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 Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:03 pm
Ranginui He gave mixed signals. His hand twitched when he made the bond yet when he did indeed have to kill Dumbledore he looked at him with pure hatred. Although that could very well have been for show. Snape is a toughie to figure out. Couldn't it be possible that the pure hate was because Dumbledore had ordered him to kill him. I know if someone made me promise to kill them I'd hate them or at least be extremly angry.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:24 am
I don't really know.... I mean, I'd like to believe he's an evil b*****d, but in all honesty- it was too easy of a setup. I think it was just a ruse to throw us off, and give Harry his chance to eternally hate Snape with a reason. Who knows, maybe I'm over thinking this....
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:30 am
I got this via email. Therefore, I think that there is a possibility of Snape's innocence.
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
DUMBLEDORE IS NOT DEAD
There has been a lot of speculation since the release of Harry Potter and
the Half Blood Prince as to whether Dumbledore is really dead or not.
The fact is that only JK knows for sure. She has had the HP series plotted
out for many years, and only she knows what revelations the final episode
will bring. In fact, she can change what happens in book 7: she can write
it so that he is dead or that he isn't. HP lives in JK's writing and only
she can decide what happens to the characters in Harry's last year at Hogwarts.
But dealing with the here and now and the information we have learnt in the
first six books, there has to be a major questionmark over whether
Dumbledore is really dead or not. Here are some points that make you think
- although, of course, we might all just be in denial and unable to face up
to the fact that he has gone. Is all this mere wishful thinking:
(1) When JK killed off Cedric in the Goblet of Fire, she publicly stated
how sad she felt at killing off one of her characters. There hasn't been
such heartfelt feelings of loss from JK over Dumbledore, and yet amongst
her readers the sense of loss has been palpable. Is this an indication that
JK knows that good news is somewhere just around the corner?
(2) Book 6 is unlike all the preceding 5 books. Usually, at the end of a HP
book we get a chapter where the twists and turns are, at least partially,
explained to us. In HP 6, there is no such chapter. An HP book without
clever twists and turns? An HP book where what you see is what you get?
Doesn't fit the mould of the series so far. Is that because the twists and
turns can only be explained in book 7?
(3) Dumbledore is considered to be a truly great wizard. Is he really going
to let Malfoy get the better of him? If an average 16/17 year old wizard in
training can catch Dumbledore off guard, then surely he'd have succumbed to
Voldemort and his followers years ago.
(4) Why does Dumbledore make sure that Harry carries his invisibility cloak
at all times and why does he insist on Harry wearing it when they fly back
to the Hogwarts' tower? Is it so that Harry can witness this final
prearranged "death"?
(5) Why does Dumbledore stun Harry when they reach the tower unless he
knows what the danger is and is determined that Harry should see what
happens but be unable to stop it happening? Why would he leave Harry
defenceless in such a supposedly unknown situation when he himself is
supposed to be very ill/dying?
(6) Before they set off for the cave, Dumbledore insists that Harry obeys
his every command even if Harry knows that Dumbledore's life is in danger.
Why make such a demand unless he has to be sure that Harry will not
interfere when they get to the tower?
(7) When Dumbledore and Harry go to the cave, Dumbledore says on a number
of occasions that the magic protecting the cave is fairly simple and
obvious. Would such simple and obvious magic really be able to kill such a
great wizard or even leave him ill and defenceless? Again, if that were the
case, Dumbledore would have been dead years ago.
(8 ) When Malfoy hits Dumbledore and he loses his wand over the ramparts, we
never see Dumbledore's wand again and yet earlier in the book Slughorn
sings a song in which it explains that dead wizards have their wands
snapped and buried with them.
(9) When Snape comes up to the tower, Dumbledore is heard to plead with
him. Is Dumbledore pleading for his life, or is he pleading for Snape to
"kill" him as part of a prearranged plan?
(10) All term the students have been learning to say spells in their heads.
Does Snape hit Dumbledore saying one spell out loud, but actually hitting
him with another spell which he has said only in his head?
(11) The Avada Kedavra spell, when mentioned previously, always has its
victims rolling on the ground and yet Dumbledore is thrown out into the
midnight air over the ramparts. Is this another sign that Snape has used a
different spell or perhaps that Dumbledore has repelled the AK with an
enchantment of his own which has sent him flying off the tower?
(12) Dumbledore, throughout all the books, has always been wily and
insightful. It is hard to believe that this genius falls for the Death
Eaters' trap and flies from Hogsmeade straight into the arms of Malfoy and
chums. Surely, Dumbledore is smarter than that?
(13) Is it just a coincidence that Harry gets Snape's old potions text
book? At the start of the book, Harry doesn't think his OWL grades are
sufficient enough for him to be able to continue with potions lessons and
so he doesn't buy the requisite potions' text books. Then, when he gets to
school, he's allowed to do potions and is given an old book to use that
once belonged to Snape/the Half Blood Prince. Snape is supposed to have
left the book he used as a student in the bottom of a cupboard and in all
the years no one else has picked it up and used it? Does Snape use magic to
ensure that Harry gets the book - is he trying to warn Harry in some way
about what Dumbledore is planning and hoping to give Harry to skills he
needs to help Dumbledore/defeat Voldemort?
