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 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:24 pm
Qyp You should of bragged before loosing it... haha sorry. hopefully I'll make it back soon. ^__^ edit: this was the thirty third thousandth post in this thread! yay. sidenote: qyp grade my training in kumogakure =D
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:48 pm
Zent0s Qyp You should of bragged before loosing it... haha sorry. hopefully I'll make it back soon. ^__^ edit: this was the thirty third thousandth post in this thread! yay. sidenote: qyp grade my training in kumogakure =D Kay. I need to think of how to train ninjutsu... I have never done it... chakra control is pretty easy, same with craft... but ninjutsu confuses me... do I just fight with ninjutsu or what? O-o
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:51 pm
I think quack pulled a houdini.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:38 pm
Mastur Sage I think quack pulled a houdini.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:01 pm
We should do some recruiting and get new blood in here ninja
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:00 pm
Join requests are actually frequent... but only accepting ones that actually fill out the join request form...
Which is about 1-3 a month. Sad that a lot of them seem to not do anything once accepted.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:03 pm
Shisui = Tobi It's a proven fact pretty much now.
What I think: He casted an illusion to fake his daeth to the Uchiha and they went in to blame Itachi, Itachi knew he was innocent and he said he was not the killer like one would expect from someone who didn't do the crime. Because his body and dna wasn't found which was strange to Kabuto.
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/49041835/15
Now then, it's safe to assume that although they have sharingan it wasn't enough at all compared to a genjutsu casted by someone who was well renowned among the Uchiha clan, Shisui the body flicker.
Notice that Tobi at that point says: "Don't push your luck"
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:56 pm
No...
[spoilers]
1. Danzo used Shisui's arm and right eye. Confirmed by Ao.Kabuto just couldn't find Shisui's corpse... because Danzo probably destroyed it because he only needed the arm and right eye. Madara says "Don't push your lick" because he doesn't want Kabuto to have IZANAGI. Also, Danzo used Shisui's mind control technique on Mifune.
2. Itachi killed Shisui after discovering the secret Uchiha room. He knew he needed the Mangekyou to carry out the orders of Hiruzen, Danzo and elders.
3. Itachi never killed Sasuke during all their encounters. He could of done it when he used Susanoo. But what he really wanted was to seal away Orochimaru forever.
4. Spoilers have to be in white.
[/spoilers]
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:24 pm
Qyp No... [spoilers] 1. Danzo used Shisui's arm and right eye. Confirmed by Ao.Kabuto just couldn't find Shisui's corpse... because Danzo probably destroyed it because he only needed the arm and right eye. Madara says "Don't push your lick" because he doesn't want Kabuto to have IZANAGI. Also, Danzo used Shisui's mind control technique on Mifune.
2. Itachi killed Shisui after discovering the secret Uchiha room. He knew he needed the Mangekyou to carry out the orders of Hiruzen, Danzo and elders.
3. Itachi never killed Sasuke during all their encounters. He could of done it when he used Susanoo. But what he really wanted was to seal away Orochimaru forever.
4. Spoilers have to be in white.[/spoilers]
2) That's not true, I bet Itachi forged that thing. I mean Itachi knew Tobi, who has the mangekyo apparently so Itachi learned about it from him. I mean Itachi could have easily forged that crap without Sasuke noticing, I mean no one but TIachi said it was real. It's possible that shisui faked his death and then they HID the fact of his existance by using a genjutsu. That's why the body was never found. You are generally trusting the words of people who have lied to Sasuke millions of times. Those people are by far the most untrustworthy people in the series. I mean tobi wears a mask and Itachi lied many times until the very end to protect Sasuke, it's very likely he lied about that too and he didn't really have time to explain trivial things like that in his last words. It probally wasn't the first thing he wanted to tell his beloved younger brother he was seperated from.
3) That relates how?Flocka
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:48 pm
Hayate-senpai Qyp No... [spoilers] 1. Danzo used Shisui's arm and right eye. Confirmed by Ao.Kabuto just couldn't find Shisui's corpse... because Danzo probably destroyed it because he only needed the arm and right eye. Madara says "Don't push your lick" because he doesn't want Kabuto to have IZANAGI. Also, Danzo used Shisui's mind control technique on Mifune.
2. Itachi killed Shisui after discovering the secret Uchiha room. He knew he needed the Mangekyou to carry out the orders of Hiruzen, Danzo and elders.
3. Itachi never killed Sasuke during all their encounters. He could of done it when he used Susanoo. But what he really wanted was to seal away Orochimaru forever.
