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Did we ....then I can agree with that.

Though I thought, a counter roll has to be higher than an attack roll to hit. I guess we never did talk about it working the other way, so let's just call it a draw and ....let's move on. Though there would still be no dmg either way.

Making it permenant, attack roll must be higher than counter roll to hit and vice versa.

I am not sure ...I get what you are saying or really asking at this point. So, I may be completely off base with this explanation.

A critical raises the accuracy roll of that turn ...kind of like finding the bull's eye on a target. Once you find it, its easier to find it again then it is if you never found it.

A fumble is like a confident booster in reverse. Pretty much it simply effects your accuracy rolls, but both critical rolls and fumble rolls are null out during a counter for the the user of the counter.

It ends up adding to the damage through the roll, and critical hits ....which is the one that actually adds to damage depends on the attack. Generally it doubles the attack stats or sp. attack stats. Is that what you are talking about?

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Sorry to tell you, but it seems to have worked out that way.


And that was a good post too, but i figure it was best to keep it simple and sweet since it was all over.

Oh yeah, I forgot Tsuki ...favorite turtle as well: Rapheal

I might.



Honestly speaking I didn't understand those lines at the very bottom worth a damn.

Anyway I still continue not to agree with you on this one. I always thought of Criticals and Fumbles as being all about confidence. The fact that you struck a certain point is all luck in a critical, but the confidence you feel for striking such a decisive blow remains constant, You're, for lack of a better term, jazzed. You're feeling great about it, and for it you put that much more effort behind the blow. Your aims no better, but you're striking that much harder.

With Fumbles I always imagined the polar opposite of that. You screwed up, badly. Your confidence is at an all time low. You're putting that much less behind your attack or defense because you're not sure you won't just screw it up again. Every blow you take from then on feels that much more painful because of it, like adding insult to injury.

You are thinking of a critical hit ....when you hit someone and it's harder then you have ever hit before. It boosts your confident, but it makes your opponent more weary of the blow and trying their best not to let you get that sort of a hit in again.

I mean, you hit me hard and I back off ...and you may charge forward, but I will be trying to protect that area where you got the critical hit. That is why it doesn't last longer than one turn ...you aren't likely to get that lucky again.

Critical rolls, is when your accuracy is perfect. It boost your confidence in your aim ...not in your hitting ability ...I don't see how rolling a 20 on your dice roll, which is your accuracy will effect your actual hitting ability ...just your aim.

Basically as a way of simplifying, only certain moves get the 'Critical Hit!' status like slash and such where the roll makes the damage double up, but anything else rolling a 20, it's just a boost of stamina the Pokemon gets to the battle, and the dice gets upgraded for the remainder of the fight =0

So the dice upgrade covers both the accuracy and calc, it's simply just a classic +1

Yes I know that Jazz, the problem is that while I understand it, I don't completely agree with it. The +1 to the actual Accuracy Roll itself is not something I've ever done. I've always only added that to the calc as my personal perspective doesn't support it aiding the aim as well.



Oh nurtz.....um....did the Battle Room potion already take effect before this?