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 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:40 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:40 am
Lazarus The Resurected oddly enough i actually look the part of the stereotypical satanist. Black trenchcoat, solid black clothing, long black hair. multiple piercings, sunglasses at night, spiked collar, tattoos. looking to buy a pentacle to hang arround my neck. odd, that's what i look like every day, except my hair is brown and i wear a ring around my neck instead of a pentacle. depending on where you live, Spensers has some interesting looking ones, btw.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:39 pm
Ooooooook there. I just read your 9 thingys, and sorry pal. Here's a lil story for ya.
A man sits on a bench in the park, God walks up to him and says "Come with me!" The man simply replies "No". So, next comes satan walks up the man and says "Come with me!" Again, the man Replies "No". Under his breath satan says, "Tho you don't know, I own that bench"
If you don't get the moral of this story, then here it is. Yes, the satan you worship is the satan that we detest. If its not God, then its evil, thats the basic answer. Satan is all about your own desires more than Gods, and he seeps into your life telling you that You can live and do what ever you want. God IS LOVE, Satan is not. Satan leads the world into a spirling death, aka Doom. God doesn't want that, God wants purity, he wants loyality, he wants his family to come home (sons and daughters of God, to which you are one, but you havn't accepted his invitation if you havn't accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and Saviour, and believe what he did for you)
This is not Flame, its truth!
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:45 pm
*puts a sombrero on Mishy's head, a hat on my head and a hat on the floor, and begins doing the Mexican hat dance!* ^-^ YEAH!!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:13 am
Why'd you put the last part of the second paragraph in () anyways? Though to be honest that's what his belief is about. Ferom what I gather he dosn't rally worship satan, but follows the belief that he shouldn't be bound by any religion and faiths.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:00 pm
Mishy-Fishy Ooooooook there. I just read your 9 thingys, and sorry pal. Here's a lil story for ya. A man sits on a bench in the park, God walks up to him and says "Come with me!" The man simply replies "No". So, next comes satan walks up the man and says "Come with me!" Again, the man Replies "No". Under his breath satan says, "Tho you don't know, I own that bench" If you don't get the moral of this story, then here it is. Yes, the satan you worship is the satan that we detest. If its not God, then its evil, thats the basic answer. Satan is all about your own desires more than Gods, and he seeps into your life telling you that You can live and do what ever you want. God IS LOVE, Satan is not. Satan leads the world into a spirling death, aka Doom. God doesn't want that, God wants purity, he wants loyality, he wants his family to come home (sons and daughters of God, to which you are one, but you havn't accepted his invitation if you havn't accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and Saviour, and believe what he did for you) This is not Flame, its truth! if you would of read his entire post, the Satanists do not worship the Christian devil. giving your opinion and forcing it on someone are two different things, please have more patience in posting in the future.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:15 am
xWillowxMCRmyx Mishy-Fishy Ooooooook there. I just read your 9 thingys, and sorry pal. Here's a lil story for ya. A man sits on a bench in the park, God walks up to him and says "Come with me!" The man simply replies "No". So, next comes satan walks up the man and says "Come with me!" Again, the man Replies "No". Under his breath satan says, "Tho you don't know, I own that bench" If you don't get the moral of this story, then here it is. Yes, the satan you worship is the satan that we detest. If its not God, then its evil, thats the basic answer. Satan is all about your own desires more than Gods, and he seeps into your life telling you that You can live and do what ever you want. God IS LOVE, Satan is not. Satan leads the world into a spirling death, aka Doom. God doesn't want that, God wants purity, he wants loyality, he wants his family to come home (sons and daughters of God, to which you are one, but you havn't accepted his invitation if you havn't accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and Saviour, and believe what he did for you) This is not Flame, its truth! if you would of read his entire post, the Satanists do not worship the Christian devil. giving your opinion and forcing it on someone are two different things, please have more patience in posting in the future. WOOT! Go WILLOW!!!! *Glomps her*
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:34 pm
Force of Opinion and Truth are two different things hun. If you compare what he worships and does to the what you called "Christian Devil" (I wouldn't refer to him that way buuuut ok) they're the exact same thing. In Christianity, if you don't worship God, then what are you worshiping? For some people, its money *and btw, worship isn't always bowing down to it lol, its over obsessive of something, or its on your mind constantl.* For others, its their personal desires. This is the middle ground 'bench' I was talkin about, they don't techically go either way, but if your not with God, then your with the rest of the world, and it just so happens that Satan seems to be on that part. >What do Light and Darkness have in Common? Nothing correct? So if you are not in the light, you are in the dark, if your not in the dark, your in the light. Same with God, if your with God, your not with Satan, if your with Satan, your not with God< Proving, that its the same guy we're all talkin about.
