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 Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:48 pm
Edited now.
HQ:
Company Captain x1 - Stormbolter/lightning claws/Artificer armour Command Squad x5 - Champion, Banner, Apothecary, 2 combi weapons and a plasma pistol
Elites:
Terminator Squad x5 - All storm bolters + fists, sarge with power weapon
Dreadnaught - Standard issue
Troops:
Tactical squad x10 - Plasmagun, Multi-melta
Tactical x10 - Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Fast attack:
Assault x5 - sarge powerweapon and 1 flamer
Heavy Support:
Devatator x5 - sarge with powerfist + plasma pistol, 1 heavy bolter, 1 missile, 2 Lascannons
Vindicator x1 - Storm bolter + dozer
Dedicated transport:
Rhino x2 - Both with storm bolters, or easily swap one with a hunter killer.
total points: 1553
one rhino may have a Counts-as whirlwind conversion back and count as a whirwind.
Any issues with this list?
I am so close to 1500 it hurts, but I don't know what to shave off, other than one tactical squad can be exchanged with a squad who has all free weapon upgrades.
Suggestions? again?
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:22 pm
bjs.09-00 Any issues with this list? I am so close to 1500 it hurts, but I don't know what to shave off, other than one tactical squad can be exchanged with a squad who has all free weapon upgrades. Suggestions? again? Well, this list makes a very good balanced army, anti tank and anti infantry, however, the rhinos might be a way to bring down the point cost. I rarely use my rhino anymore, sure its a cheap way to move troops around, but I just see it as cover that I can move. I mean, with an 11 front and side armor, it really isnt that great. (Which is one fault of this game I think, the APCs have shitty armor) If you dont go first turn chances are the rhinos are going to be some of the first things to go, and perhaps a couple of marines with it. Also, you cant assault out of them, so if you dis embark and shoot within rapid fire range, you get assaulted next turn, and your opponent gets the charge. Love the vindicator, take out a whole 5 man of terminators in a single shot biggrin Another place I see points that could be shaved is your devastator squad, the power fist and plasma pistol that you give to your sergeant is kind of a waste, when will he ever use them, the point of the devastator squad is to shoot from a distance. Other than those things, pretty round list, tell me how it works out ;D
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:40 pm
Yea, just get rid of Power Fist and Plasma, and I think your about 30 points down, although I dont have the codex with me.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:09 pm
mainly the Fist and plasma pistol are..insurance. Against assault. now that I think about it, ima bloomin idget. lol and I was hoping I could kekeke rush any objectives with my rhinos and tacticals. If nothing else, i jsut won't use them untill I really have to.
According to my Excel chart, which adds points up as I add options and units, I am about 2 pasmal pistols and one 10 point option off from a full list.
blast em and my plasma pistol loving ways.
stressed
HQ:
Company Captain x1 - Stormbolter/lightning claws/Artificer armour Command Squad x5 - Champion, Banner, Apothecary, 2 combi weapons and a plasma pistol
Elites:
Terminator Squad x5 - All storm bolters + fists, sarge with power weapon
Dreadnaught - Standard issue
Troops:
Tactical squad x10 - Plasmagun, Multi-melta
Tactical x10 - Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Fast attack:
Assault x5 - sarge powerweapon and 1 flamer
Heavy Support:
Devatator x5 - 1 heavy bolter, 1 missile, 2 Lascannons
Vindicator x1 - Storm bolter + dozer
Dedicated transport:
Rhino x2 - Both with storm bolters, or easily swap one with a hunter killer.
total points: 1513
anyhere where I should echnage somebody a fist or two? I fee that if i don't have at east one I won't have the 'punch' I need.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:15 pm
Get rid of a combi weapon, thats what I'd do any ways.
Are you going to split your tactical squads into combat squads?
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:24 pm
Jason Da Psycho Get rid of a combi weapon, that's what I'd do any ways. Are you going to split your tactical squads into combat squads? I have spare marines just for that, if need be. until i get some gaming experience, I planned to try out the full squads, to see how effective I coud be with them, and if not, I'd use combat squads, replacing the unusable heavy weapons as need be. And which combi weapon? or both? I have 2 in my command squad, one pasma one melta. and if i do, what should they be replaced with?
