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 Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:32 pm
Canis Lupus the LoneWolf Kaiba-X tangocat777 Kaiba-X Canis Lupus the LoneWolf Kaiba-X Depends. It the stock drops dramatically that's not good because you tend to sell whatever stock you had in place. If it goes up too high, then deflation starts to happen and the value of dollar just decreases by a lot. If it goes too low, the dollar value increases by a lot. Stock usually tends to go and up most of the time, just be careful. Playing the stock market can lead to some weird a** things. Just make sure your stock drops down by a bit and increases by a bit. Also check the Down Jones about how many points it dropped down and plus the NASDAQ as well. Just make sure, if the Down Jones starts to drop like hell well watch out. Your better of selling it. Ah, mainly what caused the great depression, too much stock, right? One of the reasons my parents are supporting Ron Paul, something about he's the only one concerned about the monetary issue. I heard the Canadian dollar is worth more than ours now. The Great Depression was caused because there was too money but it wasn't money at all. It was all credit, credit is not in fact real money it's just borrowed. Yes the Canadian dollar is worth more than ours. And the Peso is catching up too. The Euro is now about twice more worth than our dollar. You know, I just got a book that said a few things on this matter. It said we could protect our investments with gold. confused Gold is too much now. It would be stupid enough to invest into gold at this moment. I would invest something like small computer companies or gasoline stations at the moment. I really think instead of just investing into gasoline which will just make the price higher than it already is, is just kind of futile...we're running out of that kind of fuel. I really think there needs to be a pushing towards alternative fuels like hydrogen(the best choice of alternative fuel to me...plenty of H2O out there to extract, especially in the ocean. There's also the fact water[not fresh, but it's better than nothing] is the most renewable resource on the planet) in these new hybrids. It'll be expensive and take a while, but it'll be worth it, it won't be as expensive once it's mainstream, and we won't be polluting the planet. Eh, I think we're getting way off topic, we should probably take this to the general discussion or something sweatdrop Yes, Canis. Believe in Hydrogen.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:22 pm
It'd be funny if it did happen ,though. Just to see the peoples faces.. Ha ha... Yeah... yeah...
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:24 pm
LOL. You're still talking about MGS4?
Wait.......
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:17 pm
Crimson The Blade It'd be funny if it did happen ,though. Just to see the peoples faces.. Ha ha... Yeah... yeah...
We all know they wouldn't survive the second cutscene or the lack of constant explosions.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:55 pm
The Death Blues Mix Crimson The Blade It'd be funny if it did happen ,though. Just to see the peoples faces.. Ha ha... Yeah... yeah...
We all know they wouldn't survive the second cutscene or the lack of constant explosions.Wow, you really lay it out. Sometimes I think that the "Xbots" really DO want this game on their console just because they think it's good, and then I remember that, no, they just don't want the Sony fans to have any exclusives. Faux, nebulous superiority in an idea of a war among machines that play games, that's all they care about. Pathetic, when you really boil it all down. But seriously, Konami already tried this. They put MGS3 on the Xbox, and no one bought that version.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:02 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar The Death Blues Mix Crimson The Blade It'd be funny if it did happen ,though. Just to see the peoples faces.. Ha ha... Yeah... yeah...
We all know they wouldn't survive the second cutscene or the lack of constant explosions.Wow, you really lay it out. Sometimes I think that the "Xbots" really DO want this game on their console just because they think it's good, and then I remember that, no, they just don't want the Sony fans to have any exclusives. Faux, nebulous superiority in an idea of a war among machines that play games, that's all they care about. Pathetic, when you really boil it all down. But seriously, Konami already tried this. They put MGS3 on the Xbox, and no one bought that version. MGS2 mate.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:05 pm
Part-Time Viking Arvis_Jaggamar The Death Blues Mix Crimson The Blade It'd be funny if it did happen ,though. Just to see the peoples faces.. Ha ha... Yeah... yeah...
