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 Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:30 pm
milkshake0626 mistress_hydro kita44 Lost Journeyer well by definition all lust is sin. Matthew 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (NIV) Well yeah, but he hilighted the part of men lusting for men, so I'm asking him if he ment it's 'extra-sinful' to lust for the same sex. i think it is, men and women are ment to be with each other, not any other way. I think its no good unless its a man and a woman Milkshake while I share in your opinion as does the Bible please refrain from posting opinion alone. This is a place for people to come and ask questions about the Bible freely, and get real biblical answers regardless of sexual orientation. So I ask that if you post something relating to someone's question you include biblical text
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:41 am
Lets try nudism. Is that a sin if you don't lust? neutral
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:50 am
I believe it is. Lusting is only a part of the sin. And if you do not lust, it is still a sin. Let's look at nudism. In the Bible, revealing the flesh is actually revealing the sin. I found it a few times in the Old Testament, and I found it that way. If someone sins, I forget where it says this, but it says to uncover thy locks and make bare the thigh, for thy sin is revealed.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:01 pm
RighteousMan117 Lets try nudism. Is that a sin if you don't lust? neutral This is along the lines of pornography, so yes it is. The thing is with nudism you're getting far too close to the lines that God has drawn for us especially if you're living in a nudist society. It is not our responsibility to see how close we can get to these lines without sinning, but to stay as far away from these lines as possible Now I asked this question with the pornography bit, and I will ask it again, if you're in a nudist community and you're looking at a nudist and not lusting... then what are you thinking about? Edit: Also Thistle is right the Bible does talk about revealing your body as revealing your sin. Also several places talk about modesty and being modest and sorry but removing all your clothes and going into public isn't modest and is screaming at the world to look at you
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:35 pm
Friar Thomas RighteousMan117 Lets try nudism. Is that a sin if you don't lust? neutral This is along the lines of pornography, so yes it is. The thing is with nudism you're getting far too close to the lines that God has drawn for us especially if you're living in a nudist society. It is not our responsibility to see how close we can get to these lines without sinning, but to stay as far away from these lines as possible Now I asked this question with the pornography bit, and I will ask it again, if you're in a nudist community and you're looking at a nudist and not lusting... then what are you thinking about? Edit: Also Thistle is right the Bible does talk about revealing your body as revealing your sin. Also several places talk about modesty and being modest and sorry but removing all your clothes and going into public isn't modest and is screaming at the world to look at you Nudism isn't a sin. After all we are born nude and we bath nude. There is also the fact Adam and Eve were naked in the garden before the fall of man. Then there is also the time David went dancing nude in the streets when they regained the arc. 2 Samuel 6:16-23 You see it's not nudism that's a sin it's the lust that is. So the actual answer would be no.
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:37 pm
Here's something. God made sex. Yes, you heard me right. God made sex! He made it to be amazing and awesome but as long as it's within marriage. If you don't believe just look up stds. Anyways God wants a married couple to have sex after all it says "Go forth and multiply." There's something to think about.
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:38 pm
Gothic in context of his question Nudism is a sin.
Sure being nude in the privacy of one's own home is not a sin. And you're right Adam and Eve were nude in the garden BEFORE the fall of man, and you're born nude and you bathe nude... but all of these things excluding Adam and Eve are in private, or beyond one's own control.
Being a Nudist is not the same thing as being nude. A nudist is someone who chooses to forgo clothing in every situation. Someone who feels that being naked is freeing and refuses to conform to the "constraints" of clothing
In this context Nudism is a sin. The reason being is you are exposing yourself to others. It's perverse to say in the least. And yes you're right God made sex and that is the very point of what I'm trying to get across here. However, there are questions that teenagers have regarding sex and sin, and that is the purpose of this thread not to bash anyone or to say that sex is evil. In fact sex is a beautiful thing inside the context of marriage, outside though it is wrong.
