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I love that phrase.

Rose by any other name is still a rose. Someone who's pregnant is pregnant; You can't say just one group is an incubator because they don't want to be pregnant.

That just means that willingly pregnant women are happy incubators. confused

Sorry, Le Chat, but this is our guild, and specifically our rant thread. I'm gonna feel free to point out these things whether you like it or not.

I stand by calling Pro-Choicers Pro-Abortion. Sorry Le Chat, but you support the legalization of at-will abortion. In the same way, I am Anti-Abortion because I support the illegalization of at-will abortion. To say, "No, Pro-Abortion people want to force abortion on you!" or "No, Anti-Abortion people want abortion illegal in all cases, with no exceptions!" is just silly, because those aren't the only two different versions of Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, respectively, out there.

Are we going to have to have a specific name for Pro-Choicers who want abortion legal up until the end of the 9th month? Or Pro-Lifers who support abortion in the case of rape or incest? Or the Pro-Choicers who support abortion only until the end of the 2nd trimester? Or Pro-Lifers who support Emergency Contraception, the "Morning After" pill? Or Pro-Choicers who are Pro-Choice politically, but still think that abortion is wrong, they just don't think we have the right to regulate it? (They call themselves "Pro-Choice political, Pro-Life personal," but I'm talking about another short and sweet label.)

No. Because that would be silly, and would splinter both sides into tiny, tiny groups, and it would just be ridiculous. No one has the -exact- same beliefs as someone else. To single out one group of Pro-Choicers, or one group of Pro-Lifers, and say, "No, you're not really Pro-Choice/Pro-Life. Even though you agree with us except on this one point, we're not going to include you." is just so stupid. I'm sorry, but it's true, in my opinion.

Anti-Choice is a different situation entirely, because the name doesn't at all apply to Pro-Lifers. I know you people call this nitpicking, but it's really not: To be Anti-Choice would be to support putting a chip in everyone's brain, so that they can't do anything that the Government doesn't want them to do. We don't want to do that. We only want there to be legal repurcussions to abortion, in the same way that there are legal repurcussions to other choices that result in the death or injury of another person.

Not that I would call anyone Pro-Abortion; But that is because ya'll don't like being called Pro-Abortion, not because it's not true.

i say we call the pro choiceers anti choice. They are the ones who deny people the choice to live after all.

Being forced to "have sex," so to speak: Bad. Evil. Totally inexcusable, a violation of bodily integrity, and women should certainly have the right to refuse sex.
Being forced to remain pregnant after you willingly did something that could make you pregnant: Well, you knew the risk, you took it anyways. If you're so opposed to getting pregnant, there's a very easy way of ensuring that it never happens.

I'm SO SICK AND TIRED OF BEING STEREOTYPED!

Whenever I say I'm prolife...

"OMG you don't consider it from a woman's point of view! You think I'm a murderer and that I'm heartless and like killing babies, well I don't you close-minded religious nut!"

WELL DUH! How many people out there are there that like killing babies? I mean, come on, how one-dimensional can they POSSIBLY think we are?

"You want women to be raped!" OH YES that's right, as a woman who has been sexually abused, I want women to be raped, because everyone who is pro-life likes that, we get off to the thought of women being abused in horrible ways.

I'm sick and tired of it. I can't stand it. I hate it.

The speech is getting so old my fingers can type it with my brain shut off.

"Well actually, that's not true, you're just assuming that since I don't agree with you I must be evil, stupid, and a misogynist, you annoying little *beep*"

I've never said that. I actually didn't even used to think it. At first it was just, well, that's how we're portrayed so it makes sense to think we're like that.

But it's too smurfing much. That's right. I smurfed. And I will continue to smurf! SMURF SMURF SMURF SMURF! Because that's where I am right now, I'm smurfy.

SMURF.

xd Ever notice how funny that word looks?

Anyway. Yes. I'm sick of it. And all that. "Oh you think that we're heartless and cruel, but the truth is we just care about women more than you do." Well played, brainiac, way to be an ignorant little smurf. "You don't agree with me, therefore, you must not be as advanced as I am, because I must be right, no question about it! Sure, I've never actually looked at things from your point of view, just from what I perceive to be your point of view...so I'm going to assume you do the same thing and only look at things from what your extremists categorize us as. After all, we won't take the time to actually probe and consider your point of view, so why the smurf would you do it for us?" BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH MORE THAN HALF A BRAIN AND I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THINGS BEFORE JUMPING ON A BANDWAGON BECAUSE SOMEONE GOES, ZOMG, CHOICE IS POWER!

I'm done now.

Wait.

SMURF.

Now I'm done.

honestly, it's always been in my opinion that a woman is violating the integrity of her own body by perversing it's natural functions to abort. I think one of the things that disturbs me most is how rooted choicers can be, and some don't even stop to think how value based and opinionated they're reasons are, and more or less that there is another way to look at concepts like murder, babies, or integrity. What constitutes bodily integrity? Do I have to agree with what a choicer deems that answer to be? Personally a lot of my opinion has to do with not only the fact that pregnancy is a natural female function, but my religion has made the inability to carry children a curse. Hence I see it as the body's integrity being violated.