We all know they wouldn't survive the second cutscene or the lack of constant explosions.Wow, you really lay it out. Sometimes I think that the "Xbots" really DO want this game on their console just because they think it's good, and then I remember that, no, they just don't want the Sony fans to have any exclusives. Faux, nebulous superiority in an idea of a war among machines that play games, that's all they care about. Pathetic, when you really boil it all down. But seriously, Konami already tried this. They put MGS3 on the Xbox, and no one bought that version. MGS2 mate. Uh, yeah, that's what I said. MGS2. ninja
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:11 am
I hope all these exclusive games end up not being exclusive just so I can rub it in to your faces since you guys care so much about it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:08 am
HistoryWak I hope all these exclusive games end up not being exclusive just so I can rub it in to your faces since you guys care so much about it.
You know, like they do with Madden.
Here's why exclusives are good. Imagine, if you will, that COD4 had been exclusive to any platform. The developers could have customized the game, tweaked, tuned, molded it around the very core of the machine. There wouldn't have been any sacrifices made to get it to work on multiple platforms. Just the game and one machine. Utilizing the individual advantages of whatever machine it was on.
Unless you like having Wii-ports to/from the PS2 because you don't like exclusives and don't care that the developers will sacrifice time working the control scheme in order to make it multiplatform.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:56 pm
The Death Blues Mix HistoryWak I hope all these exclusive games end up not being exclusive just so I can rub it in to your faces since you guys care so much about it.
You know, like they do with Madden.
Here's why exclusives are good. Imagine, if you will, that COD4 had been exclusive to any platform. The developers could have customized the game, tweaked, tuned, molded it around the very core of the machine. There wouldn't have been any sacrifices made to get it to work on multiple platforms. Just the game and one machine. Utilizing the individual advantages of whatever machine it was on.
Unless you like having Wii-ports to/from the PS2 because you don't like exclusives and don't care that the developers will sacrifice time working the control scheme in order to make it multiplatform.I meant non-first party exclusives. I actually don't care about exclusivity. As long as I get to play a game/series I enjoy I don't care how many other consoles have it. I'm not going to have a fit if Zelda or Mario become non-exclusive. As long as I can still play the game it shouldn't matter. I understand what you're saying with making the game to take full advantage of the console it's on but that's what first-party games are for. Developers should choose the console based on what will be better suited with what they want to achieve with the game. I'm talking these big exclusives that hell would freeze over if it goes to another console. (FFXIII, MGS4, etc...) Do you honestly think that MGS4 will suffer if they make a version for 360? They already have a perfected version in the works for PS3. The PS3 version won't get hurt if they rebuild later for porting. Most of Wii's exclusive games are first-party. I would never expect a Microsoft or Sony first party game to be ported to another console. That's unthinkable. I'm talking about the third-party games. As long as I have a version to play it don't matter if another version looks better or not. That's just me.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:15 am
HistoryWak The Death Blues Mix HistoryWak I hope all these exclusive games end up not being exclusive just so I can rub it in to your faces since you guys care so much about it.
You know, like they do with Madden.
Here's why exclusives are good. Imagine, if you will, that COD4 had been exclusive to any platform. The developers could have customized the game, tweaked, tuned, molded it around the very core of the machine. There wouldn't have been any sacrifices made to get it to work on multiple platforms. Just the game and one machine. Utilizing the individual advantages of whatever machine it was on.
