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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:51 am


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if acreus was allways banned why did they even put it in dimond pearl and plat in the first place huh?

Umm... to fit a storyline? Heck. Even events hosted by Nintendo itself ban Arceus from being used, and I think THAT says a lot against your childish little rant. Thank you for wasting my time on having to explain something as obvious as that.

Thank you for posting that, KY. Otherwise I would've.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:11 am


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its a shame that Salamence is comeing close to being uu and i dont see why anyone would want to put it on the list besides not want to go against one that just tells you that person is real noobish in first place and to be honest salamence should stay ou because then inturn there will never be a chance for a dragon gym to be started (if there is not one allready) so i would have to say that salamence should stay at ou

Dude.... you're a noob. & there is, Clair in Blackthorn City.

I believe he meant as a Wi-Fi Gym, not in-game.

As did I. But I don't understand how he thinks that Mence dropping to UU would make it unusable. Unless he thinks UU is Ubers.
yes i meant ubers and i ment as in wifi gyms sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:12 pm


This is ridculous, Im sorry to say, but there are4 so many other pokemon that could be consider, but Salamence!? COME ONE! I dont own one, but i have battled many,many,many Salamence over wi0fi and my Dragonite took every single one down with 1 hit from Outrage, maybe two if properly trained, and it could never do much to fight back, maybe just horrible trainers. But this shouldnt even be a discussion, Might as well bump up Metagross to if you're gonna do Salamence
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:58 pm


Smogon's testing is a very different metagame than the standard WiFi.

For one thing, stealth rocks were always present on Shoddy but were not used nearly as much on WiFi (before HG/SS made it so easy/cheap to get them).
Shoddy also has usable Rotom Formes.
Shoddy also has Hidden Powers.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:33 am


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Smogon's testing is a very different metagame than the standard WiFi.

For one thing, stealth rocks were always present on Shoddy but were not used nearly as much on WiFi (before HG/SS made it so easy/cheap to get them).
Shoddy also has usable Rotom Formes.
Shoddy also has Hidden Powers.

I know. I've always made it a priority to have an entry hazard on my teams, though. But if I were able to use the Rotom formes in Wi-fi, my Ghost team would have been far more effective. Regular Rotom has some nice strategy with it, but I'd prefer the bulkier versions. I don't use HP too much, but it is annoying when I actually wish to.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:56 am


Regardless of Smogon's final decission, if the crew here does not feel that Smogon's changes and decission are just we will make the changes to our own person listings. So, those of you who are worried about losing Salamance, there will be a debat under the event Smogon does rule it Uber. In which you will voice your opinion and the Crew will vote on it, just like we did with Latias and Garchomp.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:55 am


Luther Olathes
Regardless of Smogon's final decission, if the crew here does not feel that Smogon's changes and decission are just we will make the changes to our own person listings. So, those of you who are worried about losing Salamance, there will be a debat under the event Smogon does rule it Uber. In which you will voice your opinion and the Crew will vote on it, just like we did with Latias and Garchomp.
Yeah don't fret about Smogon's Tiers. I don't like them much anyway. We go more on facts. Smogon's more on what people use. Cress I see as one of the hardest things to take down...and it's in BL according to Smogon. I think she should still be OU. If I talk anymore I'm going to go into a rant.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:07 pm


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Yeah don't fret about Smogon's Tiers. I don't like them much anyway. We go more on facts. Smogon's more on what people use.


Well, I'm not trying to call you out or anything but that's pretty much what most Tiers are.. popularity contests. The only two "real factual tiers" are Ubers and everything else as the Uber tier is more or less a ban list for the standard online metagame, thus removing Pokemon that either have over 600 BST (obviously a few exceptions) and/or overcentralizes the metagame.

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