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 Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:42 pm
DarklingGlory Unless you have already, read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and The Hagakure Isn't Hagakure about the Samurai code or something like that?
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:27 pm
TaeKyon Soul Fighters Leg Kicks Before anybody posts it: Martial J Quite right there man, and Jun Fan himself said that he was a martial artist first. Before ever really started acting, he was learning Wing Chun. Granted he never completed his training, but he is truly an amazing man. Some good legends I think, are Ganga Zumbi (famous ancient Capoeirista), Guan Yi, General Kim, and Admiral Yi Yu Sin (Two famous Korean generals who repelled the Japanese invaders). ....Admiral Yi SUN Sin. Whew sorry there! Yeah listen to Tae kyon on this one, SUN Shin. Sorry I forgot how his name went, but his skills and boats where no less legendary! Thanks for catching that TaeKyon. Anyhow, lest I get yet another name wrong, I beleive there was a man who did Muay Thai waaay back, and was captured by the Burmese. He was offered freedom if he could defeat one hundred of their Burmese fighters in succesion. Amazingly he did this, and known to this day for it. I think there's a legend like this, correct me if I'm wrong here. I still need a name, since I'm messing those up already.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:16 pm
Martial J TaeKyon Soul Fighters Leg Kicks Before anybody posts it: Martial J Quite right there man, and Jun Fan himself said that he was a martial artist first. Before ever really started acting, he was learning Wing Chun. Granted he never completed his training, but he is truly an amazing man. Some good legends I think, are Ganga Zumbi (famous ancient Capoeirista), Guan Yi, General Kim, and Admiral Yi Yu Sin (Two famous Korean generals who repelled the Japanese invaders). ....Admiral Yi SUN Sin. Whew sorry there! Yeah listen to Tae kyon on this one, SUN Shin. Sorry I forgot how his name went, but his skills and boats where no less legendary! Thanks for catching that TaeKyon. Anyhow, lest I get yet another name wrong, I beleive there was a man who did Muay Thai waaay back, and was captured by the Burmese. He was offered freedom if he could defeat one hundred of their Burmese fighters in succesion. Amazingly he did this, and known to this day for it. I think there's a legend like this, correct me if I'm wrong here. I still need a name, since I'm messing those up already. o o i think iv heard about this legend...but i can't remember exactly,wait i remember it was when i first heard about muay thai, but the name ...
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:22 pm
Soul Fighters Leg Kicks From "stories/myths": Musashi Miyamoto - existed, but I'm certain there were plenty of tall tales Wong Fei Hong - because of all the Kung Fu movies about him lol Boxing: Jack Dempsey - one of the first Americans to make boxing a science Ali - what else can I say? Muay Thai: Ramon Dekkers - Fierce fighting spirit. Excellent style that inspires the current world's best Wrestling: Kyle Maynard - Read his book "No Excuses" and see how much more motivated you will become. Maynard is a cheat. Dekkers sucks. Lack of mention for Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis is ******** pathetic.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:40 pm
Don't count out the famous Karateka Gichin Funakoshi. Keiji Maeda's a good samurai to look up to, along with Orotachi. The story of the latter was told to me by my Sabunim, and apparently Orotachi was his nickname (his real name eludes my memory) because of all the weapons he carried. I think it was seven katana of various lengths (wakazashi, katana, and Nodachi) as well as a Naginata. I haven't had the chance to find him on my own, but my sabunim was quite well read. Anyone heard of Orotachi?
