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Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:37 am


I don't care which religion is it, no one should be allowed to break the law for any reason.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:41 am


Yea I'm sorry if this offends anyone but i hate Missions because even though it helps the community by giving them stuff they need such as medicine its in the name of God or whatever religion there preaching that they get help, I really hate missions because it destroys the culture and religions they go to. I wouldn't mind so much if they were there as a charity thing and tell people about there religion IF ASKED about it but not just open sermons in random villages. I do have to say people going door to door is annoying because you have to stand there and listen to them for however long and take the random papers they give you when you know and I'm sure they know your gonna recycle them but you can't shut the door because its rude. jeez theses people have that really thought out.

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Someoneiknow

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:09 am


In Medias Res IV
Why is it called "mission"? To me that just screams "Militant!"

And why is it so damn important to go into countries with their own religions, cultures, customs, and traditions (much of which you don't even understand) and push a religion on them that they obviously don't want?

I'm sure many of you would start freaking out if Sharia Law was being forced upon us, what makes your preaching of Jesus to others any different?


Maybe you could humble yourself and then see why so many people flock to these "missionaries".
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:46 am


Shiori Miko
I don't care which religion is it, no one should be allowed to break the law for any reason.


I agree

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Semiremis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:14 am


Zslone2
Yea I'm sorry if this offends anyone but i hate Missions because even though it helps the community by giving them stuff they need such as medicine its in the name of God or whatever religion there preaching that they get help, I really hate missions because it destroys the culture and religions they go to. I wouldn't mind so much if they were there as a charity thing and tell people about there religion IF ASKED about it but not just open sermons in random villages. I do have to say people going door to door is annoying because you have to stand there and listen to them for however long and take the random papers they give you when you know and I'm sure they know your gonna recycle them but you can't shut the door because its rude. jeez theses people have that really thought out.


Not all forms of missionary work evangelize but anyways, for the ones that do how do they destroy the culture and religion?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:19 am


Semiremis
Zslone2
Yea I'm sorry if this offends anyone but i hate Missions because even though it helps the community by giving them stuff they need such as medicine its in the name of God or whatever religion there preaching that they get help, I really hate missions because it destroys the culture and religions they go to. I wouldn't mind so much if they were there as a charity thing and tell people about there religion IF ASKED about it but not just open sermons in random villages. I do have to say people going door to door is annoying because you have to stand there and listen to them for however long and take the random papers they give you when you know and I'm sure they know your gonna recycle them but you can't shut the door because its rude. jeez theses people have that really thought out.


Not all forms of missionary work evangelize but anyways, for the ones that do how do they destroy the culture and religion?
Evangelizing causes people to throw away the culture that their ancestors along with countless traditions. It causes people to throw away the religion of their ancestors in favor of a new one. I causes dissent among the populace. In the past many rulers would ban missionaries from places like America and Britain for fear of losing grip among their civilians and the country. A famous example I can remember would be of Hideyoshi Toyotomi.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:01 pm


-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden
Semiremis
Zslone2
Yea I'm sorry if this offends anyone but i hate Missions because even though it helps the community by giving them stuff they need such as medicine its in the name of God or whatever religion there preaching that they get help, I really hate missions because it destroys the culture and religions they go to. I wouldn't mind so much if they were there as a charity thing and tell people about there religion IF ASKED about it but not just open sermons in random villages. I do have to say people going door to door is annoying because you have to stand there and listen to them for however long and take the random papers they give you when you know and I'm sure they know your gonna recycle them but you can't shut the door because its rude. jeez theses people have that really thought out.


Not all forms of missionary work evangelize but anyways, for the ones that do how do they destroy the culture and religion?
Evangelizing causes people to throw away the culture that their ancestors along with countless traditions. It causes people to throw away the religion of their ancestors in favor of a new one. I causes dissent among the populace. In the past many rulers would ban missionaries from places like America and Britain for fear of losing grip among their civilians and the country. A famous example I can remember would be of Hideyoshi Toyotomi.


Evangelizing is a form of freedom of speech and expression, it does not cause people to throw away the culture of their ancestors, it introduces them to a new religion and perhaps the traditions of foreign culture. I'm all for the religious freedom and tolerance of others but everyone should be able to have the right to share their religion and those hearing it have the right to disagree with it and stick to their own. Cultural integration happens, so does change and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:11 pm


Semiremis
-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden
Semiremis
Zslone2
Yea I'm sorry if this offends anyone but i hate Missions because even though it helps the community by giving them stuff they need such as medicine its in the name of God or whatever religion there preaching that they get help, I really hate missions because it destroys the culture and religions they go to. I wouldn't mind so much if they were there as a charity thing and tell people about there religion IF ASKED about it but not just open sermons in random villages. I do have to say people going door to door is annoying because you have to stand there and listen to them for however long and take the random papers they give you when you know and I'm sure they know your gonna recycle them but you can't shut the door because its rude. jeez theses people have that really thought out.


