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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:46 pm
Well a lot of the grammatical "problems" I think people are complaining about is the fact that GOOD writers tend to make you READ a person's dialect.
The characters in the Great Gatsby have this stilted snobby sound to them, and I'll be damned if I can't read the Color Purple without having a southern accent seep into my speech.
I mean OMG, Finnigan's Wake by Joyce. It might as well be written as "Bees, bees, bees bees, bees, bees, bees" for all I know of dirt poor 19th century Irish slang. Reading it is like the Jabberwocky written backwards multiplied by 1000.
Oh and Re: Melville - Hi dude, we go to the beach to look at the water THAT is why we FACE said water when we go to the beach. I don't think it was necessary to write nearly a chapter treatise on how ODD it is that we all face the water when we go to the beach because IT'S SO NOT ODD!
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:58 pm
That's sad. Seriously. neutral *agrees with Illiana* I had to read "A Wrinkle in Time" in grade 7, and I finished it in a matter of days (if not sooner) because I loved reading already by that point, so it wasn't a chore for me to read the book. Catcher in the Rye I read on my own, I don't remember it too well. I haven't read Lord Of The Flies, but I own the movie and have seen it once. To Kill a Mockingbird I have both read (didn't really like) and seen (movie was "meh"), but yeah...
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:49 pm
I dunno, I'd argue today's kids are subjected to much more violence and desensitized by it, not that they're all living in a fluffy happy world. Most of the kids I've known that were younger then me were jaded and cynical and cruel at times. There will always ones that are naive and sweet, but I don't think that's the majority on that particular subject. I mean, look at how violent shows and movies have become and they don't so much as flinch [it has no effect on them at all, they shrug it off like "Oh well, bad s**t happens" ] and then think back to Psycho when it first came out and people were vomiting in the aisles and having nightmares and the violence was almost completely implied. As a society we are subjected to an over-abundance of violence, cruelty, sex, crude humor and other things that were unheard of even 50 years ago. We are greatly desensitized to things of that nature. [Personally for me, the brutality of LOTF isn't what bothered me, it was the actual writing style of the author and what I felt was a contrived and unbelievable plot.]
I still think the issue is more attention spans and lack of reading when they were younger. People in my age category were some of the first to have video games systems be common in our homes and the ones who are now graduating had that and more: multiple gaming systems, the internet, TV...none of those things nurture a healthy attention span. They just flit from thing to thing and never focus more then 30 minutes at a time. I have issues with Sesame street because none of the segments are more then a couple of minutes long. I just feel that when they aren't expected to sit down and focus on something for more then a few minutes as children, it becomes harder as they get older to actually sit down and read a book. I dunno, I think that's where some of the resentment towards books comes in: they can't read for five minutes and be done with, especially not in a class where they have to discuss and actually understand what they read.
I'm going to tuck away my soap-box now. redface
Oh, "To Kill a Mockingbird" was one of my favorite books in highschool. LOVED it. heart
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:16 pm
Nikolita Pirate Dirge
Seriously, I agree that they should be given out as part of a comprehensive sex education regiment which is proven to reduce teen pregnancy and STD rates. I'd like to know what study the...ahem...lady [ROFL] who said the studies show otherwise was quoting. Because abstinence-only education has never been shown to work in the US. But apparently it did in Uganda. -finger twirl- Totally different game there, lady. And when I went through sex-ed at least, they covered abstinence in there as well, it's not like it's just forgotten and thrown out the window.I noticed that too. Just because an abstinence-only program worked in Uganda, in no way means it will work in the US, or even in Canada. Completely different circumstances and lifestyles that make the two countries non-comparable, in my opinion. I've seen several articles in magazines like Cosmo, and on TV, that have shown how poorly abstinence-only programs have failed. I don't remember what I was taught in high school, only the bit on STD's. I know I took some sort of Family Studies class in grade 9 that was basically a review of everything I had already taught myself (finished with 9% or 96% in the class at the end of the semester), but I don't remember anything being taught about abstinence-only. Part of the reason why my guild exists is because so many people don't know the information they should know, even by high school. I did a study back in college about why we should sex education in America, and most of the studies I cited were the ones in other countries that have a comprehensive sex ed class. Those countries teen pregnancy rate and STD rates were significantly, amazingly lower than the US. I believe in 3 countries the numbers were so low that the percentage was 0%. I convinced a handful of older women (50 and up) that our city needed a comprehensive sex ed course. The ONLY person who objected was a little 23 year old who stood in the middle of class and called me horrible names, starting with the Devil and ending with words even I don't say and I cuss like a sailor. Then went on to say that I was a crime against God...some other religious stuff, some of which I didn't catch because by this time she was so angry it was like she couldn't speak properly....Wow.... **This is nothing against believers, I'm a believer, but this gal was screaming religious things at me, so it was pertinent. Although I HATE to admit it, but it seems the biggest objecters to sex ed have arguements that are religious based.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:38 am
Did the 23 year old student get in trouble for screaming obscenities at you? xd
(I'm Anglican myself, with some other beliefs, but even I can't stand overly religious people. Nothing against believers, but just people who take the Bible/litergy of their choice way too seriously, and then start trying to force it and their opinions upon others.)
