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Nikolita
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:49 pm


The whore of stories
Nikolita
The whore of stories
Now of course this is going to be touchy, but should brother sister relationships be treated any differently?

I mean as far as activities go. Dating, kissing, and other such? Other than the fact that they should be hidden?

I think they should. Most of society will probably say the same.
I said other than the fact that they should be hidden.

I mean other than hiding it, should we do anything else, is there any special procausions, or should we treat it like a normal relationship?


Yay, now I can answer this since you're staying. smile

I would say take special precautions. Even if there is no major risk of genetic inbreeding as a result of incest, I'm presuming you still don't want to get your sister pregnant, right? Make sure you use proper birth control - use spermicide along with a condom and your other birth control method even, if it will help.
Also consider that if there is no inbreeding (over multiple generations), consider the risk of your child being born with a disorder or disability as the result of the incest.
Talk to your sister, and decide what you two will do if she becomes pregnant. In that case, you can treat your relationship as any other, because all couples should talk about what they will do in case the unlikely happens (pregnancy, STD, etc).

As people have told you already, keep in mind your family and social reprocussions. Even if you want to keep it a secret from your family, what if someone finds out? What will you and your sister do then? Have you prepared some of the things that you'll tell your family, just in case?
Keep in mind you can both go to jail, if incest is illegal in your state. Or you at least, I'm guessing, since you're the older sibling.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:59 pm


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As people have told you already, keep in mind your family and social reprocussions. Even if you want to keep it a secret from your family, what if someone finds out? What will you and your sister do then? Have you prepared some of the things that you'll tell your family, just in case?
Keep in mind you can both go to jail, if incest is illegal in your state. Or you at least, I'm guessing, since you're the older sibling.
Hmm. Well my fther is a highly logical man. If we were caught it would prolly be in the dark, and he would think it was me and another girl and just leave us be.

If he found out it was my sis I he wouldn't send us to jail, and infact he wouldnt seperate us. He would use corporal punishment, because that is just him.

My mom is close to dieing, and even though this sounds cold I don't think she'd care enough to make a fuss.

We don't do stuff like that in public.

We do use proper protection.

We will both be of legal age, and I do kinda hate the fact that no one will believe it is mutual because I'am older and male.

The whore of stories


Nikolita
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:42 am


Well, even if it's corporal punishment, do you still want to get beaten? And what if he discovers you two, and turns on the light and sees that you're with your sister, and not some other girl - what will you do then?

Regarding proper protection, that doesn't matter - as long as you're having sex, she can get pregnant. Doesn't matter how many methods of birth control you're using. The only 100% effectiove method is abstinence. There are women who have gotten pregnant from being on the Pill AND using a condom, so things like that are possible. Just keep it in mind.

When is legal age of consent in your state? (Just curious, since I don't know US law very well)
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:29 pm


I never dated and I'm only 16. <.< I wouldn't be allowed to date until I'm 18/19 ((which is fine with me because there aren't any guys I like at school anyway.))

After I finished high school, I am planning to go over to California and go to college there. By then, I would be able to date (on my very first date). whee heart I guess the problem is that I'm worried that I might have to get defensive towards my boyfriend (who I know through online and my cousin).
*~*~*

I know that NOT ALL online relationships are truthful. That's why I'm worried. This will be my first date once I go to California and meet my boyfriend. I don't want to be defensive knowing that I felt he was perfect for me. Please give me some advice. heart

aino10shi


Kaeru Mercury

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:52 pm


Okay, I think this mostly falls under dating...

Anyway, here's the deal... um, I guess I need backstory, incase people haven't read the thread I had a while ago.

Made out with guy for stupidest reasons ever. Guy started liking me and called me all the time, but I was too dense to realize. Long time passes. Guy gets new girlfriend. Sees guy in a skating competettion after not seeing him for a long time and falls hard. Time passes crushing on guy with flirty moments, fun, and encouragment from friends. Guy breaks up with girlfriend. A while later, guy kisses me, then claims it was a mistake, telling me I'm an awesome girl, but he just doesn't. Promise to still be friends. Breakdown when at home. Mixed signals or ill chosen words like 'I didn't stop because I don't like you'. Friend talks to him and then tells me guy does like me but doesn't want to make same mistakes as first girlfriend or ruin the friendship. Time goes on, seemingly normal, but with awkward moments and a few flirty things here and there. Never attempt to really talk about it because I've never been able to bring up anything like that because I fear it would ruin any relationship at all I have with him.

Okay, now that that's up to speed... as of recently, my crush has recently decided to stop going on msn, saying he hates it. well, the fact of the matter is that he lives far away, as well as goes to school far away. Group hang outs are hard to organize, since all our mutual friends are his age and in cejep. So... basically, I never get to see him. which, despite myself, tears me apart. He came on msn once a few days ago, telling me he was off msn completely since he had a phone now and, direct quoting, 'just call here next time you wanna talk to me just call wink '

Along with this small exchange...