Like I said, its not meant to bash, its just truth, whether you want to believe it, is entirly up to you.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:55 pm
Quote: Force of Opinion and Truth are two different things hun. I hate it when people use the words hun, son, child, sweetheart, and such when talking to someone over these kinds of issues. It's like they are trying to make themselves out to be much more mature than others. Talk to her on an even field, and use terms with alittle more respect behind them if you want to be shown respect in return. Unless of course you both are together then I take back everything I said and apologize. Quote: Force of Opinion and Truth are two different things Willow. If it was a truth that gravity exist or that pollution is bad, then I would be liable to agree with you. But beleifs such as Christianity, Hinduism, Satanism, and Deistism are all opinions, not truths. Well except to those who follow them. Quote: If you compare what he worships and does to the what you called "Christian Devil" (I wouldn't refer to him that way buuuut ok) they're the exact same thing. The point of his faith is to not be condemed or strickened by religious beleifs, the point of your 'christain devil' is to drive people away from the christian beleif and drag them down to hell with him. Further more he does not worship anything as he, I, and Willow have already stated. Quote: In Christianity, if you don't worship God, then what are you worshiping? He's not a Christian. Quote: For some people, its money *and btw, worship isn't always bowing down to it lol, its over obsessive of something, or its on your mind constantl.* So people who are struggling to survive must be worshipping money since they are worrying about it all the time right? Quote: For others, its their personal desires. Everyone has personal desires. So everyone has somthing they must worship right? Quote: This is the middle ground 'bench' I was talkin about, they don't techically go either way, but if your not with God, then your with the rest of the world, and it just so happens that Satan seems to be on that part. I really don't want to bash the christian beleif because I try to respect all beleifs, and I understand that this is what the bible dictates. Quote: >What do Light and Darkness have in Common? They are both measurements of brightness. Well for the common man anyways. I always wonder why Light and Dark were always used to describe good and evil. Maybe because most fear the dark. Quote: So if you are not in the light, you are in the dark, if your not in the dark, your in the light. Oh I see, you are one of those people that see things as 100 percent good or evil with nothing in between eh? Well it must be easy to see things so simply, even if it's false. Quote: Same with God, if your with God, your not with Satan, if your with Satan, your not with God< Proving, that its the same guy we're all talkin about. I see, so when we aren't with god then we are evil huh? Well damn never knew I was evil by simply not beleiving in your faith. Wow maybe I should go drown some babies. Quote: Like I said, its not meant to bash, its just truth, whether you want to believe it, is entirly up to you. I don't think you are bashing or flaming. You are simpply statin what you think is right. Nothing wrong with that.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:14 pm
Everyone has evil in them, no one is perfect, i'm certinly not claiming to be on any level. The strive to be a better person is always in the back of the mind (for most people). Btw, with the hun comment, its a force of habbit, and its not meant to degrade anyone in any way, its just how I refer to people, espically when I don't know their names. I don't have the best of memory. bout the light and darkness. Yes, its true, there is no gray. (I have a strong sence of justice, so if this comes through here, I appoligize ahead of time, its built into my morality) Good vs bad, how can there be a middle ground? You can give 10000000's of examples like Robin Hood (yes he was a real man) he stole from teh rich and gave to the poor. seems good, but he was stealing, what he could have done, because he had a good name, was overthrown the government, and do it more politically and legistically, rather than give himself the title of a thief. he was a good guy, with good morals, but he went the wrong way about doing what he did. (and yes, darkness was associated with evil because of the fear of the unknown). I find it facinating that you tried to quote me on absolutely everything I said and break it down. I'm not trying to degrade ya. So don't make it sound like I'm out there to be some big shot with absolutly no regard for anyone else.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:45 pm