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:06 am
Nikolita Did the 23 year old student get in trouble for screaming obscenities at you? xd No, the girl had gotten herself into such a state that the teacher was pretty shocked. Actually, one of the ladies ended up getting up and taking her outside the room and to the counselor. She came back the next night and noone mentioned it, but she would never speak to me and never apologized. Then again, if she'd have walked up to me I probably would have got in position to protect myself LOL Quote: (I'm Anglican myself, with some other beliefs, but even I can't stand overly religious people. Nothing against believers, but just people who take the Bible/litergy of their choice way too seriously, and then start trying to force it and their opinions upon others.) I had a pretty skewed view of religion at the time, but all those older women were Christian women very involved in the town (members of school board, chamber of commerce, etc). And the fact that it was a small town where normally those type of ideas are NOT welcome by the older generations. Really made me rethink my views.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:28 pm
Gaians never cease to amaze me with their limitless pettiness--who the hell is raising these kids to think the world always has to go their way?! scream
Sorry, I can't stand seeing tons of threads in Q&F blasting the admins for trying to keep the largest number of people happy and claiming they had no warning: that announcement went up hours ago, kids. Pull your heads out of the event from time to time and make sure you're up to date because life often changes with little to no warning.
Seriously, how are they going to cope with RL if the early end to an on-line event upsets them this much? neutral
On another note, I have to gripe a little about profiles I see RPers make up. I'm sorry but a FIVE FOOT NINE woman who only weighs 120 pounds is not going to be "medium build, skinny," she's going to be anorexic. rolleyes And we wonder why so many people have body image issues: we're always thinking women should weigh like 50 pounds less then is healthy.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:10 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:10 pm
So that means we're not supposed to post help threads in the GGN forum to report problems?
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:15 pm
scream This thread: http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10789116Because more and more children are obsessed with having a boyfriend and dating before they've even hit puberty. (Sorry, it's a personal pet peeve of mine. I have a 19 year old friend who acts like she's 16 with this new boyfriend she's got, and that drives me nuts too. So it's not just children, just young and immature people I guess. I mean no offense to anyone though.)
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:29 pm
WAIT. Since when has it been discouraged to manually switch the servers? "Back in the day" it was a normal part of Gaian life. Where was the announcement that it's suddenly not allowed? neutral
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:35 pm
Pirate Dirge WAIT. Since when has it been discouraged to manually switch the servers? "Back in the day" it was a normal part of Gaian life. Where was the announcement that it's suddenly not allowed? neutral Sorry to bother you, but what do you mean by "manually switch the servers"? And how do we Gaians do that (or is it left to the mods/admin)?
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:54 pm
Apparently it's something really new, Dirge. I don't know what the sudden problem with switching servers is, but for some reason, it is suddenly being "frowned upon."
Nikolita: Manually switching servers isn't anything complicated. All you do is replace the 'www' in any Gaian webaddress with the name of a specific server and hit enter. It's the same thing as using the 'www' load balancer, except your CHOOSING your server.
Throughout Gaia's past, some servers have worked better than others at any given time. It used to be common practice (before the 'www' load balancer was introduced) to manually switch servers if the one you were on was acting wonky.
However, like I said, apparently now it's considered to be a 'no-no.'
And as far as I know we are certainly allowed to post up help threads. Sorry if my post mislead you. Mine was removed because of the workaround I listed that made use of manual server switching, not because it was a help thread.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:03 pm
._. So when were they planning to tell US about this? I have to do it all the time with all the FUBAR crap that happens.
So some mod came in and said, "This is frowned upon and I'm not giving you a reason NYAH NYAH," and moved your thread?!
mad It's the only reason why I can even get to the guilds or the forums tonight so they can go sit on it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:02 pm
That was her reason! She moved it simply beause I made mention of manually changing the servers.
As far as I know the Admins have never made an official public announcement on MSC (manual server changing), but several Mods have advised against it.
HOWEVER, when I PMed a certain Mod friend of mine. I told that person what was going on and about having to MSC to reinhart. And that person didn't say ANYTHING negative about it.
So screw it. If the mods say I can't post it, then fine, I won't. But right now MSC is the ONLY way I can surf Gaia, so I'm gonna keep doing it until the Admins either fix the problem or offer a different workaround.
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