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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:33 pm
I'm all for throwing in my vote for Rummy. I'm just worried about how we'll pull it off with the whole alpha disappearing thing and the heir thing. That's the only problems I foresee.
My vote for what happens to the alpha? Perhaps a mix of the two ideas, the alpha goes off thanks to the voices in his head and one of the pack, who was envious of the alpha, goes out and makes sure he doesn't come back, only for the good of the pack? But if I must choose from the two then having him just off and disappear is the best of the two.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:28 am
You have my vote for Rummy as well, I didn't say anything about that before because I didn't think I really had a right to XD; Buuut if you're needing votes, then yep, you have mine.
Just put my boy down as 'lost' and I'll be happy <3
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:43 pm
Just in case this wasn't clear earlier, Milo has my vote as well. XD;
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:28 pm
Well, judging by the new hierarchy thread, I guess Rummy is the new Alpha now? ^^
I'd love to post my wolves there, except this leaves me with absolutely no idea what to do with Fallyn. I figured his fate (and resulting new rank if necessary) would be decided maybe by RP, 'cause even I'm not sure what's going to happen to him, unless I know what the other pack members are going to do regarding this sudden shift in power.
He's not going to suddenly go completely out of character and leap at a chance for power, but at the same time, while he's had no event to spur him to change his cowardly ways, he also would like very much not to die in this power shift. XD
Sooo, basically, I guess I'm asking how this change is going to happen from the RP standpoint. Is Rummy going to spontaneously step up and take charge by force, take advantage of chaos and disorder and simply slip into the vacant position, or what? Also, how is he going to go about setting up 'his' new pack?
I'll be honest, I'm highly disappointed that I'm not going to get to play the Heir as he was originally intended. I was so excited to play the character, to see where RP led him, if he would grow and change on his own, eventually rising to a characterization more befitting his position...
...so, I'm open to discussion and ideas about what to do with him. I'll likely hold off on posting either of my wolves in the hierarchy thread for now, 'til I figure this out. But, I am still watching and want to be involved, so thought I'd get this out, so I can get something decided as soon as possible. ^__^
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:56 pm
Teigra -- The manner in which Rummy takes over will mostly be decided in the RP (ie, it's up to the other members how the other wolves react and if he faces opposition.) However, I can tell you that he's not interested in killing any current members, even if they were part of Danel's inner circle. He's very pragmatic, and he knows the pack needs numbers right now.
There's a few things you could do. 1) Have Fallyn leave the pack, either because he's afraid or because he is jealous of Rummy taking over. (This, uh, isn't the one I would do, but it's there!) 2) Have Fallyn slide back into the position of heir. Rummy could probably be convinced to continue to train him for that position, since it would be easier than starting with a clean slate AND Rummy certainly wouldn't view him as a threat, based on past experience. 3) Have Fallyn stay in the pack as a lowly gamma, either happily in that position or resentful. You could even have him lead a mutiny, if you like.
Obviously I'm not going to tell you what to do with your character, but I'm not going to limit your options. If you'd like to reapply with Fallyn as the heir, I'd certainly give him a measure of precedence, since you DID go through the trouble of entering the RP contest with the assumption you'd get to play that position if you won.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:11 pm
*nodnod* It'd thought about those options, but wasn't sure which would work best for you. And I really didn't want to have him leave the pack...he'd probably be more afraid of that than dealing with its members right now anyway. rofl
So, here's what I think sounds like an idea. For now, I'll apply to keep Fallyn as the heir, holding his current position during the transition phase for continuity. He can hold that position if Rummy allows him to...and maybe even in the future, a challenge will arise and his position will be threatened. Depending on how RP develops, he'll either bow to the changes, sinking to the position of normal Gamma (and I like the idea of him being resentful about the change and possibly trying to do something about it later on), or he'll learn to stand up for himself, sparking that much needed character development necessary for his survival.