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:58 pm
I think he means just take them out because you are still 13 points over
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:15 pm
HQ:
Company Captain x1 - Stormbolter/lightning claws/Artificer armour Command Squad x5 - Champion, Banner, Apothecary, and a plasma pistol
Elites:
Terminator Squad x5 - All storm bolters + fists, sarge with power weapon
Dreadnaught - Standard issue
Troops:
Tactical squad x10 - sarge with pasma pistol, Plasmagun, Multi-melta
Tactical x10 - Sarge with plasma pistol, Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Fast attack:
Assault x5 - sarge powerfist and 1 flamer
Heavy Support:
Devatator x5 - sarge with plasma pistol, 1 heavy bolter, 1 missile, 2 Lascannons
Vindicator x1 - Storm bolter + dozer
Dedicated transport:
total points: 1493
that look about good?
(EDITED: removed the rhinos, replaced with a shooty squads having pistol sergeants. also put powerfist with assault squad.)
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:47 pm
Dont really feel like typing the entire thing out so ill put the slightly more important stuff in
OK so the most recent army i played with was an appocalypse 10k pt battle took about 32 hours total to play, helps that me and one of the friends have basically memorized the 5th ed rules. 2v2 10k pts apeice by the way.
HQ- 265 Marneus Calgar, Armor of Antilochus was the only upgrade i put on him.
Retinue- 620 Full Honour Guard Squad, ripped my friends hq to shreds with marneus and the retinue. Had the chapter banner and all models had Relic Blades.
HQ-885
Troops- 4 Tactical Squads, All 10 man squads each had a different weapon. 2 had lascannons and another had a plasma and the other had a missle launcher.
Troop- 715 total
Elite- Base of my army right here.
8-Full Assault Term Squads. 3 with storm shield and thunder hammer. 3200pts
4-Full Normal Term Squads 1 equipped with heavy flamers 2 with assault cannons and 1 with cyclones. flamer squad had all chainfists instead of powerfists. 1840 pts
And the kicker was: Apocalypse Formation: Thunderhawks
3- All with the cannon upgrade 960pts apiece.
I fielded two Land Raider's too =D i might have messed up on points cause i have the units i used but not the points so i had to do it from my book and a calculater so i dont have completely accurate we each went over the others list before we started.
If you cant tell the way i played i dropped three of the assault squads in with my thunderhawks killed 3 full gaunt squads in the first charge
(a crap ton? they got owned by the fact the couldnt do anything.) Brought my tactical squads close enough had a teleport homer on one and dropped all my term squads in with that. Backed the thunderhawks off and owned with my 7" Blast. I ended up slaughtering the other guys Pharias with them. Blah blah blah my ally was imp guard so we had the earthshakers in the back with my land raiders "sniping". My melee happy sadly slaughtered the tyranids with ease, good rolling ftw.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:17 pm
Trainu212 Dont really feel like typing the entire thing out so ill put the slightly more important stuff in OK so the most recent army i played with was an appocalypse 10k pt battle took about 32 hours total to play, helps that me and one of the friends have basically memorized the 5th ed rules. 2v2 10k pts apeice by the way. HQ- 265 Marneus Calgar, Armor of Antilochus was the only upgrade i put on him. Retinue- 620 Full Honour Guard Squad, ripped my friends hq to shreds with marneus and the retinue. Had the chapter banner and all models had Relic Blades. HQ-885 Troops- 4 Tactical Squads, All 10 man squads each had a different weapon. 2 had lascannons and another had a plasma and the other had a missle launcher. Troop- 715 total Elite- Base of my army right here. 8-Full Assault Term Squads. 3 with storm shield and thunder hammer. 3200pts 4-Full Normal Term Squads 1 equipped with heavy flamers 2 with assault cannons and 1 with cyclones. flamer squad had all chainfists instead of powerfists. 1840 pts And the kicker was: Apocalypse Formation: Thunderhawks 3- All with the cannon upgrade 960pts apiece. I fielded two Land Raider's too =D i might have messed up on points cause i have the units i used but not the points so i had to do it from my book and a calculater so i dont have completely accurate we each went over the others list before we started. If you cant tell the way i played i dropped three of the assault squads in with my thunderhawks killed 3 full gaunt squads in the first charge (a crap ton? they got owned by the fact the couldnt do anything.) Brought my tactical squads close enough had a teleport homer on one and dropped all my term squads in with that. Backed the thunderhawks off and owned with my 7" Blast. I ended up slaughtering the other guys Pharias with them. Blah blah blah my ally was imp guard so we had the earthshakers in the back with my land raiders "sniping". My melee happy sadly slaughtered the tyranids with ease, good rolling ftw. that sounds..insane! Sounds like a great list with a great backup ally.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:41 pm
