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 Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:34 am
OK - I just read this thread all the way through, and I wanted to post some thoughts.
There is a great book that will help with dream interpretation... as soon as I get the name back in my mind, I will post it.
One thing to remember is that many times, dreams are messages from our higher selves. The higher self is trying to communicate with us, but we are not always able to receive or understand those communications. The higher self has a much broader view of the universe, and we have only a very limited view, so the messages sent to us are not always in our own language. But remember, these are messages FROM you, TO you!!
If you are able to calm yourself and center, you should be able to discern the true meanings of these dreams. You actually DO know the meanings, somewhere deep inside, but too often we are accustomed to asking others, because we don't believe enough in ourselves and our own abilities!
If it were my dream I would wonder what is so important that my higher self (or inner self) must send the dream to me repeatedly? What would my higher self feel is so important it must SHOCK me to get my attention? How can I find a way to listen more closely? Especially if I had been receiving another dream repeatedly since I was a child...
I know this didn't give any defined answers, but I feel we ourselves are the only ones whoc an truly define our dreams. I hope it gave you some food for thought!
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:27 am
The book I was talking about ^^ above is
"Concious Dreaming"
By Robert Moss
Happy dream hunting to ya!
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:11 am
EgweneWIGU OK - I just read this thread all the way through, and I wanted to post some thoughts.
There is a great book that will help with dream interpretation... as soon as I get the name back in my mind, I will post it.
One thing to remember is that many times, dreams are messages from our higher selves. The higher self is trying to communicate with us, but we are not always able to receive or understand those communications. The higher self has a much broader view of the universe, and we have only a very limited view, so the messages sent to us are not always in our own language. But remember, these are messages FROM you, TO you!!
If you are able to calm yourself and center, you should be able to discern the true meanings of these dreams. You actually DO know the meanings, somewhere deep inside, but too often we are accustomed to asking others, because we don't believe enough in ourselves and our own abilities!
If it were my dream I would wonder what is so important that my higher self (or inner self) must send the dream to me repeatedly? What would my higher self feel is so important it must SHOCK me to get my attention? How can I find a way to listen more closely? Especially if I had been receiving another dream repeatedly since I was a child...
I know this didn't give any defined answers, but I feel we ourselves are the only ones whoc an truly define our dreams. I hope it gave you some food for thought! agreed 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:01 pm
Arkham Inmate Joker Those are very good points you brought up. Though that always seems the odd part because the higher I go, nearly the worse I seem to feel. I think that's why it's so scary to me is because it feels like I can't outrun whatever is making me be in that area. Maybe you are not supposed to and face your fear like the final challenge on some video game, or it could be that you need to have faith in yourself and keep going and do your best to reach the end before it does. Challenges are difficult, even hurtful. But by not facing them we don't go anywhere, learn or develop. And that prevents us from achieving our ultimate goal. Fear likes it when we don't challenge ourselves or become placid and overly comfortable. Means the game is over and it's the victor. By trying new things we learn, we grow, and we go to the next stage of the game, until we reach the end of the quest.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:20 pm
*Nods and bows to them* Thank you, all three of you. You bring up very helpful points that I am looking into. And thanks for the book reference EgweneWIGU, I will look into finding a copy of that to read. I hurt my knee pretty badly and so I'm on work leave for a few days. It'll give me time to look into dream stuff. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:28 pm
Might give you some time to also check out what you can do with crystals *Evil Grin* mrgreen
For your knee, see if you can get your hands on a small peice of sodalite, (blue and white flecked stone), jade, clear or rose Quartz, (or obsidian if involves a sprain/strain) heart
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:40 pm
*bows* Thank you..I'll look into that. My leg is doing much better actually, but it's still very sore. I'll look into getting one of the stones. I may have some rose quartz in my pouch actually.
I need to find something for stress as well. Because of stress in every part of me (body,mind,spirit) I'm becoming angry again at a lot of things, not meaning to. I haven't been able to meditate well due to the pain in my body. I need to find new methods of getting rid of these bad vibes in my body.
This anger..it feels like I could rip my skin off and under would be a large demon. Some unpleasant being that is ready to kill. I haven't felt like myself lately either. I've been wanting to lash out, I have bad thoughts, etc. Even the spirit boy that lives with me has been having trouble calming me. The only thing he's been able to do is surround me when I finally break down which is what usually happens after the fit of rage.
