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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:19 am
Skeith the Terror of Debt 9. Millennium is based off of a real branch of SS who tried to create the "Ageless Immortal Soldiers" (If you want, I could go further into this topic, the story is actually pretty horrifying.) 10. Rip Van Winkle is named after the Famous character of the same name who fell asleep for 20 years and awoke to a whole new country. (Her alarm clock is the only tie-in to this) 11. (not really important, but I like it) Anderson and Abraham Van Helsing are the only two people who have ever made Alucard cry. mrgreen 12. Almost all of the characters from Hellsing are from Kohta Hirano's early works.
I'll mention something about Rip in the fact list. It goes along with Alucard being Dracula, Integra decedent from Van Helsing and Schro being related to Schrödinger's cat.
Number 11 is interesting, but more a character facet than a hard fact to list. I do want to have some parameters for this, especially as these are things the guild hopes even relatively new fans will understand. Things dealing to much with story plot will have to come out in general discussion elsewhere.
The relation of the current characters to earlier works likely bears mentioning, though I shan't list where each is from or how they differed then from now.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:31 am
Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula
(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola)
I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film.
...Alot...
Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard"
(Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...)
Or something along those lines.
Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing'
*shrugs*
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:15 pm
Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:52 pm
deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano.
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:15 pm
Basic fact:
Iscariot is named after Judas Iscariot, the disciple that betrayed Christ.
Hence, Anderson is a "Judas Priest", as Alucard calls him
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:13 am
Ace of Death deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one.  3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self...
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:08 pm
Suni moon Ace of Death deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one. 3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self... Actually, Vlad was a devout Christian who saw his wars against the Turks are a crusade. Speaking of which, it should also be included in the list of basic facts of Hellsing than Alucard was based not only on Bram Stoker's fictional vampire count, but also on the historical Vlad III Dracula (also known as "the Impaler"). It is important to note this, as, contrary to popular belief, the two are not necessarily one and the same. Stoker's character was only loosely based on Vlad (although I firmly believe that he knew more about Vlad than most people think he did). Hirano does a wonderful job of blending the them together.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:44 pm
NoLifeKing66 Suni moon Ace of Death deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one. 3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self... Actually, Vlad was a devout Christian who saw his wars against the Turks are a crusade. Speaking of which, it should also be included in the list of basic facts of Hellsing than Alucard was based not only on Bram Stoker's fictional vampire count, but also on the historical Vlad III Dracula (also known as "the Impaler"). It is important to note this, as, contrary to popular belief, the two are not necessarily one and the same. Stoker's character was only loosely based on Vlad (although I firmly believe that he knew more about Vlad than most people think he did). Hirano does a wonderful job of blending the them together. Well, yes... Yeh see...I don't really consider the crusaders...ehh...Christian...Its kinda an... oxymoron(sp) xD Damn those early catholics where crazy. Ehh, Honestly, I usually only think of Vlad as being...simply, err, Effective in his methods of keeping himself in power, and every other ruler....out of his territory... Yes, Stoker loosly based Dracula's background on Vlad, mostly because he found the name as both foreign...and because he thought it simply sounded evil. Popular belief? Its kind of funny....All the romanians still place Vlad around...hmm..."national hero" status... Yeah. Well. He did his job well but...impalement, nails in heads, scalping, skinning, boiling alive, mutilation, very disgusting things to unfaithful women.... woo hoo, sounds fun. neutral *slow clapping* (Of course, I have heard he picked up the impaling bit from his enemies...) Anyway, yeah, Hirano did quite a good job, I'm very happy he made the choise to seriously make Vlad III and Dracula the same person, afterall, Dracula was only inspired by Vlad...
