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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:30 am
No period is always a plus...unless of course you are TTC whee
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:04 am
badloki I was on Depo for over a year, and it didn't affect my fertility. I only got the side-effects of having no period xd and a bit of weight gain sad . That's what I was thinking - it doesn't affect your fertility, unless you're on it for a really long time, in which a woman might have trouble getting pregnant again after she goes off of it, until the hormones are out of her body. I've had Depo since January, and I still get one big period at the end of every 3 month shot. So I do and I don't have my period. xd I haven't gained weight, I don't think... I just like to eat a lot. sweatdrop Arianah I've heard something to that effect actually about Depo. But I'd have to hunt. I know more about the risks of breastfeeding on depo which is not in the pamphlet and OBGYNs swear isn't true, yet me and my collegues see if all the time. Woman comes in to our office with a 4 month old baby saying "I don't know why my supply has dropped so low" Sometimes the supply dip is irreversable since it takes so long for the hormones to clear the system. It is only after we do a full medical history that we find out they took the shot a week or two ago. But that is where I put my focus on Depo and all birth control methods. Men however insisting their women get on hormonal birth control so they don't have to restrain themselves drives me batty LOL. I say "No uterus, no say" but that's me he he he. I didn't know that Depo affected breastfeeding women like that. Thanks for the info Arianah! mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:09 am
Nikolita badloki I was on Depo for over a year, and it didn't affect my fertility. I only got the side-effects of having no period xd and a bit of weight gain sad . That's what I was thinking - it doesn't affect your fertility, unless you're on it for a really long time, in which a woman might have trouble getting pregnant again after she goes off of it, until the hormones are out of her body. I've had Depo since January, and I still get one big period at the end of every 3 month shot. So I do and I don't have my period. xd I haven't gained weight, I don't think... I just like to eat a lot. sweatdrop Arianah I've heard something to that effect actually about Depo. But I'd have to hunt. I know more about the risks of breastfeeding on depo which is not in the pamphlet and OBGYNs swear isn't true, yet me and my collegues see if all the time. Woman comes in to our office with a 4 month old baby saying "I don't know why my supply has dropped so low" Sometimes the supply dip is irreversable since it takes so long for the hormones to clear the system. It is only after we do a full medical history that we find out they took the shot a week or two ago. But that is where I put my focus on Depo and all birth control methods. Men however insisting their women get on hormonal birth control so they don't have to restrain themselves drives me batty LOL. I say "No uterus, no say" but that's me he he he. I didn't know that Depo affected breastfeeding women like that. Thanks for the info Arianah! mrgreen I do know after being on it for a long time it can take some women up to 6 months MAX to get their regular cycle back and it can effect fertility in that aspect. ALSO, you can be allergic to it, and if you get it in the shot and end up allergic you are stuck with it in your system for however long it takes to process out. But that's in rare RARE cases.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:19 am
Another thing about Depo.
the last time i ever got a Depo shot (back in January) I was made to sign a medical waiver thing stating that I shouldn't take Depo for more than 2 years consecutively as it will have some adverse affect on your bones.
Now, that was the first time I had EVER had to sign something to take Depo, so it must be a petty recent development.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:14 pm
Nopenname I do know after being on it for a long time it can take some women up to 6 months MAX to get their regular cycle back and it can effect fertility in that aspect. ALSO, you can be allergic to it, and if you get it in the shot and end up allergic you are stuck with it in your system for however long it takes to process out. But that's in rare RARE cases. That must be what I am thinking about. Thank you for correcting me Nopen. I'd heard longer, up to a year or two, but can't remember where I heard it from. So I'll take your word instead. 3nodding I'd also heard about the allergic reaction, but it's never happened to me. I get a pain in my arm where I get the needle if I'm really tense, and it will be sore for awhile, but I've never had an allergic reaction to it (thankfully). Badloki, I was never made to sign anything, but maybe that is a really recent development. I remembered my family's history of osteoporosis after I went on Depo, and told my doctor the next time I went for an appointment, but I was still allowed to be on it. I figure that since it's on both sides of my family, I'm almost definitely going to get it at some point in my life, so why not be on Depo for a little while at least? Because of that family history though, I probably won't be on Depo for more than 2 or 3 years, and then I'll switch to the patch or something. Thank you to the both of you for your information. heart
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:29 pm
Nikolita Badloki, I was never made to sign anything, but maybe that is a really recent development. I remembered my family's history of osteoporosis after I went on Depo, and told my doctor the next time I went for an appointment, but I was still allowed to be on it. I figure that since it's on both sides of my family, I'm almost definitely going to get it at some point in my life, so why not be on Depo for a little while at least? Because of that family history though, I probably won't be on Depo for more than 2 or 3 years, and then I'll switch to the patch or something. Thank you to the both of you for your information. heart And it also could've been a military doctor thing since we were still military health care patients at that time. I haven't taken any form of BC since then (as my hubby has been snipped), so I don't know whether civilian doctors are making women sign these releases or not. But with your history, it'd DEFINITELY be something to check into!