This all could be from my feeling of being alone a lot. I'm not too sure.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:49 am
I'm sorry. I wish I could be of more assistance
Loneliness is not the most pleasant thing to have to experience. And because of the people I support, I've seen some of the worst behaviours that can occure when people feel they are alone or don't have enough support and love. It truely is sad. I hope you feel better soon. heart
The stress explains the mention of obsidian a bit more. Usually it isn't considered a healing stone unless there is stress involved, and at the time I made my previous post I wasn't sure why I was to mention it. Glad I trusted my instincts biggrin . I find my obsidian sphere very relaxing. It is a cool stone to begin with, but because of its shape I can roll it in my hands which also can provide a soothing effect. The one I have is slightly smaller than my fist and cost me $75 (US dollars) and worth every penny.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:21 am
Some of my worst fears and anger has been because of my feelings neglect and loneliness. I'm one of those people that it takes me forever to find a good friend. It's not that I'm picky, people just find me strange. So I've seen and felt my share of the damage those feelings can do. I'll do my best to get in better moods. heart 3nodding
Stress has always been a big part of me sadly. Ever since I was young i felt it early and it's been there in my life. It wouldn't bother me if for the fact it makes me angry very easy. Like I've said before I really hate feeling these emotions because I know it hurts the people I care about. I either lash out or I withdraw from everyone.
I'll save some money up and look into buying an obsidian stone. *nodnod* At this point I'll do anything if it'll help me heal inside.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:47 pm
Aw that isn't nice. Stress, loneliness and neglect are a bad, bad combo. It makes it difficult to find the aproprate coping skills or resources necessary to help ease the frustration. No wonder you lash out, and your dreams are bruital. You have no place else to release your pent up feelings, and probably have been hurt by enough people that you can't trust too many to give you assistance. That really sucks.
Heheh as for the strange bit, well, wait until you get to know me a little better. My hubby, sometimes teases me by saying I "should be living in the group home with my clients and not working there." He thinks I'm "silly" xd I wonder why rofl
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:50 pm
It's a horrible combo. It makes me into something I'm not. I feel...well i feel very much like a monster because everything gets so pent up inside me, I don't know what to do when it get released. Actually, yes...I've been hurt a lot in my life by people I kept close to me. It's hard for me to trust people but yet again..I trust people too easy sometimes. It's odd really. I am trying to change my ways a bit and trying to relax my breath and mind before it gets bad.
Haha, my lover is the same way. She teases me about the spirits I see. Saying I play more with them than I do anything else at times. rofl She's a sweet girl most the time and I think once we're together (we're in a long distance relationship for the moment) I won't be as stressed because I've found the more contact I have with someone I know who cares about me...the stress fades to the back of my mind.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:06 pm
I have found in my own life that the emotion of anger serves me as a protector... by lashing out or withdrawing, I protect myself from _____ (fill in the blank). The deep seated rage I felt at times (and you seem also to be feeling) served as a protector - when I was younger, we moved alot, and I had a difficult time making friends. I was always the "new girl" and therefore easy prey. When I did make overtures to reach out to others, many times I was rejected. So eventually I stopped reaching out, and the anger built inside me, giving me reason to withdraw, and lash out when others tried to reach out to me. See, it protected me from the possibility of rejection. If i dislike all of you, and say or do hurtful things, then I have rejected YOU, not the other way around. Then I turned the anger on myself, because I was keeping myself from making friends and connections with other earthly spirits. It took until not too long ago for me to realize what I was doing. Instead of forcing myself to not feel anger, I turned inward, and THANKED the anger for protecting me for all those years. It was misguided, but only doing what it knew to do. That's when I ws finally able to let go of it... release it to the light!
So maybe now a good question for yourself is "What is the anger protecting me from" (not what is it KEEPING me from). It may be misguided, but it is there for a reason. Most emotions are here to either guide us or protect us. But they ARE just emotions... they don't define who we are unless we let them. It isn't an easy process, but I can tell you from personal experience, the rewards are extraordinary!
Also, I found that book online, probably amazon or barnes & noble... used versions are pretty cheap. Good Luck!!!
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:34 pm
HMm..interesting but that may only work for you really. See the anger and emotional distress I am having is hurting the people I've known for a while now. These are the ONLY people in my life. So the anger is not protecting me from anything, it's hurting me and others. This anger is keeping from the people I love from me. I'm the type of person that I HAVE to be around people. My body needs to feel the energy of other people. If that doesn't happen I become very depressed and dark on the inside.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:03 pm
I found a book you might be interested in
The Dance of Anger, by Harriet Lerner
I haven't had the chance to read through it completely, but it is supposed to explore anger issues, and go into a bit more exploration about why we get angry (power/control, protection/barriers, hide, fear, shame....lots more)
Hope it will be of some value to you
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:26 pm
Thank you so much, Thyna-sama. heart
When i get a good check where I have a big of money left over I'm going to go to Borders or Barns&Nobles and see if I can't pick some of these up.
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