Quote: Everyone has evil in them, no one is perfect, i'm certinly not claiming to be on any level. The strive to be a better person is always in the back of the mind (for most people). Ah, well thats very commendable of you. Quote: Btw, with the hun comment, its a force of habbit, and its not meant to degrade anyone in any way, its just how I refer to people, espically when I don't know their names. I don't have the best of memory. Well thats nice to know, even though you could just scroll down to get it. Quote: bout the light and darkness. Yes, its true, there is no gray. To you atleast. I'll agree there is absolute evil when people rape and murder in cold blood. But there are shades of gray. Quote: (I have a strong sence of justice, so if this comes through here, I appoligize ahead of time, its built into my morality) No problem, I don't hold it against you, I'll just excercise my right to disagree. Quote: Good vs bad, how can there be a middle ground? You can give 10000000's of examples like Robin Hood (yes he was a real man) he stole from teh rich and gave to the poor. GOOO ROBIN HOOD. That man was the s**t XD. Quote: seems good, but he was stealing, what he could have done, because he had a good name, was overthrown the government, and do it more politically and legistically, rather than give himself the title of a thief. Apparently you don't know this, but politics isn't much better, or hell it might be the worse method of getting things done right. Quote: he was a good guy, with good morals, but he went the wrong way about doing what he did. So he was a good man with good intentions, but in the end was evil? Wow that makes sense. Well not really. Quote: I find it facinating that you tried to quote me on absolutely everything I said and break it down. Don't worry I do it in every debate/disagreement I am in. It's nothing against you. Quote: I'm not trying to degrade ya. So don't make it sound like I'm out there to be some big shot with absolutly no regard for anyone else. Other than the hun comment, you don't make yourself out to be a big shot. But to be honest I can see you do have regard for others, but with in your own ideals of right and wrong.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:02 pm
Mishy-Fishy Force of Opinion and Truth are two different things hun. If you compare what he worships and does to the what you called "Christian Devil" (I wouldn't refer to him that way buuuut ok) they're the exact same thing. In Christianity, if you don't worship God, then what are you worshiping? For some people, its money *and btw, worship isn't always bowing down to it lol, its over obsessive of something, or its on your mind constantl.* For others, its their personal desires. This is the middle ground 'bench' I was talkin about, they don't techically go either way, but if your not with God, then your with the rest of the world, and it just so happens that Satan seems to be on that part. >What do Light and Darkness have in Common? Nothing correct? So if you are not in the light, you are in the dark, if your not in the dark, your in the light. Same with God, if your with God, your not with Satan, if your with Satan, your not with God< Proving, that its the same guy we're all talkin about. Like I said, its not meant to bash, its just truth, whether you want to believe it, is entirly up to you. I would appreciate you not calling me "hun", as only my boyfriend really gets that privledge and even he does it just to urke me sometimes because he knows I don't prefer it over my actual name. And he probably would be a little ticked to know someone was calling me hun and it wasn't him >.>; It is a matter of perspective on the "Christian God", I was showing respect for him and keeping an open mind on subjects I don't have very much knowledge on compared to someone who can give a first-hand account on Satanism. I may not agree with his beliefs but I am open minded to know more about subjects I don't understand. And I did understand what you were saying, i'm perfectly old enough to do so >_> I was asking you to please keep an open mind instead of forcing your views on someone else who doesn't agree with your view. Everyone is different, and we have different morals, values, and beliefs. You have a better chance of being respected for your beliefs if you are willing to hold an open mind about others. Your truth and someone else's truth may be two different things. We are shaped by our life events, culture, environment, and many other things. I did not grow up how you did, you didn't grow up how I did. My parents taught me one way, yours taught you another. You can not say "my way is right!" when you don't try to understand the other side of the fence. I again restate; please have more patience posting in the future. I understand you may of not tried to come off a certain way, but this is the internet, and therefor a void of emotion, people can misunderstand how you come off. Like right now, i know i'm coming off a lot more harsh than I mean to, but i haven't slept in two days so i'm kind of on autopilot, so my apologies for it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:37 pm
... Hm... techically, wasn't the king taking WAY too much from the townspeople just to teach them a lesson? In the Old Testament, it was an eye for an eye. The king took too much, and if someone hadn't stepped in, he wouldn't have had many subjects to 'bow down' to him. So, it's either, tick the poor people off until some of them go into diabetic rages (which is an explanation to vampires) and kill every other person, or someone had to step in. xd ... And I'm also wondering... why is everyone here then... don't seem to be getting much out of this place but arguements. T.T Why can't we all just feel the love?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:28 pm