Unless you like having Wii-ports to/from the PS2 because you don't like exclusives and don't care that the developers will sacrifice time working the control scheme in order to make it multiplatform.I meant non-first party exclusives. I actually don't care about exclusivity. As long as I get to play a game/series I enjoy I don't care how many other consoles have it. I'm not going to have a fit if Zelda or Mario become non-exclusive. As long as I can still play the game it shouldn't matter. I understand what you're saying with making the game to take full advantage of the console it's on but that's what first-party games are for. Developers should choose the console based on what will be better suited with what they want to achieve with the game. I'm talking these big exclusives that hell would freeze over if it goes to another console. (FFXIII, MGS4, etc...) Do you honestly think that MGS4 will suffer if they make a version for 360? They already have a perfected version in the works for PS3. The PS3 version won't get hurt if they rebuild later for porting. Most of Wii's exclusive games are first-party. I would never expect a Microsoft or Sony first party game to be ported to another console. That's unthinkable. I'm talking about the third-party games. As long as I have a version to play it don't matter if another version looks better or not. That's just me. I wish I could think like you sometimes. If I am not playing the best possible version of a game, it really bothers me.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:28 am
I hate the whole "OMG IT LOOKZ BETTER ON______"
Since I already have a 360, why would I buy non-PS3 exclusives (in the beginning anyway) for small things like graphics? I bought my PS3 for $400. I want to play it knowing I got $400 worth out of it.
I don't want to buy a PS3 and only play games I could play on the 360.
That's why, I'm buying PS3 exclusives right now. After a while, I'll nit-pick about stupid s**t like graphics.
The only real reason to buy a game for one console over another (if you own two) would be like the reason I bought PS2's RE4 instead of GC's RE4.
Extra characters, side stories, weapons, additional gameplay, etc.
Not because the graphics look a whole 2% better.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:35 am
Ace, it goes beyond that. The design of each platform causes issues with the lead platform to ports. For example, designing on PC then taking it to PS3/360, or any other combination of the three. You can run into bugs, glitches, screen tearing, AI issues, amongst other things that couldn't be optimized for the particular platform strengths because of a need to design it with the ability to run on all three.
I mean look what happened to Orange Box. 360 had Live issues with Orange Box, and the PS3 version was just ******** over. We've already heard about the frame rate issues in Burnout Paradise on 360 compared to the PS3. Multiplatforming can hurt the over all quality of a game beyond just graphics. More often than not the graphics aren't the things to worry about. The performance of the game however can be affected. Unless you enjoy the frame rates dropping below 20 frames per second, or other things.
Also, at Wak, there are things the third parties think up and play around with that first parties just don't do.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:00 pm
I think the video game companies are stating to put money over quality, that's why everything is going multi-platform. Their putting quality aside now because of their greed or console preferences (damn you valve).
I have to admit though, third party games usually end up coming with new game types, while first party devs usually sticks to the formula that works.
The whole starting with one platform and then porting to other consoles just ends with troubles, glitches and complaints.
I hope they find a way to make all game ports equal, but I think it will take some time before they find an answer (especially since the wii is very different from the 360 and PS3)
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:36 pm
Ozaki I think the video game companies are stating to put money over quality, that's why everything is going multi-platform. Their putting quality aside now because of their greed or console preferences (damn you valve). I have to admit though, third party games usually end up coming with new game types, while first party devs usually sticks to the formula that works. The whole starting with one platform and then porting to other consoles just ends with troubles, glitches and complaints. I hope they find a way to make all game ports equal, but I think it will take some time before they find an answer (especially since the wii is very different from the 360 and PS3) I don't believe quality is suffering. For anything they're supposedly getting better. There are plenty of ports that are equal. The "bad" ports seem to overshadowed by them though. There's nothing wrong with "sticking to the formula." If something works and is good there is nothing wrong with it. A game don't game to be away from the formula to be great or any good. If devs put more effort into ports and actually put more care into making the port the best it can be on the console it is being ported to instead of making half-assed ports to make a quick buck there wouldn't be an issue. They should build multiconsole games around each console structure to get the most advantage out of each. If they can get the most advantage out of each console then I shouldn't care which console it is on as long as I can play it. If I can't, oh Well. Luckily my favorite game series just so happens to not be third party so I don't have to worry about spin-offs, sequels, etc going exclusive to a console that I had no intention on getting.
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