(14) In previous books, Fawkes, the phoenix, has come to the rescue - his
tears being capable of resorting life. Why wouldn't Fawkes come to
Dumbledore and save him?
(15) When they find Dumbledore's body at the foot of the tower Harry says
he looks like he is sleeping - but for the awkward position of his limbs.
Sleeping or dead? A few broken or missing bones have never hurt anyone at
Hogwarts.
(16) Why are there no efforts to revive Dumbledore? It is only Hagrid who
carries away his body. Madam Pomfrey doesn't even tend to his body.
(17) No other headmaster has been allowed to be buried in Hogwarts and yet
apparently, without explanation, Dumbledore is.
(18 ) We don't see Dumbledore's body again at the funeral - is Hagrid
carrying a sack of spuds whilst Dumbledore is off elsewhere?
What do all these questions suggest?
That Dumbledore is not dead. If he's not, what happened?
(A) To get Voldemort out into the open in book 7, Dumbledore wants
Voldemort to believe that he is dead - we're told that Dumbledore is the
only wizard that Voldemort ever really feared.
(B) He therefore needs to either die or to fake his own death.
(C) Perhaps, part of the prophesy about Voldemort and Harry also has a bit
in it in which Dumbledore "has" to die. Perhaps, in allowing himself to be
really killed, Dumbledore is fulfilling the prophesy and freeing Harry to
take on Voldemort alone and to defeat him.
(D) Perhaps he needs to lure Voldemort in book 7 to try and attack Harry
and to do this he fakes his own death so that Voldemort thinks that Harry
is easy to attack.
(E) So throughout book 6, Dumbledore is setting up his own death: he plots
out a plan with Snape, makes sure Harry is there at the end to see his
death from the anonymity of his cape and powerless to intervene.
(1) He allows Snape to become Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher,
although he has told us in the book that the position has been cursed since
he refused to let Voldemort have the job years ago and that no teacher has
ever lasted more than a year. He supposedly trusts and likes Snape, so why
give him a job that he knows is destined to be doomed, unless he knows that
Snape is going to be out within the year anyway?
(2) He knows that Malfoy is up to something all year and yet doesn't take
action to stop him.
(3) In the US version of the book it reportedly has these extra lines when
Dumbledore is talking to Malfoy on the tower: "He cannot kill you if you
are already dead. ..... Nobody would be surprised that you had died in your
attempt to kill me -- forgive me, but Lord Voldemort probably expects it.
Nor would the Death Eaters be surprised that we had captured and killed
your mother -- it is what they would do themselves, after all." (c) JK Rowling
Dumbledore is talking about faking Malfoy's death to protect him from
Voldemort. If he can fake Malfoy's death (or even think about faking it),
then he can certainly fake his own.
(4) He takes Harry to the cave and drinks a potion that makes him look like
he is close to death.
(5) He returns to the tower and freezes Harry but only after he has made
sure that Harry is covered by the invisibility cloak.
(6) He lets Malfoy throw a spell on him (or gives the impression that
Malfoy's attack has been successful) and he throws his wand over the
ramparts so that he can get it later on.
(7) He waits for Snape to appear and then pleads with Snape for him to
carry out there plan. Perhaps Snape really thinks that he is killing
Dumbledore and is horrified by the thought of what he is being asked to do.
(8 ) Snape says the AK curse out loud, but actually mutters another curse in
his head. This expels Dumbledore over the ramparts where he recovers his wand.
(9) The Dumbledore at the bottom of the tower is either:
(i.) The real Dumbledore really dead - end of.
(ii.) A fake (polyjuice or whatever) Dumbledore - one of the creatures
taken from the cave and made to look like Dumbledore?
(iii.) The real Dumbledore faking death through enchantment.
(iv.) The real Dumbledore really dead but about to be resurrected again
through some phoenix like abilities.
(10) Harry is suddenly released from his frozen position (released by
Dumbledore so he can now protect himself if need be) and starts to chase
Snape. Snape easily casts aside Harry's spells - surely Dumbledore would
have had the power back on top of the tower to repel Malfoy's simple spell
and to freeze Harry at the same time.
(11) Snape could easily kill Harry but doesn't. He says that Harry is to be
left for Voldemort. But why, with Harry in his grip and supposedly eager to
please Voldemort, doesn't Snape just cast a spell over Harry and take him
direct to Voldemort. The reason is surely that he doesn't want Voldemort to
get Harry - the plan is to keep Harry free so that he can get Voldemort in
book 7. Also, when Snape is called from his office during the attack by the
Death Eaters (can he really not have heard the noise of battle and why
wasn't he patrolling the school like the rest of the Order of the Phoenix?