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:22 pm
I'd be questioning any doctor that didn't at least explain the risks to me. Though I think a waiver sort of ensures informed consent.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:20 pm
badloki Nikolita Badloki, I was never made to sign anything, but maybe that is a really recent development. I remembered my family's history of osteoporosis after I went on Depo, and told my doctor the next time I went for an appointment, but I was still allowed to be on it. I figure that since it's on both sides of my family, I'm almost definitely going to get it at some point in my life, so why not be on Depo for a little while at least? Because of that family history though, I probably won't be on Depo for more than 2 or 3 years, and then I'll switch to the patch or something. Thank you to the both of you for your information. heart And it also could've been a military doctor thing since we were still military health care patients at that time. I haven't taken any form of BC since then (as my hubby has been snipped), so I don't know whether civilian doctors are making women sign these releases or not. But with your history, it'd DEFINITELY be something to check into! I did talk to my doctor about it, and I think I was advised to take calcium supplements or something, which I doing occasionally because my mom got them for me without knowing I was on Depo. I haven't heard of anyone else on Depo (my friend did a couple shots of it) who has had to sign a waiver, but maybe you're right in that it's a military doctor thing. But my doctor does know my family history, and has never said that I shouldn't be on it, or anything like that. I've told her I understand the risks, and it's worked perfectly for me so far, so I'll probably stick with it for awhile. Edit: Sorry for spamming the sticky, I'll keep quiet now. whee
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:40 pm
MAN, I wish I'd thought of this thread before! (Warning: Rant follows!)
A couple weeks, through a Live Journal community (one of the more aggressive "Child-free" communities), one entry in particular actually had me feeling miserable.
It came down to this 'child-free' chic being bothered by a very pregnant (about ready to 'pop') customer who was wearing a belly top that didn't even come CLOSE to covering her tummy, didn't even TRY. And, the child-free person said she had to turn away because it almost made her puke... and continued on with, probably, a paragraph of ranting about it.
Now, just for me, I kinda find pregnant tummies to be absolutely beautiful at any stage. And, if the mother-to-be is comfortable showing off her tummy, I say she should go right ahead and be proud of herself! (I won't be dressing like that any more for my pregnancy, but that's 'cause it's fall, soon to be winter, and COLD here in Northrhine Westfalia, Germany! And while it was still warm enough, I did wear middriff-baring shirts, but I wasn't showing back then.)
And I find this complaint from the child-free chic to be very similar to the childish bitching about women who breastfeed in public.. "I KNOW what you're doing under that blanket, that is so sick it makes me feel like puking right here! Go to the restroom or, even better, GO HOME!"... that sort of bullshit.
But, the child-free community generally bothers me.. not because 'it's there', or because there are people who don't want children and consider themselves 'child-free' instead of 'childless', that's fine with me. I have a friend who's part of that thing -which was how I found the community in the first place- but rather the way the child-free talk about 'breeders' and 'moos', and children in general.
The general idea of the community seems to be a place where they can embrace their lifestyle and share their feelings and thoughts without having people yell at them.. But, then they visit pro-children places (online communities and so on) and throw a HUGE fit about the people there and how they speak out AGAINST abortion and freak out about how it hinders the 'choice' and blah, blah, blah.. But, they do the same thing in their communities. Not all, of course, but quite a few talk about how people shouldn't be allowed to have children, or shouldn't have them so close together.. or even promote ideas such as human-extinction (there is, I was horrified to learn, a Live Journal community explicitly FOR people who want the human race to extinct)..
The child-free seem to HATE being called names, yet they turn around and do the exact same thing. Bah!
Ah, well.. ranting made me feel better, though. And, I hope it didn't offend anyone. I'm fine with people being child-free and considering it a GOOD thing to not have children, that really doesn't bother me. I just hate how some of the Child-Free talk about people who are not. (They also act like everyone who had a child CHOSE to do so.. accidental pregnancies don't seem to ring any bells in most of the posts I've seen. I guess they assume that if it's accidental, unwanted/unplanned, that the person MUST have aborted, or else it WAS wanted/planned.)
