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| Election Poll: The New Avantgarde Governor |
| Darkend_Angel |
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31% |
[ 7 ] |
| Leowen |
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36% |
[ 8 ] |
| TheDDRRhyno |
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31% |
[ 7 ] |
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| Total Votes : 22 |
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 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:47 pm
TheDDRRhyno Locke Trufeld TheDDRRhyno Locke Trufeld I only backed him up because he was being pushed with lies. Do you think I, the SwordNamed Truth, would allow that? If you or Dark were to be in the same position, I would've done the same for you. Don't call me a hypocrite. I still haven't voted for anyone.
And sure, he hasn't made his character.. in the Vanguardian Axis. He lets me in on some stuff in IM, and I suggested him to post his info here. I'm sure he's working on it. He has told me how his new character, Alexander will be, with brief details, and enough ways for it to make sense.
And wouldn't the same apply for Rico? How would you know he'll be a nice person? Just because of 6 years of experience with him? Right now, he's not very nice to me, just because I wouldn't give him mod powers.
Now, aside from all these experience, I've had a very deep experience in Leadership itself, as you may know in a group called UPF, which consisted of over 200 people at one point. If you're saying I'm not making a very educated guess, then once again, that's the same as you insulting my judgement as the successful leader that I was in UPF. I say this for the good of the community, and I'm not picking sides. I'm only drawing out the Pros and Cons of the candidates. That's all. 1. Kaz, your sword means nothing. Also, elaborate. What lies was he being pushed of? Vicki's opinion? 2. I called you a hypocrite because you told me you weren't going to side for anyone. You even said yourself that this election means nothing to you. Then why didn't you just let the candidates and anyone else who actually CARED about it to handle it? 3. You have nothing. No one in this RP besides you and Leowen know anything about his character. Even if he is going to be nice, would you vote for someone who you have NO CLUE about? No? I didn't think so. 4. I'm not being polite to you because you're being an a*****e. To me and to Vicki. And I'm not mad at you for not making me crew. I knew you were going to reject. 5. I wasn't around in your UPF days so I'm going to leave that alone. 6. Candidates? Um, don't you mean candidate? And don't mention me. You haven't said any pros about me, and Darkend hasn't been brought up since her speech.
2. Because it's not fair. Vicki deletes his speech, tells lies about him, and you think the SwordNamed Truth would be fine with it? I'm making it fair for everyone. That's all. It's not siding with anyone, since I'd do it for you if you were to be in the same position. And I did it because he talks to me more than anyone else, I believe. After all, I am the leader, and know how things work around here.
3. Look, I said he'll be putting it here soon. He's not even online right now, for Pete's sake! And I do have some clue about Alexander. Either way, I'm not voting anyway.
4. I'm being an a*****e? How would that be? I don't see how I'm being an a*****e to you two, unless you two were the ones that started with something instead.
5. That would be fine.
6. Like I said in number 2, I would say the Pros and Cons if they were meantioned in a negative way.1. I know what the SwordNamed Truth is. I just don't give a damn about it. Vicki was just sharing her personal and out of character experience with Leowen, and with what she's been telling me, I'm not buying it. 2. She deleted his speech for retaliation. She told no lies about him. You're not making it fair. Chris spread propoganda of Leowen, therefore Vicki did the same for me. I was in the same position also, I even ASKED you to even things out. You didn't. Stop lying. 3. You said yourself, the election is almost over. He should've had that down when he posted his speech. It's too late. 4. Must I copy and paste what you have said to us? 6. I have no idea what you're talking about.
2. Let's count the things that's a Pro and Con to what happened in the election for Leowen.
Pros. Ankoku Gitsune's propoganda.
Me.
Cons. Vicki deleting his speech.
Vicki telling lies about him.
There's 2 on both sides! Doesn't that mean now it's equal? If not, isn't the cons more serious anyway?
3. He wasn't even home during the few days before the election started. Isn't that cheap as it is, as some people has voted without even being able to see Leowen's speech?
4. Now what have I said to you? If I would know what I had said, I would know what you did that made me say it, and also the cause of all of this as well.
6. In other words, I'm not one-sided like Vicki is. I'm defending everyone, if they were to be told about with lies like how Vicki did.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:49 pm
TheDDRRhyno Locke Trufeld TheDDRRhyno Locke Trufeld TheDDRRhyno Partisus If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this. Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response. 1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not. 2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better. 3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.
