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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:36 pm
kid if you want numbers get tyranids
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:38 pm
or a guard infantry Company just dont take any tanks with Heavy weapons platoons for heavy support and rough riders for fast attack
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:25 pm
There's three primary opinions on buying your first army; one is to buy a simple, tough army so that you can learn the rules and win some early games. Two is to look over the fluff, decide what army you like best, and buy them, regardless of relative difficulty, as you'll be happier playing an army you like, even if you lose alot. Three is to either look at prices, or snap up an old army someone''s selling, in otherwords, prioritize by how much it''ll cost to build your new army.
I'm of the second school of thought; you should buy the army whose fluff and concept you like, and then start learning to use them effectively. Hence why I bought Tau as my first army, and have never regretted it. I''ve not won a single game against Marine Equivalents (MEQs) based purely on victory points or kill count, but I've learned that grabbing the objective with my mobility and blocking thier route to it is more important.
However, if you're of the opinon that you need to start with a simple, tough little army, Some type of MEQ would be your best bet. Space Marines or Necrons are particularly good because They''re flexible and tough, allowing you to make some mistakes in your first games and not get danced on because of it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:08 pm
I'd have to agree with the guy above, I personally think warhammers to expensive just buy an army that is easy to play for begginners and then realizing after several games you just think you'd have more fun with a different army.
Thats of course why i never understood battle for macragge, people buy it, and THEN decide on what army they actually want to start with.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:57 pm
Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first.
I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:59 pm
Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. I advice Eldar; it can ally with Imperium sometimes, but its VERY flexible, and takes some strategy.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:03 pm
DarkElf27 Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. I advice Eldar; it can ally with Imperium sometimes, but its VERY flexible, and takes some strategy. Oh, and I have a question on allying. Can you have a mixed army, and say that they're allies? Or is this just with multiple players on each side that they can group? And another question, that's kinda out of place here, is what happened in the Dark Age of Technology that made the Imperium so fearful of technology? Oh yeah, and thank you. mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:03 pm
Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. depending on what kind of a strategy you want, I really like using grey knights soley on the fact that I've found that since your outnumbered by basically every army you come to fight...it can sometimes really take some strategy to come out on top. Although they are similiar to spacemarines, they have a completely different fighting style and are about as loyal to the empoerer as it gets.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:05 pm
Xenos Mortium DarkElf27 Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. I advice Eldar; it can ally with Imperium sometimes, but its VERY flexible, and takes some strategy. Oh, and I have a question on allying. Can you have a mixed army, and say that they're allies? Or is this just with multiple players on each side that they can group? And another question, that's kinda out of place here, is what happened in the Dark Age of Technology that made the Imperium so fearful of technology? Oh yeah, and thank you. mrgreen Eh, Dark elf, do you know who the eldar can all ally with? Imperial armies can ally with basically all the imperial armies...I know the daemonhunters need and inquisitor, but then can bring just about anything which really helps.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:05 pm
XRedSamuraiX Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. depending on what kind of a strategy you want, I really like using grey knights soley on the fact that I've found that since your outnumbered by basically every army you come to fight...it can sometimes really take some strategy to come out on top. Although they are similiar to spacemarines, they have a completely different fighting style and are about as loyal to the empoerer as it gets. From what I know about the Grey Knights (though it aint that much) is that they're generally a few very powerful guys with some troops as support like Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, right? So really, for the most part, it's taking a few powerful people to overcome many weaker foes. The quality vs quantity issue.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:08 pm
Xenos Mortium XRedSamuraiX Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. depending on what kind of a strategy you want, I really like using grey knights soley on the fact that I've found that since your outnumbered by basically every army you come to fight...it can sometimes really take some strategy to come out on top. Although they are similiar to spacemarines, they have a completely different fighting style and are about as loyal to the empoerer as it gets. From what I know about the Grey Knights (though it aint that much) is that they're generally a few very powerful guys with some troops as support like Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, right? So really, for the most part, it's taking a few powerful people to overcome many weaker foes. The quality vs quantity issue. Basically, the problem with the grey knights though is that they lack heavy weapons...also that it is much more damage being to you to lose a grey knight than to lose say...an ork. (25 gk 9 ork.) so you have to be careful. For the lack of heavy weapons, allied troops are very helpful.
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:03 am
XRedSamuraiX Xenos Mortium XRedSamuraiX Xenos Mortium Seeing as what this topic is about, I'd like some advice on what I should get first. I'd like something that's relatively flexable, and something that requires tactics to play. Complexity isn't going to be an issue for me, and I don't want the Space Marines. And though I'm a good ol' Emporer lover, I'd settle for Eldar or Tau. depending on what kind of a strategy you want, I really like using grey knights soley on the fact that I've found that since your outnumbered by basically every army you come to fight...it can sometimes really take some strategy to come out on top. Although they are similiar to spacemarines, they have a completely different fighting style and are about as loyal to the empoerer as it gets. From what I know about the Grey Knights (though it aint that much) is that they're generally a few very powerful guys with some troops as support like Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, right? So really, for the most part, it's taking a few powerful people to overcome many weaker foes. The quality vs quantity issue. Basically, the problem with the grey knights though is that they lack heavy weapons...also that it is much more damage being to you to lose a grey knight than to lose say...an ork. (25 gk 9 ork.) so you have to be careful. For the lack of heavy weapons, allied troops are very helpful. I don't have any issues with heavy weapons. I use an Imperial Guard army with Daemonhunter allies, so i have a nice balance of heavy weapons and units with good close combat abilities. Since the Daemonhunters are allowed to be allies to the Imperial Guard, and i still get my regiment doctrines, i find that there's really no disadvantages to it. Plus, by exploiting the fact that a regular Land Raider is a transport in the Daemonhunters codex, not heavy support, I can give one to my Inquisitor Lord, and i have a Land Raider in my Guard army.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:33 pm
grey knights are fun but i find them easy to beat i trounced them with my chaos and drew them with tyranids which gk seem to be reallygood against. damn u storm bolter!!!!!lol
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:59 am
I chose my army because of looks, not style of play. May sound stupid, but looks count for just as much as the way it plays for me. Luckily for me, the Imperial Guard look and playing style fit me perfectly.
I'd say go for Space marines as a real beginners army, as they can take a beating, have friendly stats and allow for screw ups. And while they are called the newbie army, veteran marine players can be incredibly tough and surprise you with their strange armies.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:51 pm
Well see, that's a part of the delima I'm having. I want my army to look cool. Yeah, power and flexiblity and all that is nice. Having an army that wins is nice, but sometimes, you just gotta do everything with style....
stare (Warning: Don't follow my advice)
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