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Is eating animals wrong?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:41 pm


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No worries, soon there won't be any food left to eat so you won't have a moral dilemma over it. The world food wars.


There's almost always food; you just have to look beyond what we consider food these days. I could survive for weeks eating plants that grow as weeds in my yard.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:08 pm


Sentience is what makes us people. It is immoral to kill people. Therefore, it is moral to kill non-sentient animals. Killing chimps, crows, dolphins, etc? That's all immoral. Killing insects, spiders, cows, etc? Fine. They are NOT SENTIENT.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:21 pm


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That's great that you believe that, but I don't. But since we're wishing reincarnations on people, wouldn't it be swell if you were reincarnated as a lettuce plant, only to have your corporeal form ripped to shreds and then crushed and digested by some animal?

Humans are animals that eat other animals. We're no different than the predators in the wild that have to eat other animals to survive; we just developed tools to make it more efficient.

Plants have feelings too. Maybe we shouldn't eat plants either. How would you like it if someone came by and stepped on you, or scooped you up and boiled you to death and ate you? I don't suspect it's very enjoyable.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:45 pm


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I agree with Mei. I feel like buying and eating food that never got a chance to live a decent (if not good) life is supporting animal cruelty.

As for the plants, I think using pesticides on them is like torturing the plants and disrespect to bugs. That's why I prefer organic everything .... It can get complicated though, because you never know if it's really organic (or what?)... It's more than likely best to grow/hunt all the food you eat yourself smile

Honestly, if you're using pesticides, I doubt you really care much about disrespecting bugs.

Now that that's out of the way, I find a few things left to talk about.
Milk, for example: Why do we drink milk, do we want to be cows, all that. There's actually a guy at the herb shop somewhere around this town who says that to everyone who comes in his store. Also glues his sandals on, I find that interesting.
Anyway, we drink specifically cow milk for at least two reasons that I can immediately think of. One, cows were domesticated partially for this purpose. It provides a relatively steady source of drink (that tastes more interesting than water), and who really wants to go try and breastfeed on a regular basis? Let's be honest, here. Second is the simple fact that it is nutritious.
Short version, nutrition, taste, and availability.

Next, the raw eggs thing. Assuming the immorality of eating animal flesh, don't you think it'd be just as bad (if not worse) to eat the eggs? From what I've heard, people get pretty worked up about abortion, making it seem somehow worse than murder; wouldn't that same logic apply in other branches of the animal kingdom? That's also why I find it funny that people often suggest fish-based products and white meat as a morally safe alternative to red meat. Either way, something gets killed, and you end up eating at least part of that something.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:28 pm


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Sentience is what makes us people. It is immoral to kill people. Therefore, it is moral to kill non-sentient animals. Killing chimps, crows, dolphins, etc? That's all immoral. Killing insects, spiders, cows, etc? Fine. They are NOT SENTIENT.


That's... really not accurate.

Sentience is simply the ability to perceive and feel. So chimps, crows, cows, are all sentient. The point is, every animal used as a meat source is sentient, so sentience isn't really the crux of whether or not killing certain animals is moral or immoral.

Humans are self-aware and sapient. These qualities are what two of the bigger factors that separate us from the rest of the animal world, not sentience, which is something that is largely shared by most vertebrates.

Sentience is a term that's really thrown around far too much. Mostly thanks to sci-fi.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:27 am


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Here's what I think about eating animals, it's disgusting and although they taste delicious we shouldn't be eating them. Eating animals is like eating humans. Just because animals are less intelligent and they are limited to their capabilities doesn't mean that they are of less value than humans. Humans disgust me, I hate human nature. Greed, corruption, hate, jealousy, evilness, desire, all things which burden humans are the reason I believe humans are terrible creatures. If somehow reincarnation truly exists then I hope you be reincarnated into a chicken or a fish to experience how it feels to have your limbs teared off or to see how it feels to be taken from your only source of life and left to die.

I believe it's in an animal's nature to eat from other animals so I don't blame them, also because they survive in the wild while being targeted by predators every day and every animal has it's prey. I believe humans should only be allowed to eat fruit, vegetables, plants and other types of food that are not from an animal or an animal itself.

Ever since I realized how eating animals is a terrible thing, whenever I eat animals now my stomach starts to hurt because I've stored the idea that eating animals is wrong somewhere in my brain. I always loved meat, everyday I would eat pepperoni pizza because that was my favorite food and now I won't eat it. You can learn a lot of spiritual concepts from the cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender. It's actually a pretty smart show.





The Bible says that in the earliest days of creation, all of God's creation (even animals) were vegetarian. When God blessed Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, He said to them: "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. And it was so" (Genesis 1:29-30).

It appears that all creation was vegetarian until after the waters of the Great Flood receded and Noah and his family were left to replenish the earth.

Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything."


there is no shame in eating greens & friuits,but its not wrong to eat meat,for God allowed us,in that,we shouldn't feel guilty,and in the new world & heaven,we will no longer eat animals lol,and every lion will eat hay like the cows,and the lambs will sleep with the lions and none shall be hurt ^^ lol,the words are different,but its close enough xD hope this helped =P

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:37 am


The egg part I must go against. Abortion is similar to how we eat eggs but eggs are aborted for the survival of a race while abortion stops a life with no life being saved for "trade".
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:10 pm


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The egg part I must go against. Abortion is similar to how we eat eggs but eggs are aborted for the survival of a race while abortion stops a life with no life being saved for "trade".

