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 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:50 pm
i only wish i had a little brother!
anyway, im not allowed to talk about my sexuality or religion either. my mother is catholic. she still holds true to me "dancing with the devil" becasue of what i believe. plus i have to hide my pentagrams, stow away my altar, and keep all my magickal stuff in a locked wooden box that my great-grandmother gave me (she was christian but supported me wholly when i told her i was pagan. i miss her, she died last christmas eve. i remember because i bought her a glass poodle - her fav. dog) and i have to study when its, like, midnight and no one's awake and i study vigorously in the summer time when i sneak on the computer and walk 8 miles to the nearest library to order books. that or i walk to my friend's house because she's pagan and so is her family and they help me out immensely (i stow some of my studies there, her mother teaches me stuff (like how to use tarot cards and how to scry, etc.). and if im very lucky, i get a ride to barnes and noble when i have money and buy books on wicca and paganism... but i rarely have money, or a ride crying .
as for the sexuality thing, i get it over here. but im (literally) not allowed to have friends or boy/girlfriends because my parents want to keep me "pure and simple". i swear they do everything but put a metal chastity belt on me (ref. to 'robin hood: men in tights' haha). but what they fail to realize is that the harder they crack down, the more likely i am to lie to them and do sneaky things and get away with it. heck, i dont think they realize that i've already had sex with girls and a guy. (which b.t.w i personally would recommend not having sex until you get married to those of you who are reading this and havent had sex yet.. just my personal advice.) its normal for fathers to be protective of their daughters, though. they know how they probably acted towards girls when they were younger and want to protect you from boys who may act like b^tt heads.
but i do wish you the very best and perhaps if you sit down with your mother and have a serious talk about this problem, she MIGHT not be so hard about it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:32 pm
 I'm the only child, so I don't actually have to worry about that happening to me. But the troll (I refuse to call that woman "mother") of the house is already sitting on my neck with her annoying Christian beliefs (now now, I wouldn't mind this all, but the situation can definitely be called "fanatic"), so I don't even speak my mind out so much, only because I don't want to hear the endless rants later on how I chose wrong in life, how I'll end up in hell and all that damn shizz. I told the troll that I'm pagan only once and that already was enough.
I've given up hope on that woman years ago.
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:47 pm
I find that hard-headed ignorant stubborn people are difficult to reason with. rolleyes I am blessed, at least, to have a rather open-minded mother (which makes me feel bad, considering what I've read of everyone else's posts) but she too gets upset with me for "converting" my little sister (who is eleven and undecided on her religion...she's a baptized Catholic who more than anything wants to be a Fae Witch) and has called me "heathen" on more than one occasion. Considering the definition of "heathen", she's techincally right, but since I haven't even figured out which diety I believe exists yet, it is unfair for her to coldly judge me then change the subject before I can defend my case. You see, she was going to become Wiccan when she was younger, but the day before her initiation she saw a very vivid dream about Satan. Now she's a nonpracticing Catholic who feels like she's failed her God because of my religious beliefs. And don't even get me started on my grandmother...! xD
I can relate concerning keeping beliefs a secret, though. In my house, I generally can say what I want (considering Mum knows a bit about this...and I'm kinda converting her lmao), but I live in a little rathole town that (believe it or not) has around seven churches (but no Catholic churches) and passes out Protestant pamphlets on how all Catholics and non-Protestants will die on Judgement Day. rolleyes Lovely town. XD
But anyway, I would give advice, but since this thread is a little old I will spare you. xP
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:02 pm
 © Robin Wood 1997
Mommy and I are very close; we always have been. We live with my grandparents, and I'm an only child, and she's sort of more like my sister than my mom. I was raised Roman Catholic, but a few years ago I started to question the religion. Recently, I abandoned it altogether (and told my mom and grandparents about it) and have been searching. At the beginning of this year, I found Wicca, and have been trying to tell my mom. I printed off web page after web page explaining it, and put it together in a pamphlet. The only thing she really made an upset comment on was that it compared spells to prayers. I added in that they were sorta like the Hail Mary and the Our Father, and she flew off the handle. Now she wants to deprogram me.
; _ ;
Can't drive yet, so I have nowhere to go, really. I used to be allowed to wander around in the woods around my backyard, when the nice old man lived next to us, but he's in the Summerlands now. Now we have a stupid hick neighbor.