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:10 am
Jae Sung DarklingGlory Unless you have already, read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and The Hagakure Isn't Hagakure about the Samurai code or something like that? Yes, The Way of the Samurai. "Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams." - Example of a quote from the Hagakure
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:40 am
I'll just say it not that i agree but fact is they used their arts in times of war and lived. Ueshiba, Kano, Mifune all amazing martial artists all super powerful all died of old age or torpedoed at sea. Greatest testament to a fighter/warrior is that they died of old age and trained many underlings well after wars were over.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:15 pm
DarklingGlory Jae Sung DarklingGlory Unless you have already, read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and The Hagakure Isn't Hagakure about the Samurai code or something like that? Yes, The Way of the Samurai. "Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams." - Example of a quote from the Hagakure The Hagakure is an interesting study to see just how twisted and perverse the Bushido concept really was. It's not the shining chivalrous philosophy as most naive martial artists believe it to be. It also should be taken with a grain of salt and read with some perspective. It's ironic but the Hakagura and many of the documents concerning Bushido were written in the Edo period, which in general was actually pretty peaceful period where the samurai power had dwindled to basically a name status. In fact most Samurais of that period never actually experienced war or battle or were retired at best. Basically the book was written (as well as many other bushido books) as a means to justify the existence of the samurai in a transitioning and modernizing world where the samurai was no longer necessary.
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:27 am
Absolutely 3nodding
The whole concept of not fearing death is ********. I'd argue that if you dont fear death, you are insane. Therefore the perfect samurai or "retainer" is insane...
And if I get some emo kid giving it "I'm so depressed I wouldn't mind dying" I'm gonna b***h slap them...
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:48 pm
DarklingGlory Absolutely 3nodding The whole concept of not fearing death is ********. I'd argue that if you dont fear death, you are insane. Therefore the perfect samurai or "retainer" is insane... And if I get some emo kid giving it "I'm so depressed I wouldn't mind dying" I'm gonna b***h slap them... Girls don't like me emo
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:28 pm
For Muay Thai, I really wouldn't mention Dekkers. He was good, but only big because he's the first foreigner to beat the number of Thai's he did. Still wasn't good enough to make Lumpinee Champ or Rajadamnern Champ.
If you are looking for Muay Thai Legends, one very famous one throughout Thailand, is the Tiger King. Here's a little excerpt.Quote: The most famous of these Muay Thai legends was the 'Tiger King', Phra Chao Sri Sanpetch VIII, the 29th King of Krung Sri Ayutthaya. During the reign of the Tiger King, Muay Thai saw one of its golden ages, not least because of the King's interest and patronage. Every soldier trained in the art. Being a good Muay Thai fighter was a way to military advancement.
Alot of Muay Thai's movements are named after the Tiger King. A few notable others, would be Nai Kanom Tom. He was a famous Thai boxer who was captured and taken prisoner by Burma during their warring period. In order to return to Thailand (then called Siam), the Burmese King told him if he can defeat the greatest og his Burmese boxers, he could then return. After defeating 10-12 boxers one after the other, the Burmese King impressed by his level of skill granted him freedom, his selection of 3 Burmese wives, and a fair amount of money (can't remember how much). Nai Kanom Tom then returned to Thailand, where he was celebrated and honored. Till this day, the Thai's still celebrate the day of his return as "National Muay Thai Day".
Another more modern legend in Muay Thai, is Apidej Sithirun. He was a Champion of 7 titles, and had lightening feet. The Thai's consider him their "Muhammed Ali". In a bout, he once broke a guy's arm simply from kicking. Apidej is still currently involved in Muay Thai, and teaches at the Fairtex camp in San Fransico CA.
As far as currently participating legends... they don't make the Thai fighters today like they used to. There are still some good fighters, but if you ask any Thai, they will most likely tell you that the Muay Thai of say "10 years" ago, was far superior to what we see today. But one Nuk Muay who is gaining alot of attention competing outside of Thailand is Buakaw ProPramuk. He currently competes in the K1 World Max, middleweight division. He's won the Max in '04 and '06, with a VERY arguable loss in the final for '05 (damn string pullin Yakuza). He is definitely worth the watch, as you can see for yourself!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m4ktZLmvLHI
Just some info! 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:03 am
Now that was a damn good fight to watch. Excellent kicking. Is that what you were telling Soul to do?
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