Eggs are aborted for the survival of a race? Well, humans can just eat something else to survive, can't they?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:19 pm


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The egg part I must go against. Abortion is similar to how we eat eggs but eggs are aborted for the survival of a race while abortion stops a life with no life being saved for "trade".


Sometimes abortions are performed to save the mother's life.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:03 am


When you eat farmed food, you kill and oppress animals. Their habitat is destroyed by the farms, they get killed in combines, they're poisoned by the GMO and pesticides.

Farmed food is also unsuitable for human consumption when you compare it to free range animals. We've been eating meat and some wild plants for over two million years and farmed food for only a few thousand.

So mass agriculture damages your health, kills animals, enslaves (domestication), and destroys the ecosystem.

All you vegetarians are no better than the rest of us eating factory farmed meat and eggs. Tofu is murder too.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:21 am


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When you eat farmed food, you kill and oppress animals. Their habitat is destroyed by the farms, they get killed in combines, they're poisoned by the GMO and pesticides.

Farmed food is also unsuitable for human consumption when you compare it to free range animals. We've been eating meat and some wild plants for over two million years and farmed food for only a few thousand.

So mass agriculture damages your health, kills animals, enslaves (domestication), and destroys the ecosystem.

All you vegetarians are no better than the rest of us eating factory farmed meat and eggs. Tofu is murder too.




=o well said couldn't of said it better myself lol.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:00 am


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The egg part I must go against. Abortion is similar to how we eat eggs but eggs are aborted for the survival of a race while abortion stops a life with no life being saved for "trade".


Sometimes abortions are performed to save the mother's life.
Indeed. That is when it is most necessary and should be allowed.

Regardless the abortion of certain eggs is for the survival of another life. In chickens, for the food of humans and foxes. In women, for the survival of the woman or her own personal reasons.

@Jelubi: We could, but people just love their damn eggs and bacon too much. Without eggs, many of the things we eat would possibly made WAAAAAAAAY differently that might not be very appetizing. We are a destruction race and we are the most powerful race. This world is ours....for the taking and the saving.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:03 am


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When you eat farmed food, you kill and oppress animals. Their habitat is destroyed by the farms, they get killed in combines, they're poisoned by the GMO and pesticides.

Farmed food is also unsuitable for human consumption when you compare it to free range animals. We've been eating meat and some wild plants for over two million years and farmed food for only a few thousand.

So mass agriculture damages your health, kills animals, enslaves (domestication), and destroys the ecosystem.

All you vegetarians are no better than the rest of us eating factory farmed meat and eggs. Tofu is murder too.
Well said. In all essence, we're murderers. We eat. We kill. We survive our own way.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:23 pm


Animals have been eating animals for over a billion years and not everyone has the income or food supply to live without meat. In the US, it's easy to live veagan because all the things we need are right there, but a lot of places live in too poverse conditions to be veagan.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:06 pm


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Here's what I think about eating animals, it's disgusting and although they taste delicious we shouldn't be eating them. Eating animals is like eating humans. Just because animals are less intelligent and they are limited to their capabilities doesn't mean that they are of less value than humans. Humans disgust me, I hate human nature. Greed, corruption, hate, jealousy, evilness, desire, all things which burden humans are the reason I believe humans are terrible creatures. If somehow reincarnation truly exists then I hope you be reincarnated into a chicken or a fish to experience how it feels to have your limbs teared off or to see how it feels to be taken from your only source of life and left to die.

I believe it's in an animal's nature to eat from other animals so I don't blame them, also because they survive in the wild while being targeted by predators every day and every animal has it's prey. I believe humans should only be allowed to eat fruit, vegetables, plants and other types of food that are not from an animal or an animal itself.

Ever since I realized how eating animals is a terrible thing, whenever I eat animals now my stomach starts to hurt because I've stored the idea that eating animals is wrong somewhere in my brain. I always loved meat, everyday I would eat pepperoni pizza because that was my favorite food and now I won't eat it. You can learn a lot of spiritual concepts from the cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender. It's actually a pretty smart show.





The Bible says that in the earliest days of creation, all of God's creation (even animals) were vegetarian. When God blessed Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, He said to them: "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. And it was so" (Genesis 1:29-30).

It appears that all creation was vegetarian until after the waters of the Great Flood receded and Noah and his family were left to replenish the earth.

Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything."


there is no shame in eating greens & friuits,but its not wrong to eat meat,for God allowed us,in that,we shouldn't feel guilty,and in the new world & heaven,we will no longer eat animals lol,and every lion will eat hay like the cows,and the lambs will sleep with the lions and none shall be hurt ^^ lol,the words are different,but its close enough xD hope this helped =P

so let me get this strait... in heaven... and this apparent new world, there is no fighting or killing, what so ever... so... when we move on the grass where going to have to dodge our way around all the bugs? and no more meat? what about drinking? and fighting? fighting is fun, and good way to test skill. oh, and without danger there is no, or hardly any excitement, no thrill from doing something risky. if thats the case, then it sounds like there would be a few cool sights, and a few cool things to experience that we couldn't before... but after awhile it would get really, really, really boring... and kind of pointless... but oh well,
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