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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:06 pm
I have gotten lost in my own thread! xd
Now, if we consider Steampunk a lifestyle or even a 'second life' what do people think about questionable ruffians coming into the scene only to wear the clothes? Let us say these peoples are ill-bred and raised, badly educated (with no desire to further their knowledge), loud, screechy, and generally a public horror. Do we embrace them with the notion that the more, the merrier? Or do we quietly ignore them, hoping something else will grab their attention? Perhaps attempt to educated them for the better (with ample use of the rod, I hope)?
I understand the idea that those who are already SP are so because they are in love with a facet of the culture (be it mechanical, literature, steam driven, history, Victoriana, etc), so complete idiots might be a rare occurance. However, SP is starting to spread it's wings across the land and reach more people. More people are learning about it. More people mean more rubbish. As a culture or belief system grows larger, there are more people to taint it.
So, my question is not IF these people will enter the SP realm, but what are member's reactions to them when they appear?
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:55 pm
Heh... We get people like that in the SCA. I've heard horror stories of people running around, talking to the press and saying things like "yeah, we're pretty much all Pagans in the SCA." Usually someone takes them aside and politely explains why telling the rest of the world things like that is detrimental to us all and just plain untrue.
My personal attitude is to tolerate those types as long as they don't get in the way of my enjoyment or that of others. In general, they will either figure out what the group is all about in time or they lose interest and go elsewhere. There's already one guy in my new Airship Crew who I think will go that direction within a year. At this point, he's just not quite on the same page as the rest of us in the group. He might get it and he might not. We'll see.
Berz.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:54 pm
I'd have to agree with Ms. Prime on this. Toleration is the only option we have, and the only option I personally believe to be the right one. Nothing is perfect, and there will always be those people that annoy us and give a bad name to the things we like. Trying to shun them from such things is childish and often ends up with even worse results than letting them run rampant and annoy people. Not only that, but people have a right to take part in the things that interest them, even if they don't completely understand what it is they're a part of, or care for that matter.
When people as a group start shunning others based on the fact that they don't follow things the same way the rest of us do is when I give up and leave. It's just not right by my moral standards, and it's the main reason why I don't follow organized religion(forgive me if you are religious, I mean you no offense). Simply because one does not adhere to what you believe is right, does not make them wrong. Steampunk to me has no real solid rules that make it so other than the fact that it is about the science of steam power and the connection to the Victorian era.
It would be like a country banishing you because you have a big mouth and get on some peoples nerves. Is that really fair to you? I think not.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:57 am
Man, I feel so out of place. sweatdrop
I'm not quite as immersed in the steampunk culture as the rest of the guild. I'm "steampunk" as in I love alternative-type sci-fi novels, Victorian-ish being my favorite. I like to color bronze and I would wear a pair of aviation goggles if I could find a pair (I currently am hunting for some using the internet). My speech is a little different, but not overly so. I don't dress in the style, mostly because I don't have access to much steampunk gear and partially because most vests, corsets and skirts are kind of inconvenient to be wearing on an everyday basis.
But space pirates, pretty Victorian things and stuff with keys and with gears on them make me happy, and I use the word spiffy. Does that count?
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:32 pm
For me it's just an interesting subculture. I'm glad it exists as it bodes well for the future, but overall my interest related to Steampunk themes and hypotheses in connection to the actual future.
Yes, it's silly to hypothesise future on the basis of fiction, but at the same time certain elements are falling together than make the Stempunk subculture of some interest - and perhaps importance - to those planning for the next era of mankind.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:42 pm
Invictus_88 Yes, it's silly to hypothesise future on the basis of fiction, but at the same time certain elements are falling together than make the Stempunk subculture of some interest - and perhaps importance - to those planning for the next era of mankind. I wouldn't say it's silly - indeed, science fiction has sometimes produced concepts for things years before they actually happened; for instance, Arthur C. Clarke first produced the concept for satellites in geostationary orbit (and would have made millions had he patented the idea). It seems to me that many people produce wonderful ideas for the future, but they're so silly (at the time) they are forced to consign them to fiction.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:30 am
I am me. I don't not like to be overly influenced by any one subculture or idea... but I like steampunk, because it reminds me of me. I'm drawn to the Victorian Age because I tend to be a bit Victorian naturally; the ettiquette, modesty, honor, ect. that makes up much of Victorian behavior is just how I am.
As for steampunk, it's fun for me because it feels natural. The literature, the mindset, the fashions are all to my liking. But I don't take it overboard. I am not a steampunk girl; I am Violet. I rearrange the lifestyle to suit me, not the other way around.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:47 am

for me...erm.....I'm interested in it, i love the fashion, I love the attitude....and the time period, but I'm not so into it that I would actually follow the social standards and general lifestyle, I'm far to in the NOW to do that.
I do think, that like any culture...it will have those who are more loose with it, maybe they just LIKE it. like religions, some people practice...others just go to church or whatever but don't care much.
I think toleration is a good idea, I mean...It's good that steampunk is broadening people's views of things, I personally like it for the gears and such.
however.....I think people who will get angry and like...wish to smite people who arent exactly like them follow the guidelines of what I like to call sheer ignorance :3

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