Comatose_Factor ... Hm... techically, wasn't the king taking WAY too much from the townspeople just to teach them a lesson? In the Old Testament, it was an eye for an eye. The king took too much, and if someone hadn't stepped in, he wouldn't have had many subjects to 'bow down' to him. So, it's either, tick the poor people off until some of them go into diabetic rages (which is an explanation to vampires) and kill every other person, or someone had to step in. xd ... And I'm also wondering... why is everyone here then... don't seem to be getting much out of this place but arguements. T.T Why can't we all just feel the love? *Raises his hand* My fault, I'm not a christians and like to argue <<>>.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:43 am
Mishy-Fishy Ooooooook there. I just read your 9 thingys, and sorry pal. Here's a lil story for ya. A man sits on a bench in the park, God walks up to him and says "Come with me!" The man simply replies "No". So, next comes satan walks up the man and says "Come with me!" Again, the man Replies "No". Under his breath satan says, "Tho you don't know, I own that bench" If you don't get the moral of this story, then here it is. Yes, the satan you worship is the satan that we detest. If its not God, then its evil, thats the basic answer. Satan is all about your own desires more than Gods, and he seeps into your life telling you that You can live and do what ever you want. God IS LOVE, Satan is not. Satan leads the world into a spirling death, aka Doom. God doesn't want that, God wants purity, he wants loyality, he wants his family to come home (sons and daughters of God, to which you are one, but you havn't accepted his invitation if you havn't accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and Saviour, and believe what he did for you) This is not Flame, its truth! Cute Parable. but seing as how i neither beleive in the existance of your God or his evil counterpart "Satan" I must toss this on the triviality pile. I'll get to my other beef with you in the rest of this post i promise. Mishy-Fishy Force of Opinion and Truth are two different things hun. If you compare what he worships and does to the what you called "Christian Devil" (I wouldn't refer to him that way buuuut ok) they're the exact same thing. In Christianity, if you don't worship God, then what are you worshiping? For some people, its money *and btw, worship isn't always bowing down to it lol, its over obsessive of something, or its on your mind constantl.* For others, its their personal desires. This is the middle ground 'bench' I was talkin about, they don't techically go either way, but if your not with God, then your with the rest of the world, and it just so happens that Satan seems to be on that part. >What do Light and Darkness have in Common? Nothing correct? So if you are not in the light, you are in the dark, if your not in the dark, your in the light. Same with God, if your with God, your not with Satan, if your with Satan, your not with God< Proving, that its the same guy we're all talkin about. Like I said, its not meant to bash, its just truth, whether you want to believe it, is entirly up to you. You do realize that truth is infact entirely based on oppinion right? example: the truth to me is that no god existis that there is nothing after death and that all natural impulses are alright to follow. truth to you is that jesus died for you that his father is God and that his teachings are correct. we will have to learn to get arround this if conversations can continue. the Christian motto of the 20th century. "our way or the highway" what the hell happened to "love thy neighbour."? Mishy-Fishy Everyone has evil in them, no one is perfect, i'm certinly not claiming to be on any level. The strive to be a better person is always in the back of the mind (for most people). Btw, with the hun comment, its a force of habbit, and its not meant to degrade anyone in any way, its just how I refer to people, espically when I don't know their names. I don't have the best of memory. bout the light and darkness. Yes, its true, there is no gray. (I have a strong sence of justice, so if this comes through here, I appoligize ahead of time, its built into my morality) Good vs bad, how can there be a middle ground? You can give 10000000's of examples like Robin Hood (yes he was a real man) he stole from teh rich and gave to the poor. seems good, but he was stealing, what he could have done, because he had a good name, was overthrown the government, and do it more politically and legistically, rather than give himself the title of a thief. he was a good guy, with good morals, but he went the wrong way about doing what he did. (and yes, darkness was associated with evil because of the fear of the unknown). I find it facinating that you tried to quote me on absolutely everything I said and break it down. I'm not trying to degrade ya. So don't make it sound like I'm out there to be some big shot with absolutly no regard for anyone else. i didn't make it through all of this post but i got far enoughto spark a question. if there is no gray. and i agree there isn't and you have a strong sence of justice, should the christians be held responsible for the attrocities the religion has commited agains humanity in the last 2000 years?
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