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:52 pm
Suni moon NoLifeKing66 Suni moon Ace of Death deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one. 3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self... Actually, Vlad was a devout Christian who saw his wars against the Turks are a crusade. Speaking of which, it should also be included in the list of basic facts of Hellsing than Alucard was based not only on Bram Stoker's fictional vampire count, but also on the historical Vlad III Dracula (also known as "the Impaler"). It is important to note this, as, contrary to popular belief, the two are not necessarily one and the same. Stoker's character was only loosely based on Vlad (although I firmly believe that he knew more about Vlad than most people think he did). Hirano does a wonderful job of blending the them together. Well, yes... Yeh see...I don't really consider the crusaders...ehh...Christian...Its kinda an... oxymoron(sp) xD Damn those early catholics where crazy. Ehh, Honestly, I usually only think of Vlad as being...simply, err, Effective in his methods of keeping himself in power, and every other ruler....out of his territory... Yes, Stoker loosly based Dracula's background on Vlad, mostly because he found the name as both foreign...and because he thought it simply sounded evil. Popular belief? Its kind of funny....All the romanians still place Vlad around...hmm..."national hero" status... Yeah. Well. He did his job well but...impalement, nails in heads, scalping, skinning, boiling alive, mutilation, very disgusting things to unfaithful women.... woo hoo, sounds fun. neutral *slow clapping* (Of course, I have heard he picked up the impaling bit from his enemies...) Anyway, yeah, Hirano did quite a good job, I'm very happy he made the choise to seriously make Vlad III and Dracula the same person, afterall, Dracula was only inspired by Vlad... Whether or not you consider the crusaders to be Christians is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, they were. Those were different times. The idea of killing and dying for God wasn't as radical then as it is today. You can't judge them by today's standards. The fact that the Dracula was based on Vlad has become so popular that many people simply assume that the Dracula and Vlad are the same person (not so much that the Impaler was the Count, but that the Count was the Impaler). They assume that Bram Stoker knew more about Vlad than he really did (although, as I said, I believe that Bram Stoker knew more about Vlad than he is typically given credit for). That's what I meant by "popular belief". Truthfully, I admire Vlad. He did what needed to be done, regardless of what anyone else thought (although, in the end, it cost him his life). Vlad did learn about impalement from the Turks. However, Vlad's atrocities, impalement included, weren't unprecedented. They were actually quite common. Vlad simply committed them on a much greater scale. The identities of the Count and the Impaler have been blended together in most Dracula fiction (that is, works of fiction that expand upon the original Dracula story). Hellsing is no exception. Hirano has simply done a wonderful job of doing it in a very unique, seamless way.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:19 pm
NoLifeKing66 Suni moon NoLifeKing66 Suni moon Ace of Death Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one. 3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self... Actually, Vlad was a devout Christian who saw his wars against the Turks are a crusade. Speaking of which, it should also be included in the list of basic facts of Hellsing than Alucard was based not only on Bram Stoker's fictional vampire count, but also on the historical Vlad III Dracula (also known as "the Impaler"). It is important to note this, as, contrary to popular belief, the two are not necessarily one and the same. Stoker's character was only loosely based on Vlad (although I firmly believe that he knew more about Vlad than most people think he did). Hirano does a wonderful job of blending the them together. Well, yes... Yeh see...I don't really consider the crusaders...ehh...Christian...Its kinda an... oxymoron(sp) xD Damn those early catholics where crazy. Ehh, Honestly, I usually only think of Vlad as being...simply, err, Effective in his methods of keeping himself in power, and every other ruler....out of his territory... Yes, Stoker loosly based Dracula's background on Vlad, mostly because he found the name as both foreign...and because he thought it simply sounded evil. Popular belief? Its kind of funny....All the romanians still place Vlad around...hmm..."national hero" status... Yeah. Well. He did his job well but...impalement, nails in heads, scalping, skinning, boiling alive, mutilation, very disgusting things to unfaithful women.... woo hoo, sounds fun. neutral *slow clapping* (Of course, I have heard he picked up the impaling bit from his enemies...) Anyway, yeah, Hirano did quite a good job, I'm very happy he made the choise to seriously make Vlad III and Dracula the same person, afterall, Dracula was only inspired by Vlad... Whether or not you consider the crusaders to be Christians is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, they were. Those were different times. The idea of killing and dying for God wasn't as radical then as it is today. You can't judge them by today's standards. The fact that the Dracula was based on Vlad has become so popular that many people simply assume that the Dracula and Vlad are the same person (not so much that the Impaler was the Count, but that the Count was the Impaler). They assume that Bram Stoker knew more about Vlad than he really did (although, as I said, I believe that Bram Stoker knew more about Vlad than he is typically given credit for). That's what I meant by "popular belief". Truthfully, I admire Vlad. He did what needed to be done, regardless of what anyone else thought (although, in the end, it cost him his life). Vlad did learn about impalement from the Turks. However, Vlad's atrocities, impalement included, weren't unprecedented. They were actually quite common. Vlad simply committed them on a much greater scale. The identities of the Count and the Impaler have been blended together in most Dracula fiction (that is, works of fiction that expand upon the original Dracula story). Hellsing is no exception. Hirano has simply done a wonderful job of doing it in a very unique, seamless way. Well, with Vlad, I'm really not going to take a side on that debate. Whatever countries he crushed are going to write the history of him differently...But, I will say "did what had to be done" stretches things abit...Sure, like you said, this sort of behavior was common in this time frame, but Vlad did go a little...ehh...overkill. Anyway, I think some lyrics from a song in the musical 'Wicked' can sum it up... (Oh dear God, I'm bringing broadway into this. SORRY.) "A man's called a traitor - or liberator A rich man's a thief - or philanthropist Is one a crusader, or ruthless invader? It's all in which label Is able to persist" Yeah. That pretty much says it. 3nodding By the way, I mostly brought up that Christian or not thing to mention why I forgot he was Christian. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:13 pm
Overkill..... that word does not exist in my vocabulary.....