I'm fully for letting the RP and characters decide a majority of things for themselves, so with some basic guidance, I think I'll apply for him to, at least for now, retain his position as the heir during the transition and we'll see what develops later on. 3nodding
Least he's got one friend for support...even if Marrok annoys him more often than not. rofl Still, even a single supporter not out to get him might be the tie that keeps him from running at the very least.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:04 am
So, I've been contemplating this for a long time, and wanted to crawl into it methodically, so I've taken my time, and spoken with a few of you behind the scenes, and now I think it might be time to step up.
It's looking more and more likely that Milo isn't coming back, unfortunately. And I, for one, would like to see life breathed back into this pack. For me this has always been the most fascinating concept, and it's just so packed full of potential that I'm saddened to see it fall by the wayside. That, and I have a ton of plot I'd like to utilize Rorret for...and I can't really do it with his pack dead.
Now, I don't have a wolf worthy of the alpha position. Rorret, even if he wanted it, would be a terrible alpha -- and he has no desire for it, either. *I*, however, would OOCly love to own/co-own the pack, work to keep RP alive, move plots along, organize members, recruit new blood, create events, etc. I think one of the most challenging things of this pack, and a reason perhaps it never fully got off the ground, is that it's just too much work to expect a single individual to play the alpha AND run the pack all alone -- especially given how uniquely taxing RPing these wolves is compared to wolves who are free to socialize with strangers. Most packs are co-owned by the alphas, and I think a co-ownership situation here would be the most successful.
I think I'd be a good candidate to run the OOC aspects of this (and also RP Rorret in the role I created for him, amongst the pup-nappers to bring in new life). Most of you know me by now, I think, so you can make your own decisions about my "worthiness" I suppose -- but I'd like to think I'm one of the more active, enthusiastic, level-headed RPers in the shop, and I get along pretty well with everybody ^^; Now, I could custom a wolf for the job, and I will if it comes to that -- but I think it would be a little silly to do that if there were another option available to us. So many people's characters were developed with the original alpha in mind, and are now paralyzed due to that alpha's absence.
So I'm going to make a motion to resurrect the pack once more under Danel's banner, with myself as co-owner. I've spoken with Elros and it would seem that her real life situation has calmed down (time has passed, after all) and she is still very interested in returning to the shop and B-hood in general.
I think Danel resuming mantle as alpha makes more sense ICly than trying to find yet another alpha to step in. Too many characters are too tightly entwined in Danel's story to be usable otherwise, and I say if Elros is willing to resume the position, it would be ideal -- between the two of us, we could create plot, keep things organized, and bring in activity.
For the curious, I have a possible IC scenario to create a transition and hopefully breathe some life into the RP, as well. And I'll expound upon that, if I get some support in the matter smile
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:57 am
Well, I feel sort of silly offering my two cents as Fen has pretty much covered everything in her post but I recognize the need for some of you to see that I am indeed alive and acitve. So, here goes.
First things first. If you all are willing to accept Danel and I back into The Brotherhood, I would be more than willing to have him resume his title as Alpha. RL has indeed calmed down for me a bit. I have my own place now so I don't have to compete for use of the internet. But, in the same vein, things have picked up as well since I am now going to college and my financial situation isn't the best. But I think it's safe to say we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. That being said, I can't guarantee that RL won't draw me away from gaia again. I do go through bouts of writer's block and things can get hectic with school but, at the very least, as I've already discussed with Fen, I will make an effort to post at least once a week and more when I'm able.
If anyone has any concerns or questions of me, do feel free to PM and/or post them here.
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:01 am
I'd be glad to see the pack active again. Roleplay has been so, well, stagnant for me everywhere and I think BHood getting back in might breath some fresh air into my muse. Was always my favorite pack concept <3
Also, it would make most sense for Danel to return! I offer Okee up for any needed plotting c: <3
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:23 pm
I had chatted in PMs with Fen about this, but I'll throw my support in officially here. XD
I'm excited to see some activity in here again, as I was always so excited about getting to RP here, then disappointed when it never could seem to quite get off the ground.
