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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:44 pm


DaikonNairu -Ren-
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... but the existence of the sad depraved monster doesn't prove the existence of the omnipotent omniscient and benevolent monster savior.


On the subject of the "depraved monster". If God made man in His own image, then doesn't that mean that every depraved and villainous human trait is a trait that also exists within God?


It's a fair question. Could be, it sounds reasonable enough. It's not what I believe as a Catholic though. The basic idea is that God is good God created us in his image but we through our own free will stepped away from that good. We moved into the natural result of what is in an absence of that good.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:45 pm


DaikonNairu -Ren-
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I'm not looking to put her down though, she dislikes me and I'm starting to think it's because my people killed Jesus.


Unless you're a Roman, Italian your people didn't kill Jesus.


I am indeed Italian.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:46 pm


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You spammed my profile about how I am sinning by being gay, how I need to accept Jesus, and how Jews are going to Hell!


That's harassment as is reportable. Did you ever report her for it?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:47 pm


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You spammed my profile about how I am sinning by being gay, how I need to accept Jesus, and how Jews are going to Hell!


That's harassment as is reportable. Did you ever report her for it?


I don't report people, mostly because I've been permabanned many times.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:47 pm


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... and are probably only looking for ways to put people down.
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Lets not start this. Its just a big noisy mess. None of us was looking to put you down, Bluexx, we just don't agree with you and are posing arguments to support our opinions. No one is attacking anyone personally, just each other's arguments.


I might have, in my last post, but I'm losing my patience.

I'm not looking to put her down though, she dislikes me and I'm starting to think it's because my people killed Jesus.

I dislike you because you assumed I didn't like you because you were Jewish when that would make me more likely to like someone, you put me down when I mentioned my brother after you mentioned why you felt persecuted, you insult me, you've attacked others, you've put words in my mouth and because I think you dislike me. I'll quote and pm you the evidences, but I really wouldn't mind calling a truce. I hate disliking people and I don't want an enemy. >.<
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:48 pm


Semiremis
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Semiremis
... but the existence of the sad depraved monster doesn't prove the existence of the omnipotent omniscient and benevolent monster savior.
On the subject of the "depraved monster". If God made man in His own image, then doesn't that mean that every depraved and villainous human trait is a trait that also exists within God?
It's a fair question. Could be, it sounds reasonable enough. It's not what I believe as a Catholic though. The basic idea is that God is good God created us in his image but we through our own free will stepped away from that good. We moved into the natural result of what is in an absence of that good.


Interesting. As one who does not believe in a sapient "God" I don't hold with either, but its interesting to see both views.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:49 pm


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... and are probably only looking for ways to put people down.
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Lets not start this. Its just a big noisy mess. None of us was looking to put you down, Bluexx, we just don't agree with you and are posing arguments to support our opinions. No one is attacking anyone personally, just each other's arguments.


I might have, in my last post, but I'm losing my patience.

I'm not looking to put her down though, she dislikes me and I'm starting to think it's because my people killed Jesus.

I dislike you because you assumed I didn't like you because you were Jewish when that would make me more likely to like someone, you put me down when I mentioned my brother after you mentioned why you felt persecuted, you insult me, you've attacked others, you've put words in my mouth and because I think you dislike me. I'll quote and pm you the evidences, but I really wouldn't mind calling a truce. I hate disliking people and I don't want an enemy. >.<



You're the one who went all "The only way into heaven is through Jesus!" even after I told you that Hell doesn't scripturally exist as it does in Christian dogma. I've also proven to you via Hebrew meanings that homosexuality is not a sin in the Torah.

I don't feel persecuted, never have, but I do get peeved when people think Jews need to be converted.

I don't think anyone here has felt "attacked" by me, besides you.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:53 pm


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You spammed my profile about how I am sinning by being gay, how I need to accept Jesus, and how Jews are going to Hell!


That's harassment as is reportable. Did you ever report her for it?
Like I said, puts words in people's mouth. I profile commented her once, because her profile said to. I didn't even know she was gay until the homosexuality thread, and I said I didn't think Jews were going to Hell. I didn't harass her, and I apologized when she accused me of it. You don't have to act as a referee though. I'm just gonna ignore IMR until she gets her facts straight and stops assuming I'm 'judging' her about anything except her attitude.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:56 pm


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You don't have to act as a referee though.


Sorry, the referee thing is a reflex. I work with kids allot. Really, I think the both of you just need to chill out. You both seem to have light Persecution Complexes.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:57 pm


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xxEternallyBluexx
... and are probably only looking for ways to put people down.
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Lets not start this. Its just a big noisy mess. None of us was looking to put you down, Bluexx, we just don't agree with you and are posing arguments to support our opinions. No one is attacking anyone personally, just each other's arguments.


I might have, in my last post, but I'm losing my patience.

I'm not looking to put her down though, she dislikes me and I'm starting to think it's because my people killed Jesus.

I dislike you because you assumed I didn't like you because you were Jewish when that would make me more likely to like someone, you put me down when I mentioned my brother after you mentioned why you felt persecuted, you insult me, you've attacked others, you've put words in my mouth and because I think you dislike me. I'll quote and pm you the evidences, but I really wouldn't mind calling a truce. I hate disliking people and I don't want an enemy. >.<



You're the one who went all "The only way into heaven is through Jesus!" even after I told you that Hell doesn't scripturally exist as it does in Christian dogma. I've also proven to you via Hebrew meanings that homosexuality is not a sin in the Torah.

I don't feel persecuted, never have, but I do get peeved when people think Jews need to be converted.

I don't think anyone here has felt "attacked" by me, besides you.

No you didn't! You didn't back up what you said, and you accused me of thinking Jews went to Hell when I said I didn't know what happened to them! And I said I needed time to research it. razz

Ugh, I wasn't trying to convert you. rolleyes

I'll get the quote, if you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:00 pm


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You don't have to act as a referee though.


Sorry, the referee thing is a reflex. I work with kids allot. Really, I think the both of you just need to chill out. You both seem to have light Persecution Complexes.
No, it's a good thing. ^^ I'm just saying you don't have to if you want to.

Alright, I'll walk away from the topic for a bit, though I hope I don't have a 'Persecution Complex'. I have enough mental problems as it is. xd
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:04 pm


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]No, it's a good thing. ^^ I'm just saying you don't have to if you want to.


Some people get upset when strangers get all up in their business.

@ Medias: Really? Have we turned this whole thread from a discussion about interpreting a Twain drabbling into pissing contest of who's persecuted who more? Ugh. I'm not gonna feed your feud.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:06 pm


I don't have a persecution complex.

I'm willing to call truce with Blue.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:38 am


I don't really think could be something to say as of our race being 'damned'. Mostly because you have to believe in hell, first.
I do believe what opinions are, though. I believe they are opinions and nothing more. If I was Christian, I wouldn't believe someone's opinions as a reason we are all damned. I believe a good number of us probably would be damned from looking at today's world. Then again, since I'm Atheist, I think those places don't exist. I'll say this, and I learned this in school today, just because a quote is good, don't trust it from the person. It probably means a lot more than you know.

I can't find the website of the quote but it was a quote that death was greater than the humiliation of no freedom. That was a quote by Osama Bin Laden and it was shown throughout the entire school.

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