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 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:34 pm
Vincente BlueRaven990 Vincente You know, I guess I am the only one that thinks that "The Golden Compass" is a better title than "The Northern Lights"
Have you read the book?
Northern Lights fits in so much more than the boring, fluffy edged golden compass. confused Golden Compass makes me think of an artifact of great importance. Northern Lights... I can't say that makes me think of anything.
Doesn't Northern Lights, make you think about the Northern Lights?
How mysterious, beautiful and amazing they are?
And how you could also slide through into a whole new universe!
The Compass has a very very small part in this book anyway, the Northern lights however are a main location.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:47 pm
My daemon is named Marchestra, and she is a chimpanzee. whee
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:38 pm
BlueRaven990 IlilotIblake
Ah, I love it how Gaia is supporting anti-Christianity movies. neutral
You know right that The Golden Compass is going to target all Christianity religions.
Thus the reason why a few Catholic Groups are boycotting the movie(Along w/ other Christian groups) and the author. The book also spreads atheistic views of the Church/Christianity. So, its mostly the first child book that is spreading atheism around.
Anywho, movie seems good. But I'm only curious on how its anti-Christianity. So, I'll probably see it due to that fact. xP
*sigh*
The book isn't anti-christianity and even if it were it's still the expression of a view.
America (where the film is apparently only showing at the moment damnit gonk ) is a free country, you can say and do whatever you want to a degree and you can express your thoughts and views as long as you're not breaking the law doing so.
Even if this film was packed with Atheist propaganda, as long as they aren't killing people it's fine.
Stupid Stick-sitting stuck-up Catholics! I know plenty of friendly and happy Christians who can get so stuck-up and wound up about stupid things like this and to be honest it's a load of rubbish and I pretty much ignore them now.
If these Catholics are going to boycott the film, good, then I won't have to sit next to them as they complain at some insignificant detail.
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Hey dude.
Don't get angry at the Catholics for defending their faith. talk2hand
I'm Catholic myself, I'm not boycotting it.
And its not the Catholics either that are boycotting, some other Christians are boycotting it as well. rolleyes
Wikipedia The His Dark Materials books have been controversial with some Christian groups. J ournalist Peter Hitchens has claimed that Pullman actively pursues an anti-Christian agenda, having stated, "This is the most dangerous author in Britain."[3] Hitchens views the His Dark Materials series as a direct rebuttal of C. S. Lewis's series.[4] Pullman's opinion on the matter has yet to be confirmed.[5]
Research please. =]
Look up his Dark Materials on Wikipedia, read it.
Yeep. It shows bunch of information about the book. neutral
It also says that he portrays the Christian Heaven to be full of lies.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:51 pm
IlilotIblake
Hey dude.
Don't get angry at the Catholics for defending their faith. talk2hand
I'm Catholic myself, I'm not boycotting it.
And its not the Catholics either that are boycotting, some other Christians are boycotting it as well. rolleyes
Wikipedia The His Dark Materials books have been controversial with some Christian groups. J ournalist Peter Hitchens has claimed that Pullman actively pursues an anti-Christian agenda, having stated, "This is the most dangerous author in Britain."[3] Hitchens views the His Dark Materials series as a direct rebuttal of C. S. Lewis's series.[4] Pullman's opinion on the matter has yet to be confirmed.[5]
Research please. =]
Look up his Dark Materials on Wikipedia, read it.
Yeep. It shows bunch of information about the book. neutral
It also says that he portrays the Christian Heaven to be full of lies.
Yes, but it's fiction. We enjoy fiction, not for the ideas that there may be in it, but for the story in itself. Hell, Pullman could've called his God and his Heaven by a different name and then there would've been no problems, right? It's just because he mentions Christians and then lots of people start complaining about it. Anyway, I can't really talk to you about this, because I'm biased. I recommend you to read the book, if you haven't, and then decide for yourself. His Dark Materials are a LOT more than just "anti-Christian" propaganda.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:03 pm
Nite Lewis IlilotIblake
Hey dude.
Don't get angry at the Catholics for defending their faith. talk2hand
I'm Catholic myself, I'm not boycotting it.