I am all for plotting with Fallyn, the (former?) Heir, and Marrok, his self-appointed "buddy". rofl
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:49 am
Thanks for the support, guys. ^^ I just wish some more people had decided to post and add their two cents, too..
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:48 pm
*holds out hope for people to wander in here as the shop starts picking up*
I'll request a guild announcement later if we need to, so I can be sure we get an accurate number of votes cast.
Just as a brief update of what's been going on, since I've been carrying boldly on with the assumption that my plan would work (optimism, kids!):
--Rorret has made machinations to make babby, and if things go according to plan once breedings open I'll be running a pup contest for some new life up ins. --I've written up some possible re-vamps for all the guild threads here, to fill in some of the gaps that are missing about the pack's laws, customs, territory, etc. I'll run it all by DT to clear it o'course and any pack leaderfolk that want a say in it. --Elros and I have been RPing to start moving pieces into place plot-wise to explain everything and fill in the story. Will continue working through things IC-ly with anyone/everyone who has time, so we can straighten out IC business.
And that's what's going on around here smile
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:32 pm
Sorry im so late on this, My vote has always been for Danel. And i just have questions about breeding rights, I want to breed Xihuitl with another female (who will be taken hostage for the time when she is prego and will be kept away from pack activities.) I just wanted to know what everyone thought of that?
And when are we gongi to vote upon the betas and such? Or will it just be chosen by alpha?
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:00 pm
Elros and I discussed this a bit as Rorret is also making babby as previously noted. OOCly, I'm not going to say "no, no breeding of Brotherhood wolves", but I will caution that if it becomes *too* widespread that I would then rein it back. It's against the spirit of the pack; they're thieves and cannibals, yes, but not necessarily a group of slavering rapists, and it was that sort of behavior (among other things) that got the traitor kicked out. And god help you if you actually start to have *feelings* for the girl, that would be even more damning against you.
But, if there's a good justification for it and you accept the possibility of IC consequences, then I wouldn't say no.
ICly, bear in mind that right now the pack is in shambles. The alphas are both MIA. The betas are pretty "elsewhere". All the old members are scattered out who-knows-where and things in the pack are probably pretty chaotic. If ever there were a time to break some rules and get by with it, it's now.
But if you were to breed, you'd want to be pretty tight-lipped about it, because there is nothing keeping the other wolves from kicking your a**, killing you, or chasing you out if they find you. You'll have to do some pretty careful hiding of your tracks, and for the sake of the female it'd probably be best if you kept her far from home. (of course, right now you'd have a good excuse to be away from the territory -- you could say you were looking for the traitor and that's why you've been gone).
So, short version, I personally will not deny breedings of Brotherhood wolves, but ONLY if there's good plot justification and you're willing to accept possible IC consequences. And if it doesn't get out of hand.
But that's open to discussion of course smile
NOW, as far as deciding on Betas.
I've been trying to get Yuna in here to speak on the topic and she's not very RP-minded lately so more than likely we'll be looking at a fresh set of ranked members. Which would make sense, given the political turmoil in the pack.
Once we have the ownership official and it's clear who is still interested in the pack/active enough to sustain membership, we'll see about an official ranked member application process.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:21 pm
If Danel comes back as alpha, I'll be bringing Betzalel back as well, who has been trying to find Danel and, if you're ok with it, Elros, we can do some plotting between the two of them to maybe cover whether or not Betzalel found him, etc?
As far as Dustiel goes, well, i figure that would be a mix of how things are decided oocly and how things go icly. Dustiel is an arrogant little b*****d who has always hated and been a rival with Betzalel ever since his admission in to the pack as a pup, and would not be happy to see Betzalel back.
But like I said, I'd like to do some plotting with you, Elros, if that is alright. =3
I'm not much for RP, but I love to plot, and if plots can somehow be summed up so that the rest of the members know what went on, that's cool beans. Maybe have an announcement thread where all members can be like "Ok, here is a summery of what went down in this RP" or "it was decided that such and such happened, but there's no RP done" so that players here can be kept in the loop without having to read all through an RP.
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