Not all forms of missionary work evangelize but anyways, for the ones that do how do they destroy the culture and religion?
Evangelizing causes people to throw away the culture that their ancestors along with countless traditions. It causes people to throw away the religion of their ancestors in favor of a new one. I causes dissent among the populace. In the past many rulers would ban missionaries from places like America and Britain for fear of losing grip among their civilians and the country. A famous example I can remember would be of Hideyoshi Toyotomi.


Evangelizing is a form of freedom of speech and expression, it does not cause people to throw away the culture of their ancestors, it introduces them to a new religion and perhaps the traditions of foreign culture. I'm all for the religious freedom and tolerance of others but everyone should be able to have the right to share their religion and those hearing it have the right to disagree with it and stick to their own. Cultural integration happens, so does change and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Well the Chinese Empress I forgot her name...didn't think it of that way especially with the Boxer Rebellion neither did Hideyoshi Toyotomi nor the Samurai. neutral

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:02 pm


-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden
Evangelizing causes people to throw away the culture that their ancestors along with countless traditions. It causes people to throw away the religion of their ancestors in favor of a new one. I causes dissent among the populace. In the past many rulers would ban missionaries from places like America and Britain for fear of losing grip among their civilians and the country. A famous example I can remember would be of Hideyoshi Toyotomi.
I wouldn't say that this is the case all of the time. I know plenty who do mission work in Indonesia and Africa, and the people who have become Christian haven't thrown away their culture or given up countless traditions. Especially in Indonesia, where most everyone there is Muslim. Everyone that I've heard of through my friends that have been there still hold to their Muslim culture and traditions in some respects.

Of course, though, it can be the case sometimes.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:50 pm


Agreed but still it just bugs me they think they have a right to go to a Country that doesn't want to hear them. I mean honestly people must have gone there in the past and tried and the people didn't want them then so they probably established the rule so it wouldn't happen again. I just hate people preaching about w/e on and on when people don't wanna hear it. I don't hate all the work Missions do like bring medicine to help the population is fine and all but don't label it as this is the work of so and so and he/she calls for you to worship him/her.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:55 pm


I think you should help people for the sake of helping them, not as a vehicle to spread your religious beliefs neutral
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:01 pm


Sanguina Cruenta
I think you should help people for the sake of helping them, not as a vehicle to spread your religious beliefs neutral


Why assume that they help people only to spread their beliefs?

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Shmearwhiz

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:22 am


Semiremis
Sanguina Cruenta
I think you should help people for the sake of helping them, not as a vehicle to spread your religious beliefs neutral


Why assume that they help people only to spread their beliefs?


Because it just so happens that people go around the world to spread Christianity. Their priorities are pretty much: if we spread out beliefs it'll save these good people, therefore we are helping them.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:22 am


Shmearwhiz
Semiremis
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I think you should help people for the sake of helping them, not as a vehicle to spread your religious beliefs neutral


Why assume that they help people only to spread their beliefs?


Because it just so happens that people go around the world to spread Christianity. Their priorities are pretty much: if we spread out beliefs it'll save these good people, therefore we are helping them.


Humanitarian Mission work makes up a large part of the missionary work at least when it comes to the Catholic Church. A few years back we sent some people over to Afghanistan to help rebuild the center of their community. The Catholic preach in charge had to set down guidelines with the Imam and in the end they both agreed that the Catholic priest leading this mission was the only one allowed to carry a bible for his own use and to lead the other Catholics in their group. Their was no proselytizing allowed. They got along find while rebuilding the mosque (for the most part) and when they were finished the missionaries returned home.

It's not always all about forcing your beliefs onto others and I'm against any missionary work that advocates that sort of approach.

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Someoneiknow

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:39 pm


Shmearwhiz
Semiremis
Sanguina Cruenta
I think you should help people for the sake of helping them, not as a vehicle to spread your religious beliefs neutral


Why assume that they help people only to spread their beliefs?


Because it just so happens that people go around the world to spread Christianity. Their priorities are pretty much: if we spread out beliefs it'll save these good people, therefore we are helping them.


After hurricane katrina many LDS people and missionaries went down to help the victims rebuild and restore their community, and non of it was in an excuse to proselyte.
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