i will say it took a long time but the "enemies" didnt stand a chance because they kept trying to change their strategy but they didnt have units in the right place to do it. The earthshakers saved my life so many times.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:06 pm
bjs.09-00 HQ: Company Captain x1 - Stormbolter/lightning claws/Artificer armour Command Squad x5 - Champion, Banner, Apothecary, and a plasma pistol Elites: Terminator Squad x5 - All storm bolters + fists, sarge with power weapon Dreadnaught - Standard issue Troops: Tactical squad x10 - sarge with pasma pistol, Plasmagun, Multi-melta Tactical x10 - Sarge with plasma pistol, Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon Fast attack: Assault x5 - sarge powerfist and 1 flamer Heavy Support: Devatator x5 - sarge with plasma pistol, 1 heavy bolter, 1 missile, 2 Lascannons Vindicator x1 - Storm bolter + dozer Dedicated transport: total points: 1493 that look about good? (EDITED: removed the rhinos, replaced with a shooty squads having pistol sergeants. also put powerfist with assault squad.) Looks really good.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:13 pm
Heres a 500 point list that I am using in a big war me and several friends are having.
Our units also get Exp, and get better stuff.
HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Lord- Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Refractor Field, Melta Bombs and Scourging- 115 points.
Elites
Vindicare Assassin- 110
Troops
10 Storm Troopers- One Sergeant with Hell pistol and CCW, grenade launcher- 112
6 Gray Knights- 1 Justicar- 175
=512
So, what ya think?
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:02 pm
Jason Da Psycho Heres a 500 point list that I am using in a big war me and several friends are having. Our units also get Exp, and get better stuff. HQ Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Lord- Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Refractor Field, Melta Bombs and Scourging- 115 points. Elites Vindicare Assassin- 110 Troops 10 Storm Troopers- One Sergeant with Hell pistol and CCW, grenade launcher- 112 6 Gray Knights- 1 Justicar- 175 =512 So, what ya think? Im confused as to why you would need melta bombs in a 500 point game, unless you are playing teams in which case someone might sacrifice good troops for tanks and whatnot. I guess seeing as how you are over by 12, it is one thing that probably wouldnt hurt to cut
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:21 am
Oi! Gitface!
I've just recently been trying out a list for 750 pts games, and it's been working out pretty well so far, 2 wins against beakies, draw against fish'ead (luck by my side) and win against other orks.
The list for now consists of this:
HQ
Ork Warboss, Soopa' shot ammo (Kombi-Rokkit), power klaw, bosspole, 'eavy armour, cybork body
110 pts
Troops
3 Nobz, warbikes, stikkbombz
Nob 1: powerklaw, bosspole
Nob 2: kombi-skorcha
Nob 3: Big choppa
178 pts
20 Ork boyz, shootas, 2 big shootas, nob, bosspole, big choppa
160 pts
11 Ork boyz, nob, bosspole, powerklaw
Transport: Trukk, wrecking ball, armour plates
155 pts
10 Gretchin, 1 runtherd
40 pts
Fast Attack
Deffkopta, twinlinked rokkit
45 pts
Deffkopta, buzzsaw
60 pts
Total points: 748
The idea behind the list is pretty simple, to have alot of fun, but try to win at the same time of course. winkingOrk.gif
Since the tournament probably will have the usual scenarios in the 40k rulebook I wanted a force that can have a chance in all scenarios, in killpoints I'll just try to krump everything I see, for objective taking I wanted some fast elements (bikernobz and trukk) who can fight the enemy and blitz to the front and grab objectives if needed, or call for distraction while the shoota mob advances and trying to take ignored objectives with my grots, or put them with the objective in the scenario where you put the objective inside your deployment zone.
I first thought of getting a Mek for the force (and I'm still concidering replacing the warboss with one) who will be combat oriented, and perhaps a deffdread or some killa kans along with lobbas as support, but I can always spend the points on more boyz!
Thoughts about the list? Suggestions of ways to spend the rest of the 250 points? Critics? Spill the beans boyz (and galz)!
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