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 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:49 pm
Cudboy It's sad to say that whenever I wax lyrical about something as fundementally important as honour, most people's eyes glaze over as their countenance takes on a representative expression of "WTF?!" sad And yet, if you ask me, the best Transformers scenarios are the ones that don't feature a clear-cut delineation between good and evil - ambiguity of agenda leads to greater conflict, dramatically speaking. Politics can be particularly clandestine in nature; a soldier at least follows his orders, whether for better or worse, but a self-serving politician...? And it's true; cowards bare arms, while heroes rely on wit. 3nodding Who will win? Father Time will ultimately be the judge, I guess, as Fate plays her final hand. Are the meek truly capable of inheriting the world? Debate is the purist battlefield known to man, so such a shame it is that this concourse is so rarely turned to; so much easier is it to pull a trigger than to contemplate one's own opinion (or that of another). And as I always love to remind people, "no-one wins a war... somebody loses". neutral
This thing, all things it devours
Birds, beast, tress and flowers.
Bites iron, nalls steal
Grin hard stone to mill.
Slays kings, ruins towns
Bring high mountain down.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:55 pm
GAH! It was a book some 40 years before it was a movie!
As far as conflict goes...well, I do not believe conflict itself is inherently bad, nor is it inherently good. It can certainly be productive - a conflict of opinions can lead to better understanding for both parties. On the other hand, a conflict escalated into war can be a very bad thing for all involved. Conflict for conflict's sake, however, is, in my opinion, an unforunate state of affairs.
And I agree with Cudboy, moral ambiguity is far more dramatically compelling. That's what made the Beast era writing so great, even if you don't like how it all turned out in the end.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:15 am
I loved Beast Wars and my favourite was always terrorsaur-that is until he died in the episode with the quantum wave that turned evryone into transmetals. My favourite Maximal had to be Blackarachnia.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:16 am
rockmanx Cudboy It's sad to say that whenever I wax lyrical about something as fundementally important as honour, most people's eyes glaze over as their countenance takes on a representative expression of "WTF?!" sad And yet, if you ask me, the best Transformers scenarios are the ones that don't feature a clear-cut delineation between good and evil - ambiguity of agenda leads to greater conflict, dramatically speaking. Politics can be particularly clandestine in nature; a soldier at least follows his orders, whether for better or worse, but a self-serving politician...? And it's true; cowards bare arms, while heroes rely on wit. 3nodding Who will win? Father Time will ultimately be the judge, I guess, as Fate plays her final hand. Are the meek truly capable of inheriting the world? Debate is the purist battlefield known to man, so such a shame it is that this concourse is so rarely turned to; so much easier is it to pull a trigger than to contemplate one's own opinion (or that of another). And as I always love to remind people, "no-one wins a war... somebody loses". neutral
This thing, all things it devours
Birds, beast, tress and flowers.
Bites iron, nalls steal
Grin hard stone to mill.
Slays kings, ruins towns
Bring high mountain down. where did you get Angemon for your siggie?
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:17 am
Did you just watch the first season or the all of them?
Beast wars, G1, and Armada are my three favorites. It is hard to choose a favorite between them.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:53 pm
Armada? o.o
No offense, but I find it hard to understand how anyone could consider Armada a favorite.
But that's my opinion. I think they ruined what could have been a good storyline plot with the minicons.
Hasbro needs to take some fan input in these shows it keeps belching forth.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:28 pm
the game for armada was great it did ever thing that the show f***** up and it was so britty compard to the showi cant seem to beat Unicron may be i dont want to cuz hes so cool
*Kikaryu Edited*
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:35 pm
Aquila15 rockmanx Cudboy It's sad to say that whenever I wax lyrical about something as fundementally important as honour, most people's eyes glaze over as their countenance takes on a representative expression of "WTF?!" sad And yet, if you ask me, the best Transformers scenarios are the ones that don't feature a clear-cut delineation between good and evil - ambiguity of agenda leads to greater conflict, dramatically speaking. Politics can be particularly clandestine in nature; a soldier at least follows his orders, whether for better or worse, but a self-serving politician...? And it's true; cowards bare arms, while heroes rely on wit. 3nodding Who will win? Father Time will ultimately be the judge, I guess, as Fate plays her final hand. Are the meek truly capable of inheriting the world? Debate is the purist battlefield known to man, so such a shame it is that this concourse is so rarely turned to; so much easier is it to pull a trigger than to contemplate one's own opinion (or that of another). And as I always love to remind people, "no-one wins a war... somebody loses". neutral
This thing, all things it devours
Birds, beast, tress and flowers.
Bites iron, nalls steal
Grin hard stone to mill.
Slays kings, ruins towns
Bring high mountain down. where did you get Angemon for your siggie?
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:38 pm
Yamato1 Armada? o.o No offense, but I find it hard to understand how anyone could consider Armada a favorite. But that's my opinion. I think they ruined what could have been a good storyline plot with the minicons. Hasbro needs to take some fan input in these shows it keeps belching forth. I guess cause I wasn't around to watch G1 first. I saw Beast Wars then Armada, then went back to G1.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:41 pm
Pharaoh Anubis Yamato1 Armada? o.o No offense, but I find it hard to understand how anyone could consider Armada a favorite. But that's my opinion. I think they ruined what could have been a good storyline plot with the minicons. Hasbro needs to take some fan input in these shows it keeps belching forth. I guess cause I wasn't around to watch G1 first. I saw Beast Wars then Armada, then went back to G1. Ok, fair enough.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:42 pm
Yamato1 Armada? o.o No offense, but I find it hard to understand how anyone could consider Armada a favorite. But that's my opinion. I think they ruined what could have been a good storyline plot with the minicons. Hasbro needs to take some fan input in these shows it keeps belching forth.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:45 pm
rockmanx Yamato1 Armada? o.o No offense, but I find it hard to understand how anyone could consider Armada a favorite. But that's my opinion. I think they ruined what could have been a good storyline plot with the minicons. Hasbro needs to take some fan input in these shows it keeps belching forth. Perhaps I should have clarified. Usually when I say I don't like a series, I'm mostly talking about the show. Robot Designs were great. That's the only saving grace for the last 4 TF series.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:52 pm
Adib GAH! It was a book some 40 years before it was a movie! As far as conflict goes...well, I do not believe conflict itself is inherently bad, nor is it inherently good. It can certainly be productive - a conflict of opinions can lead to better understanding for both parties. On the other hand, a conflict escalated into war can be a very bad thing for all involved. Conflict for conflict's sake, however, is, in my opinion, an unforunate state of affairs. And I agree with Cudboy, moral ambiguity is far more dramatically compelling. That's what made the Beast era writing so great, even if you don't like how it all turned out in the end.
Even when Dinobot was going to overthrough Megatron, he didn't hide in the shadows about it like the other Preds did.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:57 pm
Terrasaur did almost completely destroy Megatron once, but he did wait till he was super charged with energon.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:00 pm
Pharaoh Anubis Terrasaur did almost completely destroy Megatron once, but he did wait till he was super charged with energon.
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