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:08 pm
umm, btw, i just noticed, i don't know whether it was simply for comedic effect or not, but apparently Hellsing's vampires DO have reflections, or maybe it's just seras because she's still mostly human?  or maybe it's just because they thought it was funny to confuse the fans. stare ah well...
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:11 pm
Suni moon Ace of Death deathbybox Suni moon Ermm, not sure if its too much of an addition, but Hirano also drew from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula(Directed by Francis Ford Coppola) I do believe his main recourses where the both the Bram Stoker novle and alot heavily drawn from this film. ...Alot... Also, in addition to the Hellsing being the family name, according to the booklets in the japanese DVD it also stands for "Her Royal England Legions of Legitimate Supernatural and Immortal Night Guard" (Whooo, sounds like Engrish to me...) Or something along those lines. Which may be why they go by the anglicized 'Hellsing' instead of 'Van Helsing' *shrugs* Alucard does look A LOT like Dracula from that version of the movie. Was that the one with Gary Oldman? 'Cause that's part of what influenced Hirano. Yesh, Thats the one. 3nodding The whole, love for Mina thing came out of that film...same with the idea of Vlad's extreme christianity and junk. And I'm going to have to say that Alucards style was drawn from Gary Oldman portrayal...alot.. Hirano was probably more inspired by this film then the original novel its self... duuuuude, similar costume even. now i'm gonna hafta go find the movie just out of... GARY OLDMAN?!?!?! ... now my brain hurts. i'm REALLY going to need to see that movie now.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:33 pm
NoLifeKing66 ... Truthfully, I admire Vlad. He did what needed to be done, regardless of what anyone else thought (although, in the end, it cost him his life). Vlad did learn about impalement from the Turks. However, Vlad's atrocities, impalement included, weren't unprecedented. They were actually quite common. Vlad simply committed them on a much greater scale. ... Vlad is considered a hero in his native land. He is also one of my heroes, mainly for the reasons NoLifeKing66 stated. In that day and age, you survived only because your enemies couldn't, or thought they couldn't, take you out. Thus the tactics of fear and misinformation, which is what many reports of Vlad's acts are, worked in his favor. After all, even when he was a prisoner, everyone still feared him. This probably saved his life. Times were different then; they were far more brutal. You killed if you wanted to live.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:59 am
michigami umm, btw, i just noticed, i don't know whether it was simply for comedic effect or not, but apparently Hellsing's vampires DO have reflections, or maybe it's just seras because she's still mostly human? or maybe it's just because they thought it was funny to confuse the fans. stare ah well... Explanation! In the days that the 'mirror myths' started, most mirrors were backed with silver. Hence, a vampire would be unable to see his/her reflection in one. Nowadays, it's cheaper to back them with a silver colored foil or some such thing. Now, -expensive- mirrors are still backed with silver, but I highly doubt Seras' handy-dandy hand mirror would be anything other than a cheapy. SO! If Seras looked into a GOOD mirror, there would be no reflection. In any other case, though, she should be able to see herself just fine.
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