out of it before I did something I would regret. It took awhile but I was able to tap back into my inner goddess so to speak and connect with femininity once more. I like to balance things between feminine deity and masculine deity now while most of my female sisters of the craft concentrate more on the Goddess.
I was once in a ply relationship and found out one person does enough for me...having more than one guy at the same time with their consent seems nice at first but it's too much work. lol
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:12 pm


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I was born female, and I am genderqueer (meaning I flow between masculinity and femininity) and I'm bisexual.
That's interesting- I've usually seen genderqueer used as a general term that includes people who are non-binary, gender fluid, agendered and some other gender identities and expressions- have you come across the term gender fluid before?

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I was once in a ply relationship and found out one person does enough for me...having more than one guy at the same time with their consent seems nice at first but it's too much work. lol

In my experience any mono-relationship that doesn't have good teamwork can be more work than a poly-relationship that does. And poly isn't about partners "doing enough" as much as it's about hearts falling in love. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:44 pm


Esiris

In my experience any mono-relationship that doesn't have good teamwork can be more work than a poly-relationship that does. And poly isn't about partners "doing enough" as much as it's about hearts falling in love. sweatdrop


Yes I've heard of the term. And I know,I was being playful about it. My whole reason to end it was that it didn't feel right to me. I'm a mono-relationship person all the way.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:09 pm


Baba Faye

Yes I've heard of the term. And I know,I was being playful about it. My whole reason to end it was that it didn't feel right to me. I'm a mono-relationship person all the way.
I can understand that. 3nodding

If it isn't too personal- do you dislike the term gender fluid?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:39 pm


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Yes I've heard of the term. And I know,I was being playful about it. My whole reason to end it was that it didn't feel right to me. I'm a mono-relationship person all the way.
I can understand that. 3nodding

If it isn't too personal- do you dislike the term gender fluid?


It's not that I dislike it, I guess I just didn't check into it like I should have. Because it's kinda extreme...they'll be days I'm fine and dandy and girly then the next day I'm going through major dysaphoria and wishing I could pass as male like I did last year. There was a..comfort when others called me by my chosen name and male pronouns. It tends to switch on and off..
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