And its not the Catholics either that are boycotting, some other Christians are boycotting it as well. rolleyes
Wikipedia The His Dark Materials books have been controversial with some Christian groups. J ournalist Peter Hitchens has claimed that Pullman actively pursues an anti-Christian agenda, having stated, "This is the most dangerous author in Britain."[3] Hitchens views the His Dark Materials series as a direct rebuttal of C. S. Lewis's series.[4] Pullman's opinion on the matter has yet to be confirmed.[5]
Research please. =]
Look up his Dark Materials on Wikipedia, read it.
Yeep. It shows bunch of information about the book. neutral
It also says that he portrays the Christian Heaven to be full of lies.
Yes, but it's fiction. We enjoy fiction, not for the ideas that there may be in it, but for the story in itself. Hell, Pullman could've called his God and his Heaven by a different name and then there would've been no problems, right? It's just because he mentions Christians and then lots of people start complaining about it. Anyway, I can't really talk to you about this, because I'm biased. I recommend you to read the book, if you haven't, and then decide for yourself. His Dark Materials are a LOT more than just "anti-Christian" propaganda.
I would so read the book, however I don't like fiction books.
Or books that are like story-based. o.o
I like self-help books, lol
or books that are based on a real story.
o.o
And thank you Nite. biggrin This post gave me a Wooden Trunk. =DDD
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:10 pm
IlilotIblake
I would so read the book, however I don't like fiction books.
Or books that are like story-based. o.o
I like self-help books, lol
or books that are based on a real story.
o.o
And thank you Nite. biggrin This post gave me a Wooden Trunk. =DDD
Actually, I got one this afternoon! I should go and look at it.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:05 pm
BlueRaven990 Vincente BlueRaven990 Vincente You know, I guess I am the only one that thinks that "The Golden Compass" is a better title than "The Northern Lights"
Have you read the book?
Northern Lights fits in so much more than the boring, fluffy edged golden compass. confused Golden Compass makes me think of an artifact of great importance. Northern Lights... I can't say that makes me think of anything.
Doesn't Northern Lights, make you think about the Northern Lights?
How mysterious, beautiful and amazing they are?
And how you could also slide through into a whole new universe!
The Compass has a very very small part in this book anyway, the Northern lights however are a main location.Honestly, no, I don't think they are amazing or mysterious. Beautiful certainly, but unfortunately my brain is based too much in the science of the thing to be beguiled into thinking they are anything more than magnetic resonances from low solar winds colliding against our atmosphere. They are most certainly an amazing natural phenomenon, but they ARE a natural phenomenon after all. The compass may play a relatively small part in the story, but from a marketting stand point, it's a better choice than the northern lights.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:08 pm
Nite Lewis Eruravenne *tries not to start a fight* ... ... ... ... ... stressed I am NOT going to be taking part in this event. *tries really hard not to start a fight* *pats Euravenne* sweatdrop No! Don't let others ruin your fun. The book was awesome! The story is excelent! The items will probably be good. I don't know. Maybe at some point I will read it as a way of seeing with my own eyes what it is about. I'm not anti-fantasy. I love Harry Potter, despite the way it is viewed by many Christians. But if the things I've heard about it are true... I just can't support it. I will accept the beliefs of any person as long as they are also willing to accept mine. Is that so much to ask?
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:40 pm
Congrats, those who defend Christianity. So many fools give my faith a bad name... folly. I hate extremists who ruin things... like otaku. heart
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:00 pm
Well, my Daemon is Aleone, the Lynx. I'm solitary, assertive, modest, spontaneous, and shy. Apparently. I also agree that Golden Compass is a better name. XP I'd think "Northern Lights" was some sort of boring everyday chick flick set in new york, or something. 0_o And I do agree with the ability to separate fact from fiction. Though, I guess that isn't congruent with being raised to read a certain book and automatically believe that everything in it is a solid fact. Who knows, you might do the same with another. As far as it being anti-christian, I wouldn't believe everything you read. I haven't read it myself, but it seems a bit flawed just to believe that it's anti-anything without seeing it with your own eyes first. *edit*Snopes dot com has even done an article on this. I am surprised. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.aspWell, as far as I know Snopes is fairly trustworthy. So, is the book anti-Christian? Perhaps. If so, I say: Bravo. I couldn't be prouder that we live in a society that allows such free expression of views. In times past, such a book would have been burned by the government, and it certainly wouldn't have become a best-seller. The way I see it, if your faith is so weak that this book will destroy it, then it wasn't much of anything to begin with. But it's great that those with ideas different from the majority have the chance to speak their mind. If C.S. Lewis, whose books I really enjoyed, can write novels imbued with his ideas of religion and spirituality, then anyone else should be able to, as well. I am intrigued enough to read these books myself, even if they might not be as radical as they seem. http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/47131/
