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Celestial Rapture

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:01 pm


Nasuko-San
ApertureScientist
I like Joan of Arc. I find it shocking that a seventeen year old peasant FEMALE in the middle ages could rise up and lead France to win the 100 Year War. Talk about girl power. mrgreen

She didn't necessarily win it. It wasn't like this:
"i am heer so now teh frinch win!!!!1"
"kthxbai!"

She did rally France into one hell of a war, though.

Oops. No more false-posting during math homework.
I really meant to say she led several important victories that gave her country, as you said, a reason to be 'excited' about victory.
The chatspeak made me laugh and now my brother is looking at me funny.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:12 am


ApertureScientist
Nasuko-San
ApertureScientist
I like Joan of Arc. I find it shocking that a seventeen year old peasant FEMALE in the middle ages could rise up and lead France to win the 100 Year War. Talk about girl power. mrgreen

She didn't necessarily win it. It wasn't like this:
"i am heer so now teh frinch win!!!!1"
"kthxbai!"

She did rally France into one hell of a war, though.

Oops. No more false-posting during math homework.
I really meant to say she led several important victories that gave her country, as you said, a reason to be 'excited' about victory.
The chatspeak made me laugh and now my brother is looking at me funny.

3nodding
She's an inspiration to women in the military today. Anyone who says girls can't fight can take their thumb and shove it up their a-

Area.

Nasuko-San
Crew


Galad Aglaron
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:58 am


Nasuko-San
bighairy dog
hey there was some1 back there who said that hitler was great and he killed more then just 6 people!

I said he was a militaristic genius. He was a psychopath with everything else; Not to mention a failure. xd

A monster and a madman, but brilliant. 3nodding Like Kemmler! And Voldemort. And any other number of notable tyrants (real, imagined or otherwise).
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:27 am


Galad Damodred
Nasuko-San
bighairy dog
hey there was some1 back there who said that hitler was great and he killed more then just 6 people!

I said he was a militaristic genius. He was a psychopath with everything else; Not to mention a failure. xd

A monster and a madman, but brilliant. 3nodding Like Kemmler! And Voldemort. And any other number of notable tyrants (real, imagined or otherwise).

Inventing a new type of warfare means you have to be a genius.

I personally think he would've won World War II if he hadn't invaded Russia and just kept at the British. Their RAF was exhausted when the Germans gave up. They could have won if they kept going another month. Thankfully, they didn't.

Nasuko-San
Crew


Hizuka Akira

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:11 am


My favourite historical figure has been Anne Boleyn for a while. The whole time she was Henry VIII's mistress, people were telling her to settle for what she had, but she didn't give up until she was his wife and his queen. Granted, most people hated her, she failed to bear the king a son, England went through a religious upheaval because of her, and she was executed in disgrace, but what she accomplished was amazing. And she really did change history, being the mother of Elizabeth I and really being the cause of the formation of the Church of England.

Also, I've been reading a couple of manga lately about Cesare Borgia, and am fascinated by him, too. I don't really know enough about him for him to be a favourite figure of mine, but I'm certainly interested in learning more.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:42 am


Hitler's sin was rage. That was his downfall. During the last couple years of the war, MI6 prodded him and kept him pissed... pretty much played him like an Aryan fiddle.

My favorite would have to be Churchill. The man was a genius, and probably certifiably insane. He was involved in at least 4 wars, and only sustained one injury: a skin graft to a fellow officer, taken by a doctor in a medical tent. This from the man who walked along the tops of the trenches in the Great War, not to mention the stories of him taking baths in a big tin tub while the Germans shelled the trenches.

Fresnel

Citizen


LDS Knight

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:41 am


Nasuko-San
Wow. This is tough.

Ulysses S. Grant: Sure he was a drunkard, but his taking of Vicksburg (I think it was Vicksburg. I haven't read up on him for years) won the American Civil War.

I'll list more later. I can't think of one particular favorite.


Actually, the Union would've won without Ghettysburg.

Sherman destroyed the morale of the Confederates while Grant held Lee down.




Alexander the Great

Conquered size of territory the size of the eastern U.S. on foot.

Beat the Persians time after time, and united his father's old empire.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:22 pm


ApertureScientist
I like Joan of Arc. I find it shocking that a seventeen year old peasant FEMALE in the middle ages could rise up and lead France to win the 100 Year War. Talk about girl power. mrgreen
The French didn't actually win, a truce was drawn up around the unification of the crowns. Then Bollinbrook died. Further war in France was beyond England at that time so the French got bigger from it.

Hizuka Akira

My favourite historical figure has been Anne Boleyn for a while. The whole time she was Henry VIII's mistress, people were telling her to settle for what she had, but she didn't give up until she was his wife and his queen. Granted, most people hated her, she failed to bear the king a son, England went through a religious upheaval because of her, and she was executed in disgrace, but what she accomplished was amazing. And she really did change history, being the mother of Elizabeth I and really being the cause of the formation of the Church of England.

