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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:11 am

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Wow, Hollow, that's scary. surprised

And turns out that last year's shooter and this year's shooter knew each other. They'd bought their weapons (that were 100% matching) from the same shop in Jokela, where last year's happenings took place. confused

Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:27 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:48 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

Exactly. They should certainly make it more strict.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:58 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:46 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:56 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

It is the same in Britain. You only have to be 14 to be able to use an air rifle though, and it is still possible to kill a person with one of those

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:10 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

Is NYC that crime infested? confused

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:24 pm

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

Is NYC that crime infested? confused

NYC used to be terrible until juliani cleaned it up. but yeah, in NYC you need a permit just to buy ammo. whereas in a place like maine, all you have to do is pass a background check, unless you want to concealed carry. then you need a permit. but you could open carry in maine if you wanted to.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:43 pm

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

You need an FID card to buy guns in MA, except not BB guns.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:27 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

There are some places like that here in Amercia too. I agree with Kas there should be more strict background check of a customer that wants to buy guns.

every place in america is supposed to be doing background checks and such. you dont necessarily need a permit to buy (except in special places like NYC) but you do need to pass a background check. some places might fake them, but every place is supposed to do one.

You need an FID card to buy guns in MA, except not BB guns.

what's FID stand for, again?

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:32 am

It was on the news today that from now on everyone who wants to get a firearm gets their background checked twice by two separe officials. Also your mental balance gets checked, and your background in the army. Like this week's shooter had been kicked out of the army due to his mental instability. If that had been checked, he wouldn't have got a gun. confused

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:12 am

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It was on the news today that from now on everyone who wants to get a firearm gets their background checked twice by two separe officials. Also your mental balance gets checked, and your background in the army. Like this week's shooter had been kicked out of the army due to his mental instability. If that had been checked, he wouldn't have got a gun. confused

Well at least it's tighter now, so the chances of it happening again have decreased

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:22 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

*Virginia Tech flashback*

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:29 am

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Can you buy guns freely in Finland? Or do you need some sort of authorization from police or whatever?

You need to get a permit for to carry a weapon. I don't know where you can get one from though. The main reason to get a gun here is to hunt animals, and it was on the news that some places (where you can get the permit) don't even ask any questions about your background, don't check if you have a criminal record, don't check if you have mental problems or how long you've been practising shooting. And I'm not sure if they've already raised the age to 18 (when it used to be / still is 15). The law of owning a firearm is going to be radically changed now and the places who give you the permit will get strict instructions to rank out people who shouldn't get a weapon permit.

*Virginia Tech flashback*

the problem with VT was that he hadn't actually been instituted, so under state law, there was nothing that could prevent him from buying a gun.

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