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 Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:45 pm
I don't see her as "misinformed" so much as she holds different beliefs from me, some of which are akin to mine and some are not. If someone holds similar beliefs to her, that's fine. If not, that's fine too.
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:46 pm
thank you, hecate and delly, for the input. i'll try to track those down if i can.
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:30 pm
AkashaHecate Rizu-Sensei thanks! ^_^ silver ravenwolf is my favorite. another guild that i'm in had a thread bashing her, and i think i'm going to quit it....people shouldn't look down on you because you learned magic from a book, 'cuz frankly for some of us that's really the only way we can learn right now... I myself, don't like Ravenwolf but I will respect if someone else likes her. Anyone read "Drawing Down the Moon" by Margot Adler? I'm currently reading it and I LOVE it!!!
Drawing Down the Moon was one of the first books I read when getting into the craft. It remains one of my favorites to this day. I think it is a must read for all of us.
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:18 am
I have only skimmed it, but from what I have seen Drawing Down the Moon is indeed a good book. And it's also on the recommended reading list if you're studying Druidism, too. I found that out because my bf wants to study Druidism. He even joined the AODA (Ancient Order of Druids in America). he still has to start and complete his first year of study. It seems cool though, I am actually considering joining too. It's not an exclusive thing, they allow people of all faiths to join, and once you hit second tier you become an ordained priest/priestess. There are other Druid orders out there as well, that's just the one I can remember off the top of my head.
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:45 pm
redface i feel dumb but wat kind of speels and stufff can we do and i would luv 4 someone 2 pm about wicca
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:38 pm
There are a lot of different spells you can do in Wicca, narrow your question a bit and it might be easier to help. If you're not comfortable asking your questions here, you can always pm me and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:05 pm
in NEW Wicca, you can to any spells that do not pose any harm or ill intent on someone, it works like karma. kinda. you can't make someone fall in love with you, or have an enemy get chicken pox. It you want those kinds of spells I suggest Anton LaVey Satanism. BTW Anton LaVey Satanist don't worship Satan, and they celebrate Wiccan sabbats, but focus on greed and self gain, kinda opposite of Wicca (if you wanna agrue with me about these facts of Satanism, be my guest, but you won't win, my hubby been an Anton Lavey for well over 13 years). Anyways you also can't perform spells without the person you want to do it on's permission in NEW Wicca.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:38 am
Jai Kali Maa
Witches can cast whatever kind of spells they want. All that matters is what you deem morally acceptable.
Jai Maa Kali
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:23 pm
technically, anyone can do anything they they want. i can run a red light, north korea can nuke the phillipines, and barak obama can dance naked on the roof of the white house. what really matters is being able to forsee the repercussions of your actions, and have the wisdom to know what actions are appropriate and which ren't. anyone who can't tell the difference should not be practicing witchcraft. if you truly believe that witches can just willy-nilly cast whatever spells they want, then you either aren't a real witch, or you had a massive brain fart and forgot the whole bit about
Bide the Wiccan Law ye must,
In perfect love, in perfect trust.
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill:
An ye harm none, do as ye will.
And ever mind the Rule of Three:
What ye send out, comes back to thee.
Follow this with mind and heart,
And merry ye meet, and merry ye part.
ninja
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:03 pm
now I'm not claiming to everything about all forms of magic, but from what I've seen and studied, you can do whatever you want, but it's generally not a good idea. Wiccans tend to follow the Wiccan Rede; Druids, while they do believe in magic, are much more limited in their view of how to use it. Take a money spell, for example. They believe that while you can cast one, and you can benefit from it, the money has to come from somewhere, and you don't know where it is coming from and thus don't know if there is someone more deserving who now won't get it. Those are the two I'm most familiar with, but a lot of other traditions seem to feel similar things (even Stregheria, which seems to follow the, "Don't start it but do finish it" line of thinking).
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:40 pm
Rizu-Sensei technically, anyone can do anything they they want. i can run a red light, north korea can nuke the phillipines, and barak obama can dance naked on the roof of the white house. what really matters is being able to forsee the repercussions of your actions, and have the wisdom to know what actions are appropriate and which ren't. anyone who can't tell the difference should not be practicing witchcraft. if you truly believe that witches can just willy-nilly cast whatever spells they want, then you either aren't a real witch, or you had a massive brain fart and forgot the whole bit about Bide the Wiccan Law ye must, In perfect love, in perfect trust. Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill: An ye harm none, do as ye will. And ever mind the Rule of Three: What ye send out, comes back to thee. Follow this with mind and heart, And merry ye meet, and merry ye part. ninja My thoughts exactly. Beautifully demonstrated.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:33 pm
Rizu-Sensei technically, anyone can do anything they they want. i can run a red light, north korea can nuke the phillipines, and barak obama can dance naked on the roof of the white house. what really matters is being able to forsee the repercussions of your actions, and have the wisdom to know what actions are appropriate and which ren't. anyone who can't tell the difference should not be practicing witchcraft. if you truly believe that witches can just willy-nilly cast whatever spells they want, then you either aren't a real witch, or you had a massive brain fart and forgot the whole bit about Bide the Wiccan Law ye must, In perfect love, in perfect trust. Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill: An ye harm none, do as ye will. And ever mind the Rule of Three: What ye send out, comes back to thee. Follow this with mind and heart, And merry ye meet, and merry ye part. ninja I am a witch, not a Wiccan. I follow my own path and my own rules. I am not bound by a rede (which is technically only advice, not even a law or anything). The rule of three makes no sense, I do not believe in it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:49 pm
Technically it is advice, but its really more of a law since (at least most) Wiccans believe that you get what you give, which is what the Rede says. It's our form of Karma, basically. That for everything you put out, you get back three times. So you do something good, something three times as nice will happen. If you do something harmful, something equal to triple that will happen as well. And no one said you can't or are wrong for following your own path; however, there are quite a few magical practitioners that hold to something similar, because what you can do can affect others, for good or ill. That's why the Rede is often considered a law.
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