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Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:58 am


With all of that said, what right do we have to say that child can't use that body? Reincarnation or no, what right do you have to take away the current life?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:33 am


Pyrotechnic Oracle
With all of that said, what right do we have to say that child can't use that body? Reincarnation or no, what right do you have to take away the current life?

Karma. See one reason why I would not abort is because no one has the bad karma against me. For the abortions it's my belief that the spirit of the fetus had done the spirit of the mother wrong in a past life. So it's karma is to be stripped of the existence that soul would give.

RaveKitten13


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:43 am


Thats still not a justification. ANd it still does not give you the right to kill it. There is no tellign what the spirit did in a past life, so you have no right to cast any form of judgment. Thats for God, Buhda, Brahman, Allah, who ever you worship to decide. Not you.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:08 pm


Pyrotechnic Oracle
Thats still not a justification. ANd it still does not give you the right to kill it. There is no tellign what the spirit did in a past life, so you have no right to cast any form of judgment. Thats for God, Buhda, Brahman, Allah, who ever you worship to decide. Not you.

Only the body dies... the person doesn't. That's the key point in my belief I think you might be missing. God (my belief) takes the soul and spirit out before hand, he knows what is going to happen and he removes the possibility of pain before the body is removed. Suicide, the Holocaust (I know they felt pain, but I think part of that comes from the fact that there the removal needs to happen right before the actual death), accidents, murder, natural death, ect all have the same thing. And in the Hindu belief that holds the Karma, what the person did in a past life IS known. Hence why they are reincarnated into different castes, animals, god like creatures. So the Karma is known for the spirit... just like the collective conciousness.

It's another reason I think brain dead people should be taken off life support (if it is their wish or a family member's wish). The spirit has already gone, only the soul is keeping the organs working, but the two are separated and need to be rejoined before they can be reborn.

Also, it's not the PERSON who is deciding it. It's the karma... the person is just the vessel in which it is carried out.

RaveKitten13


]Kaiser[

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:24 pm


Viv can I ask you why Nethilia and MipsyKitten hate you?

And can I ask as well where it was posted that I wasn't a good person?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:16 am


Master Kaiser
Viv can I ask you why Nethilia and MipsyKitten hate you?

And can I ask as well where it was posted that I wasn't a good person?

I'm assuming in their hidden guild.

Just a guess.

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Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:10 am


A hidden guild? Huh...how quiant. They can't say any thign in the ED or their own guild because we'll see it.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:00 am


Mcphee
Master Kaiser
Viv can I ask you why Nethilia and MipsyKitten hate you?

And can I ask as well where it was posted that I wasn't a good person?

I'm assuming in their hidden guild.

Just a guess.


Hidden guild? I'm curious about anything that's hidden, what is it?

rweghrheh


]Kaiser[

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:45 pm


The Lesbian Humping Temple, a guild for the frequenters of ED's abortion thread. Obviously Pro-choice frequenters.

Eh, not like I give a damn.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:53 pm


Master Kaiser
The Lesbian Humping Temple, a guild for the frequenters of ED's abortion thread. Obviously Pro-choice frequenters.

Eh, not like I give a damn.


If they were lesbians they most wouldn't even have to worry about getting pregnant, expect for being raped.

rweghrheh


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:00 pm


Thats the point why they say Lesbians and Gays shouldn't have a say in the pro-life issue...oh, but they'r emore then welcome to voice an opinoin thats por-choice...sorry if you found that to be in offence McPhee.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:09 pm


Pyrotechnic Oracle
Thats the point why they say Lesbians and Gays shouldn't have a say in the pro-life issue...oh, but they'r emore then welcome to voice an opinoin thats por-choice...sorry if you found that to be in offence McPhee.


They should be allowed to voice any opinion just like anybody else. Just be they won't get or get someone pregnant when they choose to have sex. Doesn't mean they don't have a can't say what they think and believe.

rweghrheh


]Kaiser[

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:13 pm


Yes, half of them are bisexual or somesuch.

Also, choosing to worship something that grants you moral rights to do as you please and be selfish, is really self-centered.


A certain someone has that belief, and chose to follow those moral guidelines. Yeah that's right, chose. rolleyes
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