Me: call you to tell you I downloaded a song? gosh, I'd hate to go on a phone bill for that ><
Him: hehe
Him: well if anything elts arises
Me: Mm, okay

Now, this boy has never been good with words... and I'm porbly reading waaaaaaaaay too much into this. But, like... a wink?! And, in the past, he's told me 'xoxo' before I leave or used the kiss emotion at least once. With all his lack of common sense, you'd think he'd know better when speaking to someone who likes him? I mean, gosh, he still apologizes sometimes for kissing me! But, like, sorta outta no where... like, he reads too much into something when I say sorry... and turns it into an awkward moment... or something. The question I'm trying to ask is, should I call him? I mean, my friend has no trouble randomely calling people... but gosh, I do! But I wanna see him, or at least talk to him, so bad... but his best friend also lives with his family during the school year, and I'm pretty sure he already suspects... I don't know what I'd do if he answered @_@ But, gosh, am I being dense and not picking up signs again? When he used to call me every day when he liked me, I thought he was calling outta guilt and everyone conversation was working up the nerve to lay down the law about how we'd made out... but gosh, this became long, sorry eek
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:27 am


hmm...not what I expected, but It's ok and still usefull!!! thanx!!

Pigpower


Nikolita
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:21 pm


aino10shi
I never dated and I'm only 16. <.< I wouldn't be allowed to date until I'm 18/19 ((which is fine with me because there aren't any guys I like at school anyway.))

After I finished high school, I am planning to go over to California and go to college there. By then, I would be able to date (on my very first date). whee heart I guess the problem is that I'm worried that I might have to get defensive towards my boyfriend (who I know through online and my cousin).
*~*~*

I know that NOT ALL online relationships are truthful. That's why I'm worried. This will be my first date once I go to California and meet my boyfriend. I don't want to be defensive knowing that I felt he was perfect for me. Please give me some advice. heart


I really don't know what to tell you. sweatdrop I mean it's your chance to take - you won't be able to really see what he is like until you go to meet him, and then it will be your choice about whether or not you want to stay with him.
If people find out that you two met online and give you heck for it, tell them that it is really not any of their business. Your relationship with your boyfriend is your own business, and nobody else's.

Maybe go meet him a little earlier before you go to college? Because if you go to meet him, and then things turn out bad and you decide not to stay together, then you'd have no reason to be going to college in California. whee

That's all I can think of to say, sorry, but I meant no offense.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:25 pm


Kaeru Mercury
Okay, I think this mostly falls under dating...

Anyway, here's the deal... um, I guess I need backstory, incase people haven't read the thread I had a while ago.

Made out with guy for stupidest reasons ever. Guy started liking me and called me all the time, but I was too dense to realize. Long time passes. Guy gets new girlfriend. Sees guy in a skating competettion after not seeing him for a long time and falls hard. Time passes crushing on guy with flirty moments, fun, and encouragment from friends. Guy breaks up with girlfriend. A while later, guy kisses me, then claims it was a mistake, telling me I'm an awesome girl, but he just doesn't. Promise to still be friends. Breakdown when at home. Mixed signals or ill chosen words like 'I didn't stop because I don't like you'. Friend talks to him and then tells me guy does like me but doesn't want to make same mistakes as first girlfriend or ruin the friendship. Time goes on, seemingly normal, but with awkward moments and a few flirty things here and there. Never attempt to really talk about it because I've never been able to bring up anything like that because I fear it would ruin any relationship at all I have with him.

Okay, now that that's up to speed... as of recently, my crush has recently decided to stop going on msn, saying he hates it. well, the fact of the matter is that he lives far away, as well as goes to school far away. Group hang outs are hard to organize, since all our mutual friends are his age and in cejep. So... basically, I never get to see him. which, despite myself, tears me apart. He came on msn once a few days ago, telling me he was off msn completely since he had a phone now and, direct quoting, 'just call here next time you wanna talk to me just call wink '

Along with this small exchange...

Me: call you to tell you I downloaded a song? gosh, I'd hate to go on a phone bill for that ><
Him: hehe
Him: well if anything elts arises
Me: Mm, okay

Now, this boy has never been good with words... and I'm porbly reading waaaaaaaaay too much into this. But, like... a wink?! And, in the past, he's told me 'xoxo' before I leave or used the kiss emotion at least once. With all his lack of common sense, you'd think he'd know better when speaking to someone who likes him? I mean, gosh, he still apologizes sometimes for kissing me! But, like, sorta outta no where... like, he reads too much into something when I say sorry... and turns it into an awkward moment... or something. The question I'm trying to ask is, should I call him? I mean, my friend has no trouble randomely calling people... but gosh, I do! But I wanna see him, or at least talk to him, so bad... but his best friend also lives with his family during the school year, and I'm pretty sure he already suspects... I don't know what I'd do if he answered @_@ But, gosh, am I being dense and not picking up signs again? When he used to call me every day when he liked me, I thought he was calling outta guilt and everyone conversation was working up the nerve to lay down the law about how we'd made out... but gosh, this became long, sorry eek


Could you call him, or get your friend to try calling him? Tell him you'd like to see him sometime, and ask if he'd like to hang out with you. Or, suggest that your friend come along, and the three of you can do something together. Just going to the beach, seeing a movie, etc. Something casual that won't intimidate you or the guy you like. It might make him feel less pressured if there's more people, instead of just the two of you - or maybe he'll suggest the two of you doing something together.
Either way, you won't know until you ask. xd

Sorry if that wasn't good advice, it's all I can think of at the moment.