I will say again, the point of this thread is not to argue that, or to say that sex is evil. It is to answer the questions that teenagers have regarding sex because the only answers they are getting are at school and frankly that is the wrong place to get answers at all.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:01 am
Friar Thomas Gothic in context of his question Nudism is a sin. Sure being nude in the privacy of one's own home is not a sin. And you're right Adam and Eve were nude in the garden BEFORE the fall of man, and you're born nude and you bathe nude... but all of these things excluding Adam and Eve are in private, or beyond one's own control. Being a Nudist is not the same thing as being nude. A nudist is someone who chooses to forgo clothing in every situation. Someone who feels that being naked is freeing and refuses to conform to the "constraints" of clothing In this context Nudism is a sin. The reason being is you are exposing yourself to others. It's perverse to say in the least. And yes you're right God made sex and that is the very point of what I'm trying to get across here. However, there are questions that teenagers have regarding sex and sin, and that is the purpose of this thread not to bash anyone or to say that sex is evil. In fact sex is a beautiful thing inside the context of marriage, outside though it is wrong. I will say again, the point of this thread is not to argue that, or to say that sex is evil. It is to answer the questions that teenagers have regarding sex because the only answers they are getting are at school and frankly that is the wrong place to get answers at all. He has the right to be given the answer due to what the Bible says. I was just pointing out that the answer you have gave isn't anywhere within scripture. No where does it say that it is a sin to be nude. It says that is is shameful but never a sin. The best way to know what is a sin and what isn't is to read Deuteronomy and there is only one reference in there that talks about it and it's Deuteronomy 24:48 "You will serve your enemies whom the Lord will send against you. You will be left hungry, thirsty, naked, and lacking in everything. The Lord will put an iron yoke on your neck, oppressing you harshly until he has destroyed you." Not only that Jesus was crusified naked and as we all know he never sinned. If being naked was a sin then that means he would have sinned and therefor couldn't be the Messiah. Anyways I'm not argueing with you I am rebuking you. For it says I am suppose to rebuke another Christian when they are wrong and misleading someone else. Titus 1:13-14 "And this account of them is [really] true. Because it is [true], rebuke them sharply [deal sternly, even severely with them], so that they may be sound in the faith and free from error, [And may show their soundness by] ceasing to give attention to Jewish myths and fables or to rules [laid down] by [mere] men who reject and turn their backs on the Truth."
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:19 am
He didn't ask if it was wrong to be NUDE or NAKED. He asked if it is wrong to be a NUDIST/NUDISM and if it is a sin..
NUDISM in and of itself is not a sin
It is not wrong to be naked or Nude... to be a NUDIST on the other hand is wrong because you're exposing yourself to the public
I'm sorry Gothic but sometimes it is necessary to look to other places besides the bible to get answers. The concept of a NUDIST isn't found in the Bible anywhere, but the concept of Exposing oneself, being sexually immoral and the like are.
Also if you discount Deuteronomy why not throw out Leviticus, and Genesis and Exodus for that matter. Biblical books are still cannon and still holds weight even if we don't necessarily follow every little thing that Deuteronomy and Leviticus says anymore.
Furthermore something that is shameful may not be sinful per say but is not everything sinful shameful? . The Bible also says do not cause your brother to stumble. If you're walking around in a nudist community as a nudist you are walking up to the line and saying I don't care if this causes someone to stumble. And you WILL cause someone to stumble with their sin.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:56 pm
you mentioned Adam and Eve being naked before the fall. well, after the fall God killed a lamb and made clothing to cover their nakedness, which they were ashamed of. they were a perfect creation, with perfect bodies. why would they be ashamed of those bodies unless it was a sin to walk around exposed?
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:08 am
brownieeyes91 you mentioned Adam and Eve being naked before the fall. well, after the fall God killed a lamb and made clothing to cover their nakedness, which they were ashamed of. they were a perfect creation, with perfect bodies. why would they be ashamed of those bodies unless it was a sin to walk around exposed? He knows everything, and He knew that there would be men and women in this world that would have issues taming their minds when it came to the opposite sex. So...What if it isn't a sin to be naked? What if God was just taking the first step in battling lust to see how humanity did?
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:47 pm
Imitation Stradivarius brownieeyes91 you mentioned Adam and Eve being naked before the fall. well, after the fall God killed a lamb and made clothing to cover their nakedness, which they were ashamed of. they were a perfect creation, with perfect bodies. why would they be ashamed of those bodies unless it was a sin to walk around exposed? He knows everything, and He knew that there would be men and women in this world that would have issues taming their minds when it came to the opposite sex. So...What if it isn't a sin to be naked? What if God was just taking the first step in battling lust to see how humanity did? It's not a sin to be naked in your home, away from the eyes of others or with someone you are married to or someone who is your parent. However nudism, being naked in public I would say it is which is why God gave us clothing
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:02 pm
Hey, I don't really know if this ties in with everything, but what does it mean to be transsexual? question
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:01 pm
Transsexual - a person having a strong desire to assume the physical characteristics and gender role of the opposite sex. (dictionary.com)
This is spoken out against in the Bible... I can't look up the reference right at this moment, (its 12:02 I'm heading to bed) but I will make sure to edit this post and put in the reference either tomorrow or the day after
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