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Groovy Spleen

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:56 pm


Horses don't have calf muscles.
Also, there is a good slope in the pastern, which mimics the slope of the hoof wall, or rather the coffin bone, which is the bone within the hoof.


The back is in 3 different parts, the back (obvious) the loins, and the sloping croup. The tail should begin low on the croup of the horse, you ahve it coming directly out of the horse's loin in this pic.

Also, the cloven feet really bother me.
Cows, Goats, etc...cloven feet. Horse, mule, donkey,..not so much. The shape of a horses foot is somewhat like a shallow bowl, with a shock absorber at the back, whereas a cloven footed animal has two distint toes, and no hard hoof wall. Basically a horse with feet like this would be crippled.

The back leg is entirely different form the front, with the horses 'hock' joint (alike our elbow) is generally in line from the point of buttock to the point of hock. They as well have a large, rounded hip that takes up a good bit of their hind end. The hip should be large, round and muscular, as it is basically the powerhouse of a horse.

The shoulder should have a roughly 90 degree slope, and between the shoulder blades is a large bony protrusion called a wither.

This wire-frame is very good for showing the different angles and slopes (it is actually a pottery frame)

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Keep in mind, this is a reference for angle, not skeletal structure. The underlying skeletal structure is a tad more complex.
ta da

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When drawing horses, It is a good general idea to start with a square, then add the angles of the bulk bodymass and legs inside the square, then add the neck and head outside your box...although this horse obviously has no neck and head . A horse is a very angular creature, and quite easy to break down into geometric shapes.

Think of drawing the horse more in terms of how you would draw a man, less soft curves, more muscular angles...whether the horse is male or female is irrelevant, a female horse generally lacks the thick muscular neck that stallions have, but generally the build of the body is pretty similar.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:24 pm


I'm not going to crit your anatomy but I will say that doodling out the muscle/ bone segments in a rough outline makes things a lot easier when you're shading because then instead of trying to vizualize the whole body at once (which is hard since when you get up close to do details, you can't actually see the whole body) you know where things like the ribs or the breasts start and stop
I actually like the way you did the horse legs, it's not very true to horse muscle anatomy but it's like a blend of horse/human legs which I totally dig
Her hair bothers me though, you have super bright highlights hitting it pretty much all over the piece which shouldn't happen with a light source; when the hair is being blocked by the torso, an arm etc it won't catch that brightness and you should change the tone/darkness accordingly

otimohoT


M56667

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:54 pm


The Iconoclast
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Lazy re-imagining.

You don't seem to understand that studying anatomy doesn't mean drawing realism. You may notice upon looking around that 99% of us would recommend getting a good look at the human (or equine, in this case) body in order to improve at drawing, but shockingly, 99% of us do not draw realism.

Gasp.

Coming to understand the look of the human body just means having a half-assed idea of what the ******** it is you're trying to draw.

A simple Google search of "horse musculature" gave me this gem - seriously, it took less than 30 seconds.

If you want to get positive audience response on your work, be willing to put some effort into learning. Drawing isn't all asspats and it sure as hell isn't easy, as I'm sure you are aware.



OMFG I AM SOOO KEEPING THIS XD

an icono rosepet colab and its of me T_____________T <3333


lets make it a threesome, can i color it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:01 pm


also i love the original as well
(beautiful concept that totally appeals to my interests and you drew me super pretty)

M___M

if i had to crit and its hard cause im bias
( i bought this art and i <3 it )

its that could do without the background its just...
too bland in comparison to "me" <--- figure in the drawing

and thats why i took it out when putting it in my sig
i thought no background would do a better job of showcasing your details

i was right
mrgreen

M56667


petapo

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:47 pm


Thank you all very much. 4laugh
I almost feel like doing another horse woman now just for the fun of it.
I really really need to work on backrounds, too mirene.
It was boring and lame. :/
I just,
I can't draw s**t on PS, I have to do it on paper.
So I need to sit doen and just draw a whole peice, backround and all.
Of course there is also the nuisance of only having to work with a notebook sized peice of paper b/c that's all my scanner will take.

And that.

That REALLY sucks.


Also: Toho thank you. As completely off as it could possibly be to an actual horses anatomy, I sort of liked it, too. sad
Horses are not beautiful, delicate creatures that I'm fond of.
They are naturally built akward and unatrractive and beasty to me.
But that doesnt mean I dont want to get it "right" this time around.

TOO THE DRAWING BOARD!

(and this time I will reveal my sketch before I color it ok ok ok?)
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