Nikolita
Captain


Kaeru Mercury

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:04 pm


Nikolita
Could you call him, or get your friend to try calling him? Tell him you'd like to see him sometime, and ask if he'd like to hang out with you. Or, suggest that your friend come along, and the three of you can do something together. Just going to the beach, seeing a movie, etc. Something casual that won't intimidate you or the guy you like. It might make him feel less pressured if there's more people, instead of just the two of you - or maybe he'll suggest the two of you doing something together.
Either way, you won't know until you ask. xd

Sorry if that wasn't good advice, it's all I can think of at the moment.


Actually, by call him... I meant just that, call him. Not to go out or anything at all heh. Lame, I know. But I just... um, I know he's busy and stuff, so I don't expect to see him all the time. But I love talking to him and our phone conversations were always fun in the past. I'm just... having trouble gettin the nerve to actually call, with everything that's happened between us, I mean, and wondering... like... if he wants me to call, based on what he said to me and the circumstances... And gosh, I'm sure he still knows I like him, so by calling him, am I, like, declaring it? I'm always nervous about stuff like that, since I've never been good with the limits between friend and 'special' friend. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:07 pm


You could always just call and tell him you missed your fun conversations with him. 3nodding Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.

Nikolita
Captain


Kaeru Mercury

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:25 pm


Nikolita
You could always just call and tell him you missed your fun conversations with him. 3nodding Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.


Haha, I was all pumped to call him... but I wussed out whee But I'm thinking to call him maybe tomorrow about how I looked so hard for shoes, but couldn't find any after 5 stores, and drastically need help.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:50 pm


Kaeru Mercury
Nikolita
You could always just call and tell him you missed your fun conversations with him. 3nodding Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.


Haha, I was all pumped to call him... but I wussed out whee But I'm thinking to call him maybe tomorrow about how I looked so hard for shoes, but couldn't find any after 5 stores, and drastically need help.

Call him tomorrow then! blaugh heart

Nikolita
Captain


Kaeru Mercury

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:12 pm


Ha, I don't know if anyone cares, but I like to post these little updates because then, hopefully, in a few weeks I can look back and laugh... but I wussed out about calling him again, dontcha know. sweatdrop Maybe next week I'll be woman enough to go after the boy I like- I mean, if I don't act quick, he'll be swooped up by one of the girls in his art class! they're are three boys in that class! Three! Outta, like... 25, was it? Something like that!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:42 pm


Nikolita
aino10shi
I never dated and I'm only 16. <.< I wouldn't be allowed to date until I'm 18/19 ((which is fine with me because there aren't any guys I like at school anyway.))

After I finished high school, I am planning to go over to California and go to college there. By then, I would be able to date (on my very first date). whee heart I guess the problem is that I'm worried that I might have to get defensive towards my boyfriend (who I know through online and my cousin).
*~*~*

I know that NOT ALL online relationships are truthful. That's why I'm worried. This will be my first date once I go to California and meet my boyfriend. I don't want to be defensive knowing that I felt he was perfect for me. Please give me some advice. heart


I really don't know what to tell you. sweatdrop I mean it's your chance to take - you won't be able to really see what he is like until you go to meet him, and then it will be your choice about whether or not you want to stay with him.
If people find out that you two met online and give you heck for it, tell them that it is really not any of their business. Your relationship with your boyfriend is your own business, and nobody else's.

Maybe go meet him a little earlier before you go to college? Because if you go to meet him, and then things turn out bad and you decide not to stay together, then you'd have no reason to be going to college in California. whee

That's all I can think of to say, sorry, but I meant no offense.
I just need to know if it would be okay to go over there.....I need to ask him if he's going to come over here first >.> thanks heart 3nodding

aino10shi


Teh Joshers

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:57 pm


Here's a couple ideas for dates I've had and/or tried. I'll be hapy to answer any questions on them.

- Take him/her to a place that's special to you. A cafe, a certain thicket in the woods, a drive-in, anywhere like that. Mine is an old lighthouse point on our lake, that's just a path of old stones with a tiny post at the end, with a great lookout over the city. This shows your willing to let them in on special parts of your life.

- Do something with them they want. Example, my current girlfriend is trying to get me to come to her youth group with her; I'm trying to, but so far not much luck razz

- Make them a nice meal, nothing too fancy (unless you want to), just something you'd eat normally. Comfort foods are great ideas, like baked ziti, mac' and cheese, or some soups and bread. If you two are a little playful, have beany chili and have an... Erm.. "Flatulence contest". i've never done this, but my friend has, and apparently it was great. rolleyes

- Go out of your way to meet them somewhere casual, like work. It's great to them to see your face, and guaranteed to brighten up their day.

I've got more ideas if anyone wants them, this is just for starters. 3nodding
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