2. Yes it would. It grabs people's attentions. Gives them ideas of what things are in the RP. The same reason why Grand Vanguard needs a map of the Vanguard City. o.o; That reminds me..
3. He HAS meantioned his past experiences with many things. The only problem is, Vicki deleted his long speech. So you can't say that.1. Do we know that? Does anyone else besides you and Leowen know that? No. I was just responding to him saying that thing about nice people and governors. 2. It really wouldn't help that much. It would help them know what it looks like, but not improve it. 3. I meant you, not Leowen.
2. Must I have a poll about this?
3. Well, like number 5 of the previous one, you weren't there. Should you drop this or not, it's your choice. 1. It's really too late for him to do that anymore. The election is halfway over. 2. No, because I'm telling you now, it will not make the RP tons better. Sure it will improve it a little and make it look a little nicer. But it won't help him run Avantgarde. 3. What the hell are you talking about?
2. So it does improve it a little. There. Small things count too, you know.
3. You basically said the same thing in number 5 on the other post.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:54 pm
Partisus 1. No. I said that voting for someone because the person is "nice" is a bad idea. Trying to please everyone just makes things worse, in general. A governor needs to know how to balance being "nice" and doing what is necessary, no matter what people think. 2. They would help give an idea of what is being referred to, so that people get the right idea, instead of everyone thinking that it is something different. Why do you think comics are so popular? Why do you think the pictures are on the main page of this very RP? They show you just what is going on. If we had no use for pictures, we wouldn't have eyes. 3. Oh, really? Locke Trufeld Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.
And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said. You see that one? Maybe you didn't see it because of the small font. I'll post it larger to make it easier to read. Locke Trufeld with quite a lot of his experiences. Any questions? 1. She didn't mean just vote for me because I'm nice. She meant it's better than someone who is mean. 2. You guys are missing my point. IT WILL NOT HELP LEOWEN RUN AVANTGARDE BETTER! Of course it would help people imagine it better and make it a tad bit more interesting, but that wasn't my point. 3. I meant RP-wise, not graphic-wise. You still contradicted yourself. Shall I prove my point? Of course: "Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this." Im assuming you meant running the RP. With Kaz following up that statement with graphics, I'm pretty sure he meant graphics-wise. Now. I will be the bigger one and end this pointless feuding. Good day.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:02 pm
TheDDRRhyno Partisus 1. No. I said that voting for someone because the person is "nice" is a bad idea. Trying to please everyone just makes things worse, in general. A governor needs to know how to balance being "nice" and doing what is necessary, no matter what people think. 2. They would help give an idea of what is being referred to, so that people get the right idea, instead of everyone thinking that it is something different. Why do you think comics are so popular? Why do you think the pictures are on the main page of this very RP? They show you just what is going on. If we had no use for pictures, we wouldn't have eyes. 3. Oh, really? Locke Trufeld Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.
And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said. You see that one? Maybe you didn't see it because of the small font. I'll post it larger to make it easier to read. Locke Trufeld with quite a lot of his experiences. Any questions? 1. She didn't mean just vote for me because I'm nice. She meant it's better than someone who is mean. 2. You guys are missing my point. IT WILL NOT HELP LEOWEN RUN AVANTGARDE BETTER! Of course it would help people imagine it better and make it a tad bit more interesting, but that wasn't my point. 3. I meant RP-wise, not graphic-wise. You still contradicted yourself. Shall I prove my point? Of course: "Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this." Im assuming you meant running the RP. With Kaz following up that statement with graphics, I'm pretty sure he meant graphics-wise. Now. I will be the bigger one and end this pointless feuding. Good day.