4. Spoilers have to be in white.[/spoilers]
2) That's not true, I bet Itachi forged that thing. I mean Itachi knew Tobi, who has the mangekyo apparently so Itachi learned about it from him. I mean Itachi could have easily forged that crap without Sasuke noticing, I mean no one but TIachi said it was real. It's possible that shisui faked his death and then they HID the fact of his existance by using a genjutsu. That's why the body was never found. You are generally trusting the words of people who have lied to Sasuke millions of times. Those people are by far the most untrustworthy people in the series. I mean tobi wears a mask and Itachi lied many times until the very end to protect Sasuke, it's very likely he lied about that too and he didn't really have time to explain trivial things like that in his last words. It probally wasn't the first thing he wanted to tell his beloved younger brother he was seperated from.
3) That relates how?Flocka
1. http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-459-page-14.html Bottom panels. "Right Arm and Eye". (I do read the manga on mangastream, but this site is one of the few that still has them ALL archived)
2. Can't seem to find where Madara says "Sharingan sees this part of the tablet, Mangekyou sees another part, and Rinnegan sees it all" but I KNOW he says it. I could prove it if I remembered where he said it... I think when Sasuke learns of what the elders of Konoha did... and how Itachi was just ordered to do the massacre...
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naka_Shrine
3. Itachi never intended to kill Sasuke. He killed the rest of the clan to stop war. So killing Shisui was for his brother and village. Brother > Best friend. Though it must of been a hard thing to do, if he awakened Mangekyou because of it.
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:49 pm
guys I'm bored emo winter festival event? ;D I could help design it if you guys are busy, and then pass it onto qyp for approval o__o
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:06 pm
I remember a snow ball fight once... basically a friendly version of shuriken wars...
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The Ghost of Xmas Awesome
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:07 pm
Spoilers: It's actually more than likely that Madara MUST have Kabuto believe that he is Uchiha Shisui, let the arrogant think they've everything figured out, seeing as right now Kabuto could turn Madara into his obedient slave any time he wanted. It has been all but established that Kabuto has Madara's Body, meaning...well, I'm sure you could use your imagination.
However their is something just revealed that might change that. and have put Madara at ease. Apparently the Soul resurrecting MUST be in the pure world, which Madara's soul assumedly is not. Or...is it to some degree? It would explain his waning strength... Perhaps the First actually DID kill Madara yes? Perhaps Madara has a similar technique to Orochimaru in the body borrowing department...and has to use Uchiha.
First Obito's when he initiated the Nine tailed fox incident, and then again transferred to Shishui for the Uchiha Massacre up through now.
I'm not really swayed either way right now. Kishimoto prides himself on his unconvetional plot twists (Even if most of us saw Itachi coming) if we ARE correct about our theories, we are correct in ways we didn't suspect.
Danzo DID use Shisui's arm, else wise why would it be referenced as having Shisui's DNA? The eye he was using was in his head, not the arm.
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:15 pm
None of you waht you say makes ANY sense. It doesn't relate at all. He apparently killed the friend, but the thing is what proof do you have that he actually killed the friend and that friend wasn't Tobi. Shisui = Tobi
Trust me, I know tons more than you when it comes to this stuff. Also sharingan aren't a save all against genjutsu, someone like Itachi or Sasuke could make other Uchiha confused to the point of mixing reality and illusions and battling whole battles with no one. Like Itachi tried versus Sasuke in the beginning. Now then, Shisui and Itachi were BOTH very exceptional uchiha. The body of shisui was apparently
Tobi WANTED Shisui's eye, seems kinda weird, there is something about Shisui. Like he somehow lost his eye to Danzo. I mean obviously Tobi didn't like the Uchiha be him Shisui or Madara, he wanted to kill them all. He said he was hurt and was a fraction of what he was in the past, well he could very well be someone saying he's Madara. It wouldn't be the first time someone lied about who they were.
The only proof that we have that he's Madara are Itachi and Tobi's own words. He doesn't even really resemble the Madara of the past in any way if you think about it. Not just his hair but his face. He also apparently has the eternal mangekyo if he's madara, which keeps him alive and that's why he's alive, well I have yet to see him even activate regular mangekyo. Itachi would also be loyal to Shisui, his second most precious person, as long as Sasuke isn't hurt as a result he would lie to just about anyone. It's his best friend, it's not a surprise that he would go along with Shisui's orders. You trust the main badguy's words WAY to much.
Waka Flocka Flame
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:26 pm
Qyp I remember a snow ball fight once... basically a friendly version of shuriken wars... yeah, last years. that was really good. I kinda liked that P: but idk if there are enough members in the guild active enough to do that. Wanna fish the thread out of the archives and re enact it?
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