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I watched the whole episode. 3nodding I'm just interested in all the issues so it kept me there for an hour.

People tend to take such extremist opinions that it's hard to know whether to laugh or be angry because it makes them sound so ridiculous. Anyone who thinks that schools hand out condoms willy-nilly with the lunch seriously needs a reality check.

Seriously, I agree that they should be given out as part of a comprehensive sex education regiment which is proven to reduce teen pregnancy and STD rates. I'd like to know what study the...ahem...lady [ROFL] who said the studies show otherwise was quoting. Because abstinence-only education has never been shown to work in the US. But apparently it did in Uganda. -finger twirl- Totally different game there, lady. And when I went through sex-ed at least, they covered abstinence in there as well, it's not like it's just forgotten and thrown out the window.


EDIT: Yeah, back to the BF topic, he was more interested in getting a real answer from "oh it's not attractive at all," woman then being upset with the mother who doesn't feel she has to cover up. Because at least she could articulate how she felt rather then avoiding the real question.

From a recent study of the southern states (considering they are BIG on the ab-only programs):

... For example, AIDS cases rose 27 percent for six Southern states - Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana - between 2000 and 2002. Whetten said such cases only rose by 11 percent during the same period in the entire Midwest.

A separate study found that North Carolina AIDS rates increased by 36 percent between 2001 and 2003.

"These six states are in a lot of trouble," Whetten said. "You're better off being born in Costa Rica or some South American countries than in Durham, N.C."

In addition, the nation's highest rates of chlamydia and gonorrhea remain in Southeastern states, many of which are plagued with high poverty levels, poor health care resources and low levels of health insurance coverage. ...

-Sun Herald, Mississippi

The reason for the rise in STDs is Ab-only programs make them sign contracts saying they won't have intercourse, however do not explain that STDs are passed orally/anally as well. So tons of GIRLS are performing oral sex/a**l sex and thinking that they are not breaking their "contract" meanwhile spreading disease around like rhesus monkies. Further the study found that girls who DECIDED to have intercourse were 65 percent less likely to use condoms over half of them stating feeling guilty for breaking the contract.

However, A program in Philadelphia that has young women practice condom use and roleplay negotiations for safe sex has shown measurable improvements in the rate of STDs in an at risk population:


... One year later, girls in the skills-based program were less likely than their peers to have an STD; about 10 percent tested positive, versus 18 percent in the general-health program and 15 percent in the STD-information program.

They also reported fewer instances of unprotected sex than girls in either of the other groups, and were less likely to say they'd had multiple sexual partners in the past 3 months.

There were, however, no clear differences between the groups at an earlier time point, 3 and 6 months after the classes. The apparent "delayed effect" of the skills-based program, Jemmott and his colleagues note, may indicate that it's hard for girls to start safer-sex practices in their existing relationships. Instead, they may be better able to use what they've learned at the beginning of a new relationship.

Though past studies have found that teenagers in STD-prevention programs report changes in their sexual behavior afterward, this study -- by actually screening for STDs -- helps confirm that the changes are real, according to the researchers. ...
-May 2005

Argh! I have this new guild member I was sort of hesitant to let join, but now I am considering banning her. This is some of the BS she is posting:



And then after I replied to that post and contradicted her on a couple of points, this was her reply:



I have asked her to tone it down, because I am a bit upset with her, and I know there are going to be guild members who will be upset with her if she continues to talk that way. I did send her a warning by PM, so I'll check Gaia after class later tonight to see if she's said anything back.

In your guys' opinion, should I just ban her outright, or should I give her another chance (which is what I've already done)?

Thanks, sorry. heart No one has replied to any of her posts but me, but I will be out at school until late tonight, so I will be keeping an eye on the guild on my break. I posted the warning in the thread, and I PM'ed her the same warning, so she knows she can't do it again or else she'll be banned.
She is a feminist, which I think she mentioned in her request to join form (being all for women's rights, or something like that), which I don't mind - what bothers me is she's going out of her way to degrade the opposite gender, for no reason. I mean sure, say the woman's clitoris has twice as many nerve endings as the head of a man's p***s - that still doesn't make his orgasms or anything less powerful or special.

And yeah, I did post and tell her that men can have more than one orgasm. 3nodding I used to make my ex orgasm back to back sometimes, and it was fun to watch. He'd be so out of it afterwards because he'd be so drained. xd

That's what I was thinking. I think I said in my reply post to her, something about her not having slept with anyone/with the right person yet, otherwise she'd know, and wouldn't be spouting off this supposedly fact-based BS.

She hasn't PM'ed me back, so I'm just keeping an eye on her.

Hmm, I "HOPE" my kids will abstain from sex until they are married, but just because they won't doesn't mean I want them getting condoms w/o my knowledge. As their parent I have to sign a form saying they can take asprin, yet they can hand out condom w/o my knowledge? It's just an odd oxymoron in my eyes. How many sexually active teens are actually going and getting their annual gyno exams done? Or doing monthly breast exams? I just feel the need to know that my kid is sexually active and would want to know how they are protecting themselves. I also would ensure they get annual health exams done for their own protection, male or female I just feel handing them outw/o the parent's knowledge opens the door for secracy that shouldn't be in a parent/child relationship and it allows many children to fall through the gaps. If they are going to hand them out...at least inform the parents what is going on.

Parents are usually notified when handing out condoms is part of the sex-education curriculum. However, when they get to college you're SOL as far as getting notification of anything other than a general "parent's calendar" My Freshman year of college, I was 18, Planned Parenthood was in the student lounge near the cafeteria, lady had CRATES of condoms and my husband actually went up and took like 70 of them and she goes "go ahead get more!" and just kept putting them out on the table.

Second, I don't know about where you live, but even in our Targets and Grocery stores condoms are behind the pharmacy counters or locked behind glass, because they are stolen like crazy.

Even I'D be a little embarrassed to tell the pharmacist to please give me the Trojan extra sensitive. I'd do it because I'm a responsible adult, but there's a reason they're stolen so often. Because kids take them instead of buy them.

Further, the asprin thing, well if my kid is coming down with the flu, for one, I certainly don't want ANYONE to be able to give them asprin...as it can KILL them. And that's why medications need WRITTEN permission while condoms may not.