Plus, the neighbors didn't yell at me for trespassing when I was shorter and a cute little kid. Now when I run around the woods behind the neighborhood I might get chased after and shot at. D :
There's no escape!
© Robin Wood 1997
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:54 pm
You know, it's something; I was watching channel one (at school. Some HS have it, some don't) and there was a poll question a while back that you could answer asking "Are you going to follow your parent's same religion?" And I believe I remember the polls being weighed in favor fo yes. It's cool if you feel comfortable with the religion you were born into, but it's a whole nother story if your parents actively try to stop you from believing in what you feel you should, or try to stop you from talking about what you don't feel is immoral like sex.
My brother's a buddhist and I'm a Witch and surprisingly, my mom is cool with that. My family was never overtly religious, even though I did go to a catholic school the whole time I was in elementary. one of the truer things my mom's told me is to never forget who you are.
I think that's what it's really all about. Maybe it's adding on to who you are is what some folks don't understand. And you know...? maybe that's the issue... Sorry your ma's headstrong about it. sad
Sorry if this post seems a bit disjointed. I'm still waking up.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:02 am
My aunt did that. My cousin is 4 years younger than me. She was raised Catholic. Now, let me add, that my cousin was already stealing my Wiica books and trying to make tools. In fact, I was trying to get my books from my cousin!
I was asking my aunt if Misty had this particular book. I nicely said "Aunt Wilma, have you seen Misty with any strange books? Like a Wicca book? I lost mine."
She gave me a dirty look and asked me to kindly not bring that subject up around impressionable young ones. She didn't need me to influence a "Proper Christian" to look into the ways of the devil. I was shocked. My aunt is one of the sweetest people I know. So I dropped it and went and got my book!
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:14 pm
I cant truely relate but I did have an argument with my mother before christmas time...
heres the sitch; since my mother didnt have her own laptop at the time she would use mine and for months I had a folder on my desktop titled 'wicca' and she would alway have to log off my account or switch users. Well it wasnt until she decided to do some snooping cuz she was looking for a different file completely and got bored. Heck I get home, she gets home later and she tells me that she found it and I pretty much said "what took you so long" as I have been making it pretty obvious (or at least to me) and we got into an arguement in which one of the first things she says is I dont want you skinning the cats! and you are a christian and that we belong to the brethren churche (which was a shocker to me as I didnt know we belonged to a church). See my family has never really been church goers and they never really taught me or my sister anything about christianity aside from us have childrens bibles that they barely red to us as kids, so we've pretty much been free to do what we want.
Anyway we go and stay at my aunts for christmas and my mother tells my relatives what she found out and none of them really cared and just accepted my decision. Then with the occasional questions about wicca my aunt (who according to my mother studied wicca for a short time) tried to answer what she could and I helped of course. In the end the only thing that was really brought up after that was if I was okay with them praying at dinner smile (of course I didnt have a problem that, I've ignored it before rofl ). and that was pretty much it...
oh yeah and I found out that their house was haunted! It was quite the weekend!
no I only have to keep it a secret from my dad as I would not like a reaction similar to my mothers...(wow this is lengthy)
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:50 pm
I absolutely understand your situation in your first post, actually I have to hand it to Paganism. It drove my dad to finally blow up and scream exactly how he felt about me...I was really wondering when it was going to happen xD! Anyway, Paganism, like any other life style, is a decision made by the individual and other individuals sometimes feel that they have to control or have a say in what your own life style must entail. Which...really aggitates me and is not permissible. Anyway, as my niece would say, "You go girl!"
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:12 am
I know how you guys feel. I'm afraid to tell my parents I'm a wiccan because it would definently reach my grandma, whom is hardcore christian. (my cousin knows but she's cool with it)
And a lot of you said you have a hard time keeping books from your parents veiws. Try getting a PDA and e-books? There's plenty of free ones out there you can use. (i have a palm and i use plucker e-reader)
I can't find toomany books on Wicca, but there is plenty on gutenberg on plantts and herbs! =3
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:29 pm
there are plenty of books on Wicca out there actually, if you want real books I would go to Barns and Nobles, ask for the New Age section and you will be confronted with a shelf that could take on a line backer...
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