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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:15 pm


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i sense lobotomies becoming a popular "treatment" again. Studies like this tend to end that way.


I think that the social implications are more profound. Can you punish these people for their actions when they have a recognized problem with their brains? It's hard to say that they did the crime of their own free will when it's been shown that they have abnormal brain activity which is apparently beyond their control.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:30 pm


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http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100926_badboys

i sense lobotomies becoming a popular "treatment" again. Studies like this tend to end that way.


I think that the social implications are more profound. Can you punish these people for their actions when they have a recognized problem with their brains? It's hard to say that they did the crime of their own free will when it's been shown that they have abnormal brain activity which is apparently beyond their control.


many of the organizers today were of the same school of thought that promoted eugenics and lobotomies prior to WWII.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:43 pm


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http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100926_badboys

i sense lobotomies becoming a popular "treatment" again. Studies like this tend to end that way.


I think that the social implications are more profound. Can you punish these people for their actions when they have a recognized problem with their brains? It's hard to say that they did the crime of their own free will when it's been shown that they have abnormal brain activity which is apparently beyond their control.


many of the organizers today were of the same school of thought that promoted eugenics and lobotomies prior to WWII.


I like to think that now we have ethics committees that stop that kind of thing. It took a placebo researcher almost ten years just to get approval to have a control group in a nocebo study.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:14 am


Free will is what the Lord gave us.

The rose in spring


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:50 am


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Possibly. The human form is the most complex of all forms. We are the only species that has begun to study others using incredible sciences and processes that no other beings "seem" capable of. We could be all the product of one greater "true" self or the spawn of that greater power that still oversees our actions. This greater form would be the closest thing to God we have and are.

Humans are amazing and smart despite how dull and retarded we become sometimes.

Maybe is you research for the existence of an inner self of greater power, you might find some interesting things giving you the information needed to manipulate that true self into doing incredible feats. Maybe this is the truth behind mental and physic powers. Maybe they are merely the pure will of that true self. Too many "maybe"s, not enough "for sure"s.



I think I want a true self now...and psionic powers. ninja


Who doesn't want psionic powers? lol
It's becoming a fad now. I just hope we reach them first before the fad runs out.


It is? Can you give me an example?
Examples would be all the most recent action games and action movies. Almost every single one has some sort of physic this or psionic that. Like Scott Pilgrim, Push, Oblivion, and that new movie with Matt Daimon.


Movies and games featuring those things don't really seem to me to be any more common than they were five or even ten years ago.
Five and ten years ago, they weren't as popular, now every game has some form of it. I've noticed that a lot of roleplayers seem to love precognition and clairvoyance most of all. Psychic powers are becoming more popular but in a fad-like way. Once one does it, they all do it.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:40 pm


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It's becoming a fad now. I just hope we reach them first before the fad runs out.


It is? Can you give me an example?
Examples would be all the most recent action games and action movies. Almost every single one has some sort of physic this or psionic that. Like Scott Pilgrim, Push, Oblivion, and that new movie with Matt Daimon.


Movies and games featuring those things don't really seem to me to be any more common than they were five or even ten years ago.
Five and ten years ago, they weren't as popular, now every game has some form of it. I've noticed that a lot of roleplayers seem to love precognition and clairvoyance most of all. Psychic powers are becoming more popular but in a fad-like way. Once one does it, they all do it.


I guess it's like how it used to be D&D magic and now it's turning to a more "realistic" or "scientific" form such as psychic powers. Media probably has something to do with it too. I just haven't noticed a huge fad yet. Then again, I don't role-play that much.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:59 am


How about this; I chose to give up my free will.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:27 pm


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How about this; I chose to give up my free will.


How do you know that the choice was ever yours in the first place?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:33 pm


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How about this; I chose to give up my free will.


How do you know that the choice was ever yours in the first place?


I'm curious as to how one "give's up free will"?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:47 am


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How about this; I chose to give up my free will.


How do you know that the choice was ever yours in the first place?


I'm curious as to how one "give's up free will"?


Exactly. If you choose to give it up then that's an act of free will. If you never had free will in the first place then you're not exercising it in any decision.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:11 am


It's simple really, you guys are thinking too hard.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:09 pm


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It's simple really, you guys are thinking too hard.


Explain it then.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:12 am


Why would I add complexity to something so simple? If you can't gather what I'm trying to say from my simple statement how would adding more words help?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:42 am


Azkeel
Why would I add complexity to something so simple? If you can't gather what I'm trying to say from my simple statement how would adding more words help?


yeaaaa. I have to agree with Obscurus.
I still don't understand how you can choose to give up free will... I'd say an explanation is in order razz

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:49 am


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Why would I add complexity to something so simple? If you can't gather what I'm trying to say from my simple statement how would adding more words help?


yeaaaa. I have to agree with Obscurus.
I still don't understand how you can choose to give up free will... I'd say an explanation is in order razz
Well to understand my statement one must first understand my spirituality. Look at it from a spiritual perspective.
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