Was he deliberately kept out of the way so he could not get into the fight
too early on and risk being attacked/injured and therefore unable to help
Dumbledore with the plan?) why did he stun Flitwick? If he's a Death Eater,
he would have killed him. The stun was surely to protect Flitwick from
further attack.
(F) So is Dumbledore dead? Well, he might be, but he could have faked his
death or, more likely, he could be really dead but about to be resurrected
in book 7 through his phoenix like powers. We know he has Fawkes as an ally
and we know from a previous book that Fawkes looks wretched before he is
reborn and that he has to go out in a ball of flames in order to be reborn.
When we meet Dumbledore in book 6, he - like Fawkes in the previous books -
looks older and frailer than before. His hand is burnt and seemingly dead.
Is this a prelude to his own death and he uses his natural period of life
and death as a time to allow Voldemort (and us) to think he is dead?
Knowing he is going to "die" at some point soon, he arranges for Snape to
"kill" him - and Snape really does feel terrible about it, although in
truth he is rather more a phoenix-midwife than a murderer. Snape may or may
not have known about Dumbledore's phoenix like powers: he might be going
through with Dumbledore's plan in blind faith and friendship (as Harry
himself does).
(G) It is important for Dumbledore to make his death as convincing as
possible so as to lure Voldemort. No one can let the secret out, or the
plan will be ruined and the wizarding world will fall to Voldemort forever.
So perhaps no one actually knows about the plan at all - not even Snape.
Snape "kills" Dumbledore to help him with his plan, although he himself
doesn't know whether Dumbledore is really dead or not.
(H) It is particularly important that Harry does not know about the plan as
we have read that he is not good at keeping people from reading his mind.
He has to believe one million percent that Dumbledore is dead.
(I) So if Snape has "killed" Dumbledore, he has managed to keep the
unbreakable oath, thereby gaining Voldemort's confidence and yet keeping in
with Dumbledore's plan. Snape is the ultimate double agent and Voldemort is
going to come unstuck in book 7.
(J) At Dumbledore's funeral, his body is surrounded by flames and then
becomes entombed. More phoenix clues from JK?
(K) There is also the quote from Dumbledore about him having only truly
left Hogwarts if no one there is loyal to him. At the end of the book,
Harry tells the minister for magic that he is still Dumbledore's man
through and through.
In the end, only JK knows what will happen. She can change the story for
book 7 as much as she wants. The future is hers to decide on. I just hope
that someone wraps her up in cotton wool until she finishes the 7th book.
The world will be a sadder and more confused place if she doesn't get to
finish the series. Perish the thought. Life without JK, HP, Dumbledore and
Hogwarts?
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:36 pm
I dunno. there must be something else behind this all. this just don't make any sense to me.
Severus Snape can't be that bad.. I refuse believeing he is bad.
plus how could it be that the most feared wizard was afraid to kill, was unabale to kill Dumbledore and now comes snape, who ain't that powerful just kills dumbledore..
just doesn't make any sense to me. and snape isn't bad. the excplanation he gave to the women, it was just a huge crap
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:37 pm
I like Snape's humor. He may have killed Dumbledor, but he's still one of my favorite characters. Arisa_Uotani_Furuba, I think Dumbledor's dead. I mean, if he wasn't, he is now because they burried him, didn't they? Or at least put his body in a sealed coffin?
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:37 pm
I still don't know if he's evil or not. I'm quite confused by the whole bloody thing infact confused
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:30 am
O.o read book seven the answers it there read it!!!!!
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:52 pm
Why do I think Snape isn't evil?
Well............the last book has since then been released and the question ahs been answered, but here is my answer anyway...............
It's simple.
Because Dumbledore trusts him. I've always, always thought that. (though I have hated Snape at times)
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:35 pm
Snape'sa big b*****d, but he's really not evil. Attracted to the Dark Arts, yes, but not evil. He's the anti-hero of the series.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:36 pm
Snape is the anti-hero, even though he was attracted to the Dark Arts he helped Harry along the way. I have hated him several times but in the last book I felt dreadfully sorry for him, ever since I read it, Snape has been my hero!
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:47 pm
He was like an evil helper/spy who helped him by hurting him????
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:25 pm
Because if you've read the 7th book you'd know he's not. How can you think he is evil after you've read the chapter The Prince's Tale?
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:53 pm
He's neither evil, nor good. He's out for himself. He was helping Dumbeldore not for the sole purpose of bringing down the dark lord, and he never even liked harry. He did everything out of love for lily. That in and of itself may be good, but looking at the whole picture, it's not
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:27 pm
Stronghearted11 He's neither evil, nor good. He's out for himself. He was helping Dumbeldore not for the sole purpose of bringing down the dark lord, and he never even liked harry. He did everything out of love for lily. That in and of itself may be good, but looking at the whole picture, it's not Actually, I got the idea that, after the Drak Lord killed Lily, Severus more or less wanted Voldemort dead. Out of vengence, rather than morals, but still.
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