2. Who said graphics were the ONLY thing good about Leowen? You're misssing all of HIS experiences now.
3. I said Experiences, haven't I? I was talking about both. Have you not seen his RP posts? They're better than mine, since I've been so rusty being with you people for 6 years.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:10 pm
1. I'll let the facts speak for themselves Vickicat I suggest voting for TheDDRRhyno then. He is a nice person, and I know he will make a great govenor. I know for a fact that Leowen can be bossy and has to have things his way, and if he decided he didn't like your mission, he wouldn't let you do it. So vote for TheDDRRhyno. wink 2. As you stated in your speech, your goal was to make the RP more interesting. You also stated that images would help this. Who is contradicting himself? 3. OK, it looks like our interpretations were different for that one. I apologize. I thought that he simply didn't put an "and" there. I guess recognizing his writing style comes from reading other stuff that he has written. Nice attempt to save your credibility there. Kudos to you. I will still put the facts forward for the people who will be voting in this election. Sorry if that disappoints you.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:17 pm
*she looks at the other posts* @_@ I think you should just vote for the person you like the best and the one you want to be govener. Fighting over things like you said you wheren't going to take sides, or saying you should vote for this person, cause of this, this, and this, is just going to get people upset. So why do it? I think people should just vote or do what they think is best. Everyone has their ups and downs, so there's no point in saying he's better for the job or he's doesn't do this right. If you think a person is right for the job, then just vote for them and stop arguing about it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:38 pm
geeze I leave for one day to reformat my computer and all hell breaks out. I dont want a huge fight over this... and just for the record, notice that both Dark and I havent been mud-flinging her, unlike Rhyno, keep that in mind...
Will graphics make me a better gov.? no, it wont, obviously, but it allows me to enhance many aspects of the RP. I wont even get into the whole Vicki thing because im sure the whole story isnt being told and its not worth the fight...
You want a character profile? Fine, Ill have it done by tonight. You want testimonials from other's Ive RPed with? Fine, Ill get those, though I'm restricted to how fast they can get them...
--leowen
PS. And of course ill let you go on a salvage mission, Im not some dictator, I dont controll other people against their will.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:51 pm
...Wow...
You're missing the bigger picture guys. This is more or less a choice left to myself and Locke DEPENDING ON how the next governor does. Fighting like children will NOT please me or anyone else. If this keeps on as-is then something will be done, just remember that. Now let's try and act like civilized adults(vicki and rico), ok?
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:36 am
Name: Alexander Fedelki Age: 25 Height: 6'0" Race: Human Appearance:  Weapons: -Broad Reverse Rapier -VO-159 Sniper Rifle Personality: Very kind and caring, soft spoken with a soothing voice. Agrees most of the time with everyone unless they do somthing he feels is immoral. Follows a code of honor that once existed on the ancient planet known as Terra that was followed by a clan of Holy Knights. History: Alexander once served on Locke's fleet that hunted down an infamous Pirate force and lead the attack on the Pirates flagship. He soon left after the operation was completed to take a job as a bodyguard to a Mrs. Rayne Detravon. Once his charge died at the early age of 83, Alexander set out and lived a short while as a vigilate of sorts, killing off some rouges in peacful systems untill he recieved the call by Locke for a new govoner of a station. Wanting to reunite and work again with his old friend, Alexander charted a course for Grand Vanguard and hit the thrusters on his ship to max...
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:42 pm
Quote: In the year or so I've known Leowen, I have seen him RP quite a few times, so I have a pretty good idea as to how he RPs. He's a pretty good RPer, he usually stays on topic in the story, and doesn't add too much crap to take up space. He writes well, and he isn't too picky as the leader of the RPs I've seen him start. I would recommend him to be a leader for RPs because he is more than able to do so. ~~Mystic Gohan Admin. of FFFreak Forums
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:19 pm
so like....scince its past the end date....im the new gov.? right?
--leowen
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:11 pm
Oh, yes. Leowen, you are now the new governor of Avantgarde. Also, I would like to thank the other candidates for trying out for the place as well.
o_o The results were very close... Dang. Anyway, this thread will be changed from announcements to a normal thread now.
I'll be looking forward to your work as the new governor of Avantgarde.
... Btw, I'm gonna have to update your ID Card. That is, if you want me to do it. If not, last 5 Digits will be changed to 00001 now, and in your ID Card, have it say that you're the Avantgarde Governor.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:15 pm
well its not the same character so I'd need another ID card for him...
--leowen
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:21 pm
Oh yeah.. o.o' multiple ID Cards.. Hm.. How should this work? o.o' The username thing, and... what not.. If we allow ID Cards per character, a lot of things will change around. @_@
I guess have a mix of the two characters, or just concentrate on your main character or something.
Though that'd be Leowen Dravon, I'd still suggest changing the ID Number to A-####-00001 for organization reasons. x_x
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:24 pm
seems like i was a little late
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