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:15 pm
Gawd, some people have nothing better to do than b***h about people who have kids.
My brother-in-law's girlfriend was one of those girls who wore little tiny-tees and strappy shirts during pregnancy, and I thought on her thta it looked fine. I mean it wasn't hoochie clothes, just cute little shirts that just happened to show her belly a bit. So women who dress like that during pregnancy certainly don't bother me. If they're comfortable with their bodies, then more power to them!
As for the agressive "child-free" folks... well, from your example we can all see who is actually the more mature group out of "breeders" and "child-free" people, can't we? My parents group certainly doesn't parade around the internet demanding that people have 100 kids. So I don't see why those folks feel that they need to try and enforce their beliefs on others either.
But it's the same thing everytime you have two different factions on any given matter. Take abortion. You got your Pro-Choice and your Pro-Life people. There are certainly decent, nice, civil, mature poeple in each group, but then you get the nut-jobs who feel it's their mission in life to convert those who think differently. You also see this with religeon, politics, stem-cell research, cosmetic surgery, and a whole plethora of other "controversial" subjects. The sad reality is that no matter what you believe in, there is invariably gonna be someone else out there who MUST make you "see the light" and they won't stop till you do. I refer to these poeple as morons.
My advice, let them waste their time and energy bitching about a lost cause. Their little internet group won't ever stop people from reproducing, so let them type all the craptacular diatribe they'd like. Meanwhile, you get to sit back and have a theraputic laugh on them! ^_~
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:30 pm
*Nods* I do indeed find those types of people everywhere. And the Pro-Life/Pro-Choice debates are a prime example. You get idiots on both sides, and people who are very inteligent, but just can't help trying to make everyone 'see the light'.
And we won't even go into politics, that's an easily volatile subject. (Politics is one of my interests, so, I've been in a few debates-turned-flamewars -I usually leave at that point though..)
But, yeah, through most of the posts on the communities -I have only been there twice, actually- there are interesting articles, and some of the comments can be hilarious (either hilariously funny or hilariously moronic, depending)... but every now and then, something almost has me in tears (not this last time, fortunately)... so, I have generally tried to stay away from it... at least when I'm in a sensitive mood.
One thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who are most outspoken about their hatred of children, are around 20 or younger. The older members (30 and up), are nicer, in a way.. like, they don't want children, do not want to be bothered giving their reasons, and definitely get annoyed with idiot parents who don't actually take care of their children, but have admitted to liking some children (some babysit), don't freak out over little things usually, and are generally pretty kewl (even with their strong opinions).
I really don't mind if people have their opinions. I don't even mind if people hate kids.. just so long as they don't try to push their views on me. I won't tell them to have kids or that they 'should' like children, or whatever, and I expect them not to preach to me. (I do have one child-free friend back in America, as said, but she and I never talk about pregnancy.. we're more like acquaintances, actually, and she doesn't even know I'm pregnant- I would like to talk to her, but based on some of the things she's said about children/babies in the past, I think I'd better not try until I am in a more resilient mood.)
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:53 pm
Yeh, you really have to pick your battles.
I don't mind poeple having a "child-free" mindset, just don't push your views on me and we're cool.
But thankfully, most child-free poeple I have ran into have been the respectable kind (with the exception of some idiots I've see here on Gaia), so I don't really have too many bad experiences with them.... yet! xd
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:54 pm
Omigod, the young 20's and under crowd are so horrible in general when it comes to taking extremist positions on things. I was wondering how old these "child free" people were when you mentioned their calling pregnant women "moos."
Honestly, it's a trend in the human experience to find that people DEMAND respect for themselves but it is very rare to see them reciprocate, which is why I try so hard to do so. Because I want respect and I know I have to give it to get it. And you can find them anywhere. What pisses me off the most is that they never see that they are just as intolerant and unreasonable as "those other people" that they hate so much. Like it's any different to spout off about how ALL WOMEN need to have a job to feel fulfilled then it is to say that women belong in the home? Seriously.
People are just irrational and selfish in general and hate to have to actually think: it's easier to take a quick-snap position then to have to work through an issue and see the nuances in it and appreciate both sides of an argument.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:06 pm
Anybody else remember that person from that breastfeeding thread who called babies "crotch droplings", or something like that? People like that get on my nerves.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:09 pm
Nikolita Anybody else remember that person from that breastfeeding thread who called babies "crotch droplings", or something like that? People like that get on my nerves. Oh god! Yes, I remember her! I can't recall her name, but yes, people like her are annoying indeed.
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