Religious reform was a great thing but Boleyn didn't actually do a lot as is recorded, I consider her useful but trivial.

Nasuko-san

I personally think he would've won World War II if he hadn't invaded Russia and just kept at the British. Their RAF was exhausted when the Germans gave up. They could have won if they kept going another month. Thankfully, they didn't.

If the Germans didn't go to war with Russia AND America then they'ld have beaten Britain, in fact a simple land invasion would have done it by about 1942.

Fresnel

My favorite would have to be Churchill. The man was a genius, and probably certifiably insane. He was involved in at least 4 wars, and only sustained one injury: a skin graft to a fellow officer, taken by a doctor in a medical tent. This from the man who walked along the tops of the trenches in the Great War, not to mention the stories of him taking baths in a big tin tub while the Germans shelled the trenches.

Gallipoli? The general strike of 1926? He was not a nice man nor one of millitary greatness; he was certainly good for morale though.

LDS Knight

Alexander the Great

Conquered size of territory the size of the eastern U.S. on foot.

Beat the Persians time after time, and united his father's old empire.

He was famed for his novel uses of cavalry and himself rode a horse.

CH1Y0


Nasuko-San
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:43 pm


I think five year olds knew that Germany would've won if he took Britain... stare
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:04 pm


Quote:
Nasuko-san

I personally think he would've won World War II if he hadn't invaded Russia and just kept at the British. Their RAF was exhausted when the Germans gave up. They could have won if they kept going another month. Thankfully, they didn't.

If the Germans didn't go to war with Russia AND America then they'ld have beaten Britain, in fact a simple land invasion would have done it by about 1942.
Nuh-uh, 'cause Britain had soldiers on ROLLER-SKATES!

CH1Y0
Fresnel

My favorite would have to be Churchill. The man was a genius, and probably certifiably insane. He was involved in at least 4 wars, and only sustained one injury: a skin graft to a fellow officer, taken by a doctor in a medical tent. This from the man who walked along the tops of the trenches in the Great War, not to mention the stories of him taking baths in a big tin tub while the Germans shelled the trenches.

Gallipoli? The general strike of 1926? He was not a nice man nor one of millitary greatness; he was certainly good for morale though.
I got the impression that Gallipoli was over his head, against his recommendations. The man was witty as s**t, crazier than that, and not a bad soldier in his own right.

Fresnel

Citizen


Devlin-G

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:23 pm


LDS Knight
Nasuko-San
Wow. This is tough.

Ulysses S. Grant: Sure he was a drunkard, but his taking of Vicksburg (I think it was Vicksburg. I haven't read up on him for years) won the American Civil War.

I'll list more later. I can't think of one particular favorite.


Actually, the Union would've won without Ghettysburg.

Sherman destroyed the morale of the Confederates while Grant held Lee down.




Alexander the Great

Conquered size of territory the size of the eastern U.S. on foot.

Beat the Persians time after time, and united his father's old empire.


Ok, Im stating this more on the civil war history and not Alexander the great.
Ok, for one Gettysburg is spelt just as I spelt it, and two it was the beginning of the end for lee's army of northern Virginia and why the war had ended the following years insteadof having longer bloodier wars like Europe. And Sherman's march to the sea if memory serves happened somewhere in 1864.((If Im wrong say so post your proof, and I'll admit it.))


But back onto the question or topic at hand, Oh who to pick, out of the many great militaristic leaders of our world. HMM do I want to go With Robert E Lee. Joshua Chamberlin, for his bold actions on the field and how he lived after the war (Same goes for Lee.)

Who else........ No I'm done.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:57 pm


Hm... By Civil War standards... Stonewall Jackson. The man was probably insane but GOD did he know how to execute battlefield strategies.

And I'm sorry but he started the "rebel yell".

Quote, "And when you charge! YELL LIKE FURIES!"

Won the 1st Battle of Manassas in that one order.

He ranks up there with Patton in American generals. Oddly enough both of the bastards died within the last two years of their wars.

GeneralFishSama


GeneralFishSama

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:49 pm


Marley this one's for you XD
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:16 pm


Civil War? John Sedgwick, hands down.
"What? Men dodging this way for single bullets? What will you do when they open fire along the whole line? I am ashamed of you. They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance."

Fresnel

Citizen


Devlin-G

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:58 pm


Yes, Jackson would rank up there, along with a year or so I think after Gettysburg Joshua Chamberlin, was promoted to brigadier general, may not be much, but he did turn out to be a general, and he is most notable for holding the union left at Gettsyburg, and charging down little round top when his regiment (the 20th Maine) ran out of shot.

But yes Patton was a good general, all be it a hard one (I forgot was he an armored commander?)
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