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 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:06 am
Luther Olathes Queen Melethia Dagon Here's a question I would like to ask. How well would Salamence do in Uber anyway? How would Salamence stack against the uber tier? How about we think that. To anwser your question: I believe that the Uber Tier to Smogon is like the Recycle Bin to your computer. You send whatever you don't want hanging around there. The people of Smogon don't want to see Salamance in every battle, or its influences, so they send it to the Uber tier. How it stacks up to other Ubers is irrelevent.
Agreed!!
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:09 am
Luther Olathes Queen Melethia Dagon Here's a question I would like to ask. How well would Salamence do in Uber anyway? How would Salamence stack against the uber tier? How about we think that. To anwser your question: I believe that the Uber Tier to Smogon is like the Recycle Bin to your computer. You send whatever you don't want hanging around there. The people of Smogon don't want to see Salamance in every battle, or its influences, so they send it to the Uber tier. How it stacks up to other Ubers is irrelevent.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:35 am
Kyrenx Luther Olathes Queen Melethia Dagon Here's a question I would like to ask. How well would Salamence do in Uber anyway? How would Salamence stack against the uber tier? How about we think that. To anwser your question: I believe that the Uber Tier to Smogon is like the Recycle Bin to your computer. You send whatever you don't want hanging around there. The people of Smogon don't want to see Salamance in every battle, or its influences, so they send it to the Uber tier. How it stacks up to other Ubers is irrelevent.
Unlike you, Smogon wouldn't stay away from it. That's like also the haxor captial. Of course they would know.
Oh, and unlike our "recycle bin" (Uber Tier), they just love to restore them. Never will I battle at Smogon because A) Haxor Central B) Ubers would be overly used.
Would never trade or battle there, but their information is very useful. I just think their decisions are bad. I disagree with 'Mence being placed on the Uber Tier. 'Mence is now the baby of the Uber Tier, but hopefully the Crew can change that.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:56 pm
Lord Martini Oh, and unlike our "recycle bin" (Uber Tier), they just love to restore them.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:53 pm
Kyrenx Lord Martini Oh, and unlike our "recycle bin" (Uber Tier), they just love to restore them.
I know what you mean, but what I said was just an expression. You know, when you delete something from your computer but want to restore it. You explained it, just in a different way.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:12 pm
Kyrenx Lord Martini Oh, and unlike our "recycle bin" (Uber Tier), they just love to restore them.
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Nitrox Dragon Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:15 pm
Also to recognize, we have 1 decorated trainer with a Mence, and many others will need a free change if we vote Mence to Uber.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:53 pm
Nitrox Dragon Also to recognize, we have 1 decorated trainer with a Mence, and many others will need a free change if we vote Mence to Uber.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:01 pm
I'd like to know, as well- especially since there's one counter that works on all sets.
Focus Sash Froslass can not only switch in on all of Salamence's sets (save the freak Scarfmence) with impunity, it can also OHKO with Ice Beam on all sets. Even if Salamence DD's on the switch, Focus Sash will guarantee Froslass's survival as it Ice Beams it into oblivion. ._.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:23 pm
KuraiKitty I'd like to know, as well- especially since there's one counter that works on all sets.
Focus Sash Froslass can not only switch in on all of Salamence's sets (save the freak Scarfmence) with impunity, it can also OHKO with Ice Beam on all sets. Even if Salamence DD's on the switch, Focus Sash will guarantee Froslass's survival as it Ice Beams it into oblivion. ._.
One-on-One, sure it can stop it (possibly even revenge kill it assuming no entry hazard), but it cannot effectively (by definition) counter it. You are right though, there is one Pokemon that can counter all sets, Cresselia. But seeing how "useful" [note:sarcasm] that Pokemon is against the Scizor-heavy metagame it really is hard for it to garner very much mention. Regardless, Cresselia is able to survive any sort of attack from Salamence and then OHKO it with Ice Beam after Stealth Rock damage (and that's taking into account the rare Focus Sash or BulkyMence sets).
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:25 pm
Assuming that Froslass wasn't immediately switched in, that's indeed plausible. surprised Assuming that Salamence does DD on the switch, however, the Focus Sash will still work... unless SR is in effect. In that case, Froslass is screwed. rofl
If Salamence attacks on the switch with no DD (one would assume a trainer would immediately switch, though that depends on the situation), it would be OHKO'd the next turn, as it would lack the speed to beat out Froslass.
It really depends on how long Salamence has been out, hm?
To kill Focus Sash Froslass, Salamence needs to have been out for at least one turn prior to the switch. ;p
The odds are heavily in the lass's favor. She does make a good revenge killer, but can function as a definitive counter if put into play promptly after Salamence emerges.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:13 am
KuraiKitty The odds are heavily in the lass's favor. She does make a good revenge killer, but can function as a definitive counter if put into play promptly after Salamence emerges.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:17 pm
I have no formal opinion in the matter of Salamence, as my team, quite obviously, counters it easily. However, I'd just like to second Luther's statement in the previous thread that Scizor and Metagross then, too, should be banished to the uber tier. All of this is on the off chance that the guys at Smogon see this lowly thread... xp
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:31 am
I threw that question in there kinda randomly just to see what happens.
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Chaotic Houndoom Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:14 am
Queen Melethia Dagon I threw that question in there kinda randomly just to see what happens.
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