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:28 pm
Eruravenne Nite Lewis Eruravenne *tries not to start a fight* ... ... ... ... ... stressed I am NOT going to be taking part in this event. *tries really hard not to start a fight* *pats Euravenne* sweatdrop No! Don't let others ruin your fun. The book was awesome! The story is excelent! The items will probably be good. I don't know. Maybe at some point I will read it as a way of seeing with my own eyes what it is about. I'm not anti-fantasy. I love Harry Potter, despite the way it is viewed by many Christians. But if the things I've heard about it are true... I just can't support it. I will accept the beliefs of any person as long as they are also willing to accept mine. Is that so much to ask? No, not at all. I understand what you're saying, and I guess that some people will surely feel insulted by some parts of the books (specially the last one), but... *shrugs* I don't know, I just see it as fiction. @TIM: Oh, Pullman certainly has interesting ideas in his books, specially in the last one. Actually, you could find some in a couple of modern RPGs - the only difference is that he didn't make up another religion.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:31 pm
Nite Lewis Eruravenne Nite Lewis Eruravenne *tries not to start a fight* ... ... ... ... ... stressed I am NOT going to be taking part in this event. *tries really hard not to start a fight* *pats Euravenne* sweatdrop No! Don't let others ruin your fun. The book was awesome! The story is excelent! The items will probably be good. I don't know. Maybe at some point I will read it as a way of seeing with my own eyes what it is about. I'm not anti-fantasy. I love Harry Potter, despite the way it is viewed by many Christians. But if the things I've heard about it are true... I just can't support it. I will accept the beliefs of any person as long as they are also willing to accept mine. Is that so much to ask? No, not at all. I understand what you're saying, and I guess that some people will surely feel insulted by some parts of the books (specially the last one), but... *shrugs* I don't know, I just see it as fiction. @TIM: Oh, Pullman certainly has interesting ideas in his books, specially in the last one. Actually, you could find some in a couple of modern RPGs - the only difference is that he didn't make up another religion.
Yeah, FFX was so anti-religion, it wasn't even funny. XD
AND THEN THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WITH X-2!
WHY? WHY DID YOU DO IT? AAARRRRRGHHH!
*dies*
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:38 pm
The Iron Magus Nite Lewis Eruravenne Nite Lewis Eruravenne *tries not to start a fight* ... ... ... ... ... stressed I am NOT going to be taking part in this event. *tries really hard not to start a fight* *pats Euravenne* sweatdrop No! Don't let others ruin your fun. The book was awesome! The story is excelent! The items will probably be good. I don't know. Maybe at some point I will read it as a way of seeing with my own eyes what it is about. I'm not anti-fantasy. I love Harry Potter, despite the way it is viewed by many Christians. But if the things I've heard about it are true... I just can't support it. I will accept the beliefs of any person as long as they are also willing to accept mine. Is that so much to ask? No, not at all. I understand what you're saying, and I guess that some people will surely feel insulted by some parts of the books (specially the last one), but... *shrugs* I don't know, I just see it as fiction. @TIM: Oh, Pullman certainly has interesting ideas in his books, specially in the last one. Actually, you could find some in a couple of modern RPGs - the only difference is that he didn't make up another religion.
Yeah, FFX was so anti-religion, it wasn't even funny. XD
AND THEN THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WITH X-2!
WHY? WHY DID YOU DO IT? AAARRRRRGHHH!
*dies*Me and Quinn are JUST talking about FFX. What a coincident.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:40 pm
The Iron Magus C:>
Yeah, FFX was so anti-religion, it wasn't even funny. XD
AND THEN THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WITH X-2!
WHY? WHY DID YOU DO IT? AAARRRRRGHHH!
*dies* Oh, I just started reading that thing in Spones - I think you should find less extremist sources.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:51 pm
Nite Lewis The Iron Magus C:>
Yeah, FFX was so anti-religion, it wasn't even funny. XD
AND THEN THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WITH X-2!
WHY? WHY DID YOU DO IT? AAARRRRRGHHH!
*dies* Oh, I just started reading that thing in Spones - I think you should find less extremist sources. Haysoo Christo... I agree about Spones. The other article is worth reading though. A lot better.
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